Ikon Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago I mean in this particular case it wasn’t possible for us to get him. But Reijnders for example if he played in our league already he would cost twice as much. Yeah you can possibly argue that that he isn’t proven in this league, but I still reckon my point stands to a degree. Or Tonali for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED209 Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago Wonder what Francis Jeffers is up to these days? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Ikon said: Obviously, like I hinted towards in my post already. Yeah they can cost a bomb if we go for the players that already are at the highest level/more experienced and especially from within our league alone. Personally I do think there is technical players out there that aren’t in the mould of Cherki for example, and that wouldn’t cost a bomb. It’s not like players like Elanga to name one isn’t very expensive. I think you've picked two players there that are polar opposites, which is fair enough. I think most match going fans would want to watch a Cherki over an Elanga, week in week out, mainly because he's a better footballer but also because that's what fans want to see. However, Eddie Howe has to think about the team and someone like Cherki might just flat out refuse to do the things Eddie requires, where as Elanga might follow the plan to the letter. Personally, I'm like most on here in that I'd rather we went for someone better than Elanga. If we can find an Elanga with a sprinkle of magic, that's the sweet spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago One thing we also have to start thinking a bit more about is the selling to Saudi option. South American and African players are much more open to playing in that region, and so if they don't quite work out, it's much more likely you get your money back, or even make a profit funnily enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 6 minutes ago, STM said: It's worth baring in mind that we haven't signed him. I say that because perhaps the financials of it aren't worth it and therefore the club have moved away from him. But let's say we did sign him. The going rate for a good PL striker, who's 24, has room to grow and is looking like seeing out his contract is probably somewhere around 20/25m. In fact I'd argue that's a pretty good deal. We need someone who is useful and someone who our coaches can get their teeth stuck into. At 24, if I didn't work, we'd likely get the bulk of that fee back a couple of years down the line, just as we did with Chris Wood. Point is when is he actually going to play? It doesn’t make sense to spend £25m on a player who will only play when a single player is injured or when a game is already won. It’s not like he’s a kid with massive potential either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago (edited) 5 minutes ago, STM said: I think you've picked two players there that are polar opposites, which is fair enough. I think most match going fans would want to watch a Cherki over an Elanga, week in week out, mainly because he's a better footballer but also because that's what fans want to see. However, Eddie Howe has to think about the team and someone like Cherki might just flat out refuse to do the things Eddie requires, where as Elanga might follow the plan to the letter. Personally, I'm like most on here in that I'd rather we went for someone better than Elanga. If we can find an Elanga with a sprinkle of magic, that's the sweet spot. Yeah. What I’m saying is that I don’t want either, but a middle ground would be class even if a bit at the cost of “running”. Cherki for example is probably one of the best players in the world if you purely look at technical ability. It doesn’t have to be all black or white. I just think that we need better technical ability than a lot of our players have (even some of the more “expensive” buys we’ve made. To both improve us and give us more variety and tactic flexibility in some games. Edited 14 hours ago by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 2 minutes ago, KaKa said: One thing we also have to start thinking a bit more about is the selling to Saudi option. South American and African players are much more open to playing in that region, and so if they don't quite work out, it's much more likely you get your money back, or even make a profit funnily enough. I agree with this. I just don’t see the value in a fee for a backup striker alone. Alvarez/Marmoush types that can play with the star striker is the way to go. Either 10 or wide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago Just now, The College Dropout said: Point is when is he actually going to play? It doesn’t make sense to spend £25m on a player who will only play when a single player is injured or when a game is already won. It’s not like he’s a kid with massive potential either. Isak may play every game when fit but if we had someone fitter and more available I can see them getting minutes every fixture as Isak often tires after 60 mins and we should be aiming not to Flog him into injury. It's a hard balance though too much and your wasting the fee if Isak has no issues. Too little and the quality is so poor they only get on when the game is won and you dread them having to carry the team through an extended period. A hybrid player to mix up our formation and help Isak and plug gaps would be more ideal and something worth spending more of a limited budget on. Who that player is no clue though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinstonFC Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago Hugo Larsson CM - Perfectable interchangeable with Tonali, Bruno and Joe. Ivan Fresneda RB- Pretty share we were linked with him before but hes made for the PL. Oscar Bobb RW - Has had injury problems but that could help keep the price down. Not sure how much each would cost but would love them here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 45 minutes ago, r0cafella said: It's all coming up DCL How exciting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 11 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Point is when is he actually going to play? It doesn’t make sense to spend £25m on a player who will only play when a single player is injured or when a game is already won. It’s not like he’s a kid with massive potential either. Potentially 20/30 minutes of each game we have this season and given we might have 50 games, that's alot of game time. That's not discounting the idea that he could start cup games, or the idea that if he can prove his worth he could start some PL games when we have alot of fixtures. I don't entirely disagree with you mind. I'd probably prefer your idea of a versatile player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: How exciting If we secure top top players for RW and CB and fill over holes in the squad I'm ok with it. Even though our results match and out strip a lot of the sky 6 out spending power doesn't and this resource allocation becomes absolutely critical for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago Admittedly not seen him more than say 5 games or so, but one player that has impressed me every time is Ismael Saibari at PSV. Versatile midfielder and technical. Could be a Morgan Rodgers for us (a bit at least). Obviously can’t say too much about his character, but at least on the pitch he didn’t look lazy to me. Wouldn’t cost a bomb I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 22 minutes ago, STM said: Potentially 20/30 minutes of each game we have this season and given we might have 50 games, that's alot of game time. That's not discounting the idea that he could start cup games, or the idea that if he can prove his worth he could start some PL games when we have alot of fixtures. I don't entirely disagree with you mind. I'd probably prefer your idea of a versatile player. If the game is in the balance, he's not getting 20-30 minutes regularly. More like 5-10 as fresh legs if we are winning by a single goal. Maybe 15-20 if going 2 up becomes our chasing option. He only gets 20-30 when a game is handily won imo. Pre-Christmas there will only be a maximum of 2/3 League Cup games right? He could start a PL game against a promoted side but even then i'm not confident. Rather give Isak 45-70 minutes to win the game. He would be an ok understudy for the Isak injury though. But like would he have started Everton, knowing Isak was at 70% - I think Isak starts. 40 minutes ago, nufcjmc said: Isak may play every game when fit but if we had someone fitter and more available I can see them getting minutes every fixture as Isak often tires after 60 mins and we should be aiming not to Flog him into injury. It's a hard balance though too much and your wasting the fee if Isak has no issues. Too little and the quality is so poor they only get on when the game is won and you dread them having to carry the team through an extended period. A hybrid player to mix up our formation and help Isak and plug gaps would be more ideal and something worth spending more of a limited budget on. Who that player is no clue though. I agree with this. But I also think your teams best player - as a lone striker - is almost always going to get flogged. Less than Isak aye but he's getting flogged regardless. Salah - 4.5k minutes this season Kylian Mbappe - 4.6k Lamine Yamal - 4.5k We should work on his stamina - and it has gotten better this season when fully fit. But we should also adapt our tactical approach to be less intensive for him. And as you say, we need to lower the threshold of when he's subbed/benched by having better bench options. But.... he's still going to get flogged to some degree is my point I guess. It's the nature of being a star man. You can't then also flog your entire midfield 3 on top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago (edited) We could genuinely rotate Isak ands Osimhen though for a season. Then Osimhen can finally get his Saudi move. Even then I think we go 2 uptop, Isak drops a bit deeper. Edited 13 hours ago by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago (edited) The longer we wait for Yamal, the more difficult it's going to be to sign him. The club should've made a move the moment the window opened. Simple as. Edited 12 hours ago by TBG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago Can't wait for the 'lots more to follow' today which will be further shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 3 minutes ago, JP said: Can't wait for the 'lots more to follow' today which will be further shite. Lots more lies, hedges and leaps of faith by the Bald Fraud. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago If Howe didn't want him already, he'll want him now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous Nick Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago I think we should look at similar profile and price as Hall and Livramento were. 30-35m price tops, young homegrown with lot of talent. they are ok to sit on bench first 6-12-18 months, not make a fuss if they arent starters week in week out. Also lot of resale value later on as home grown status is an extra premium these days. either from current rich clubs where they wouldnt get much chance or lower half sides ready to step up. imo McAtee a good player, interest in him from top Bundesliga clubs, can see him going there for two years then 50-60m transfer back to PL in two years time. I hope at least 1-2 players can be found in this profile a the squad and the bench needs ore quality for the brutal schedule we are going to have now with the new format CL where we likely not finishing in top, but be good enough to be inn top24, meaning total of 10 extra games just to reach last 16. (last time it was 6 group games to reach it) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 26 minutes ago, Mazzy said: If Howe didn't want him already, he'll want him now. What's his best position Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago (edited) http://<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">🇩🇪💣 Victor Boniface | Newcastle United in mix for €50m signing after failed Saudi Arabia move<br><br>➡️ 2 German sources back <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NUFC?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc^tfw">#NUFC</a> interest<br>➡️ Ten Hag decides he wants to keep Schick instead<br>➡️ That €50m looks negotiable <a href="https://t.co/MlAlz7DYcT">https://t.co/MlAlz7DYcT</a></p>— Sport Witness (@Sport_Witness) <a href="https://twitter.com/Sport_Witness/status/1930929901055488111?ref_src=twsrc^tfw">June 6, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Worth clutching at straws over,m? Edited 12 hours ago by nufcjmc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, TBG said: The longer we wait for Yamal, the more difficult it's going to be to sign him. The club should've made a move the moment the window open. Simple as. Do we even want him? I prefer Doué. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Ben said: What's his best position Not sure anyone knows, that partly his issue. He's played mainly CAM but also CM (as an 8) and RW a bit. Maybe we'll see him at his best this summer. It's a very good England team with a lot of experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Ben said: What's his best position Probably at number 10, but he can play as a B2B or a RW. Certainly the right profile for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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