LFEE Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Just now, Max Cherry said: It's the journos fault for putting their name to it, Edwards knows what he's doing. Absolute Grade A prick. It doesn’t work like that. Journalist writes article and sends it in. Someone else decides on the headline and depending on contract stipulations will sub edit the article itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 You can imagine if Maxi does take the cash and head to Saudi, the price for Barnes would shoot up exponentially. Can't imagine Leicester happily accepting £30m if they see us land £50m for ASM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 I can’t see any clubs bidding for ASM tbh. May be Spurs after they sold Kane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Can see it to be honest. If we're after Barnes we need to make space in the squad, especially on that left hand side. We're not selling J7, Gordon, or Isak. ASM is the odd man out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Don't say nasty things about LFEE's special boy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Cherry Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Just now, LFEE said: It doesn’t work like that. Journalist writes article and sends it in. Someone else decides on the headline and depending on contract stipulations will sub edit the article itself. Well I think there's also something called professional integrity, which Edwards clearly has none of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Just now, TRon said: You can imagine if Maxi does take the cash and head to Saudi, the price for Barnes would shoot up exponentially. Can't imagine Leicester happily accepting £30m if they see us land £50m for ASM. That’s why I would expect ASM to stay this window or move very late in it after the Barnes deal if indeed this is all true and not a smokescreen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, LFEE said: “There is nothing to stop them also bidding for players on Newcastle’s books but the Premier League will be watching to ensure any transfer fee reflects fair market value. Given his age and the fact he still has three years left on his contract, the reported £50 million Al-Hilal paid for Portugal international Neves, who is the same age as Saint-Maximin, but only had one year left on his contract at Wolves, will be a useful benchmark. Newcastle are wrestling with FFP restrictions and multiple sources have informed Telegraph Sport that they will have to sell players to balance the books, if not this summer, then certainly in the next two transfer windows.” We all know we have to sell players at some point, but you can tell by that Mr. Edwards doesnt have a clue whats going on inside the club. Edited July 10, 2023 by nufc123 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Obviously we'll have to sell at some point but I just take everything in the media these days with a pinch of salt. They use the media to their benefit. This maxi story could just be a way for clubs to think we've got no money left unless we sell first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Max Cherry said: Well I think there's also something called professional integrity, which Edwards clearly has none of. It’s how the business works. LE or any other journalist just write the articles. Quite often they will see the headline the same time as us or not much prior. Doubt there’s many journalists with that sort of editorial power these days. Dying industry in many regards. Edited July 10, 2023 by LFEE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 1 minute ago, nufc123 said: We all know we have to sell players at some point, but you can tell by that Mr. edwards doesnt have a clue what going on inside the club. No one does, it's just educated guesswork. But some stories make more sense than others, this one definitely feels like it's based on real possibility if you believe that Howe really does rate Barnes, and I reckon he does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 £40m would be a brilliant price for ASM mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Cherry Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 1 minute ago, LFEE said: It’s how the business works. LE or any other journalist just write the articles. Quite often they will see the headline the same time as us or not much prior. Doubt there’s many journalists with that so of editorial power these days. Dying industry in many regards. No sympathy for him, he's a cock. End of. His articles are shite anyway, even without the headline. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Just now, Aiston said: £40m would be a brilliant price for ASM mind. We could legitimately get £50m if we sold to a Saudi club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 If the decision is to sell Maxi when his stock is low to fund signing Harvey Barnes then that’s straight up dumb as fuck. Some fans have developed a weird narrative around ASM for the last season and seem determine to see him as shit. The stats only problem is perfectly illustrated here because Barnes on paper is way better but doesn’t cause the opposition the same tactical alternation Maxi causes. It’s such a backwards step. Before people say trust Howe/Ashworth Liverpool were the best team in the world for a couple of season with fantastic recruitment then made some dumb signings. Mistakes can be made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Aiston said: £40m would be a brilliant price for ASM mind. 1 minute ago, TRon said: We could legitimately get £50m if we sold to a Saudi club. I agree with @TRon. As the article states Neves is same age and only 1yr on contract and went for £50m Zaha was offered a 3 year £100m wage deal. For a new league and let’s face it wether you like him or not potentially one of the most exciting players to watch £50-60m from Saudi should be the going rate and couldn’t be questioned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Cherry Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 I didn't believe Maxi was for sale yesterday, and I certainly don't believe it now that Baldwards or the Torygraph says so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSelecta Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Article is tosh, we’re water tight internally so no chance this is based on any genuine info from the club. Having said that he’s suggesting a fee north of £50m which we’d be crazy to turn down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Would be gutted if he goes. Article is bullshit though and just looking for clicks imo. Imagining Maxi in that league is funny though, he would absolutely destroy it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 25 minutes ago, TRon said: No one does, it's just educated guesswork. But some stories make more sense than others, this one definitely feels like it's based on real possibility if you believe that Howe really does rate Barnes, and I reckon he does. Yeah its just the writing. May sell this window, or the next, or the next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Scotty66 said: Would be gutted if he goes. Article is bullshit though and just looking for clicks imo. Imagining Maxi in that league is funny though, he would absolutely destroy it. Don’t see any reason fitness aside he couldn’t destroy the EPL this year also. If he doesn’t sell him with 2 years left on his contract and he’d still be attractive to the Saudis at 27 not that age seems to be even a consideration for them currently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Absolutely agree. That performance against Man City is what he's capable of. Truly breath taking. We just need to find a way to get him playing like that consistently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 1 minute ago, St1pe said: If the decision is to sell Maxi when his stock is low to fund signing Harvey Barnes then that’s straight up dumb as fuck. Some fans have developed a weird narrative around ASM for the last season and seem determine to see him as shit. The stats only problem is perfectly illustrated here because Barnes on paper is way better but doesn’t cause the opposition the same tactical alternation Maxi causes. It’s such a backwards step. Before people say trust Howe/Ashworth Liverpool were the best team in the world for a couple of season with fantastic recruitment then made some dumb signings. Mistakes can be made. This tactical alteration thing may have some truth in it, but it also feels way too overblown and quite convenient as there's not really a way to disprove it. He's not Messi and it doesn't matter how good he is if he's not first choice for the manager. Plus, it's not "dumb as fuck" when you do the math: Barnes in: £35m fee, 5 year deal - £80k / wk (double current reported wages) FFP: £7m/yr amortized fee + £4.16m/yr wages = £11.16m/yr Maxi out: £40m fee FFP: £40m - remaining £6.75m amortization (estimate based on extension) = £33.25m profit + £3.64m wages saved per year 2023/24 - £36.89m in/saved - £11.16m spent = £25.73m profit 2024/25 - £3.64m saved - £11.16m = £7.52m loss 2025/26 - £3.64m saved - £11.16m = £7.52m loss That's a £10.5m profit even looking out to the 25/26 three year period, but that £25m profit is even more important for this season's and next season's three year period given the spending we had to do over the last two years and the lack of salable assets / commercial revenue. We are going to have to sell players. We are going to have to sell players that are good and other clubs want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, Scotty66 said: Absolutely agree. That performance against Man City is what he's capable of. Truly breath taking. We just need to find a way to get him playing like that consistently. We've been saying this for years; it isn't going to happen. Even if he was always at his maximum, to replicate the Man City performance you need the opposition to play openly and with an onus on attacking; that doesn't happen at SJP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 44 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: Article says a whole lot of nothing. We "could sell Saint-Maximin this window". Cutting edge stuff. ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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