TheBrownBottle Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 I still don’t think that the injury crisis is ‘bad luck’. There’s a problem here. This isn’t happening elsewhere - our lot drop like flies, and either get immediately re-injured or short absences become long ones Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 What a disaster man our two main summer signings Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 How the hell has he suffered a setback??? Just like Willock - WTF is going on Added to this they bought Murphy back early - amateur hour Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Sounds eerily similar to the Botman case. Let’s get the medical department improved ffs. It's not the medical department. In Botman's case, he has been backwards and forwards to the Netherlands for specialist treatment / assessment, and the concensus from the specialists was to just continue to build his fitness back up and physio work. There is the potential he would need an operation IF the physio work isn't successful or he breaks down again (which would mean an 8 month layoff by the way). But it's nothing to do with an issue in our medical department. Same with Barnes... they attempt to avoid operations if at all possible. Specialists will always advise to build back to fitness with physio work before thinking about operations. The only one I think could be levelled at our medical team is the Willock re-occurence. Edited December 15, 2023 by Shadow Puppets Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 (edited) Paul Catterson is the club Dr, been there since the Ashley era He should cut Harvey's toe off, problem solved Edited December 15, 2023 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mondonewc Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: I still don’t think that the injury crisis is ‘bad luck’. There’s a problem here. This isn’t happening elsewhere - our lot drop like flies, and either get immediately re-injured or short absences become long ones https://www.premierinjuries.com/injury-table.php Never used it before so no idea but thought Chelsea and Man U were similar Edited December 15, 2023 by mondonewc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Shadow Puppets said: It's not the medical department. In Botman's case, he has been backwards and forwards to the Netherlands for specialist treatment / assessment, and the concensus from the specialists was to just continue to build his fitness back up and physio work. There is the potential he would need an operation IF the physio work isn't successful or he breaks down again (which would mean an 8 month layoff by the way). But it's nothing to do with an issue in our medical department. Same with Barnes... they attempt to avoid operations if at all possible. Specialists will always advise to build back to fitness with physio work before thinking about operations. If what you’re saying is accurate why are we the team who seems to be only facing these issues? Our injury reoccurrence rate is astonishing. maybe other clubs take a surgery first approach knowing a reoccurrence after physio treatment is an absolute disaster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginola14 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 January doesn't sound that bad, but somehow that's like another 6 games at least. Klopp was moaning about MaCallistar being out for over a week for same reason. December fixture is a bit of a joke for clubs trying to compete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 (edited) Literally every fucking player that gets injured has a further set back for us, what are our medical team doing to them? Edited December 15, 2023 by Aiston Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Stubbed his toe on his ps5 controller playing Fortnite apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Isak, Willock, Barnes have all had reoccurrences, have I missed anyone ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Ahh ffs man! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Isak, Willock, Barnes have all had reoccurrences, have I missed anyone ? Likely Botman too but given the lack of information the club gives on injuries it’s hard to say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Isak, Willock, Barnes have all had reoccurrences, have I missed anyone ? Murphy, bit different but needs to be counted too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobS Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 specifically this and Botman situation seem very strange and doesnt feel like normal injury stories you hear in football. Definitely need a massive investigation into what can be done to limit injuries and improve training/recovery methods to prevent this happening again in future seasons, and invest correctly to rectify. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: Isak, Willock, Barnes have all had reoccurrences, have I missed anyone ? How long was Targett back for ? Two games ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mondonewc Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 (edited) 32 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: Howe saying he might still need an operation as well. This is what he actually said "It's the same now with Harvey Barnes, he won't need an operation but we are waiting to see if he comes back or not." Nevermind He also said "It’s a setback to a degree. Where he’s felt pain in his foot again. Hopefully it’s not a permanent setback and he won’t need an operation. There’s still a chance that might happen.” Apologies @ponsaelius Edited December 15, 2023 by mondonewc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 minute ago, gbandit said: Murphy, bit different but needs to be counted too Yep. At least five players in four months. That’s not a great track record. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Just now, r0cafella said: If what you’re saying is accurate why are we the team who seems to be only facing these issues? Our injury reoccurrence rate is astonishing. maybe other clubs take a surgery first approach knowing a reoccurrence after physio treatment is an absolute disaster. It is absolutely 100% true. The source on the Botman stuff is the horses mouth. And the source for the physio info is my brother-in-law, who is a sports physio. Is our injury re-occurence rate really astonishing? Willock this season? Isak last season? Other than that, what exactly has re-occured? Murphy's shoulder doesn't count because that is and always has been a major possibility with shoulder dislocations. You hope it won't happen again but there's every chance it will. It's a ballache of an operation to recover from so you try to avoid it. Some players have had setbacks, yes, but that is part and parcel of football injuries... always has been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Just now, Shadow Puppets said: It is absolutely 100% true. The source on the Botman stuff is the horses mouth. And the source for the physio info is my brother-in-law, who is a sports physio. Is our injury re-occurence rate really astonishing? Willock this season? Isak last season? Other than that, what exactly has re-occured? Murphy's shoulder doesn't count because that is and always has been a major possibility with shoulder dislocations. You hope it won't happen again but there's every chance it will. It's a ballache of an operation to recover from so you try to avoid it. Some players have had setbacks, yes, but that is part and parcel of football injuries... always has been. They’ve been listed already in the thread, we have no players and those players we get back are injured again shortly after as witnessed with several players. so the question is why is this happening and what can be done to address it in the future? We simply can’t afford such situations to occur. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Isak, Willock, Barnes have all had reoccurrences, have I missed anyone ? Barnes' injury hasn't reoccured. A setback isn't a reoccurrence. A setback is... it's taking longer than we first thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Just now, r0cafella said: They’ve been listed already in the thread, we have no players and those players we get back are injured again shortly after as witnessed with several players. so the question is why is this happening and what can be done to address it in the future? We simply can’t afford such situations to occur. Isak and Willock. That's all right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Shadow Puppets said: Isak and Willock. That's all right? Targett got injured and right away, Botman touched some grass and has seemingly made it worst same with Barnes. We are clearly doing something wrong on this area and we have to address it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: How long was Targett back for ? Two games ? No, he was back for ages, and his injury is not related to the first one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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