TRon Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 52 minutes ago, Gawalls said: At 27 you could argue Barnes is just hitting his peak now - it's all well and good turning players over to bring younger in as they have a higher ceiling but there has to be a balance, in order to maximise your success you need to enjoy some of these players at their peak as well. There is some hard decisions to be made but i'll be very surprised if selling Barnes happens - for what I can gather there will be no money to be made on him due to what we're srill surely paying off for him with Amortisation and all that. Well, even your amortisation calculation shows where the priority lies. Let me be clear: I DON"T want to sell Barnes for exactly the reasons you said. I already said this in an earlier post when I asked why would any fan want to sell a player of his calibre? But why did we have to sell Anderson and Minteh? We can't just pretend this won't come up again, PSR is real. Either we sell and replace with appreciating assets or we get progressively worse season on season. What is the alternative? I hope you aren't going to say sell Almiron for £25m instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 16 minutes ago, TRon said: Well, even your amortisation calculation shows where the priority lies. Let me be clear: I DON"T want to sell Barnes for exactly the reasons you said. I already said this in an earlier post when I asked why would any fan want to sell a player of his calibre? But why did we have to sell Anderson and Minteh? We can't just pretend this won't come up again, PSR is real. Either we sell and replace with appreciating assets or we get progressively worse season on season. What is the alternative? I hope you aren't going to say sell Almiron for £25m instead. To help cover the ~£140m we’d spent the previous summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, Gawalls said: You can't see any scenario he stays? The lad signed for his home club at nine years old then played for them thick and thin until we came knocking. We're only his second club (not including loans) so he's never proven to be a player to kick a fuss and leave, when he came to us he said the opportuntity was too big to turn down, he's proven he has confidence in his own abilities and can do what's asked of him when needed, it's being also proven that we were short on numbers last season with a few injuries we struglgle, Howe has shown he rates him and he has barely been here five minutes - yet you can't see any scenario where he might want to stay and fight for his place? I personally can I can't see a scenario where he wants to stay, outside of us getting CL footy and being able to give him games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) 27 minutes ago, STM said: I can't see a scenario where he wants to stay, outside of us getting CL footy and being able to give him games. all i'm trying ito say is both you and I are making assumptions on his personality and his wants - none of us know what drives him, what would make him want to stay or want to leave. Look we're currently doing well, having a good month and are 5th in the table yet in the last few hours i've opne to the Isak thread where it's full of people saying "I hope he doesn't leave", the Dubravka thread is full of people saying "oh crap - why are we selling now, what wiill we do", the Almiron thread people saying "he's unsellable, we're stuck with his wages" (I agree with this one for what it's worth) and this thread people saying "He's going to want to leave isn't he? ". I just find this place gets to me sometimes. Edited January 3 by Gawalls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 2 minutes ago, Gawalls said: all i'm trying ito say is both you and I are making assumptions on his personality and his wants - none of us know what drives him, what would make him want to stay or want to leave. Look we're currently doing well, having a good month and are 5th in the table yet in the last few hours i've opne to the Isak thread where it's full of people saying "I hope he doesn't leave", the Dubravka thread is full of people saying "oh crap - why are we selling now, what wiill we do", the Almiron thread people saying "he's unsellable, we're stuck with his wages" (I agree with this one for what it's worth) and this thread people saying "He's going to want to leave isn't he? ". I just find this place gets to me sometimes. PTAS post traumatic Ashley syndrome Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 48 minutes ago, SteV said: To help cover the ~£140m we’d spent the previous summer. Which again points to how PSR is always there in the background and we have to constantly re-evaluate each player's value year on year. The only time that doesn't become a factor is when we are already at the top or teams will pay us huge money for players we don't want. Neither of which is true at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Not sure what was up with him but he looked like he was running in treacle to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 hour ago, r0cafella said: Not sure what was up with him but he looked like he was running in treacle to me. Hard for him to make much impression in 10/15 minutes each game but next week he should be getting a good run out in the cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 He's like the left sided version of Almiron, just with a better shot if he gets given a clear line to goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 He's hardly enhancing his reputation is he, the locker's looking fairly bare Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 minutes ago, Holloway said: He's hardly enhancing his reputation is he, the locker's looking fairly bare He has 11 opponents camped in his way. He isn't Messi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Will always score a goal here and there because his finishing is so so good. I maintain my view, I still don’t get it why we signed him, and I’ve said it since day one. For quite a few reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 He's not the guy for games like this. He's not going to get the space to work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Just now, David Edgar said: He has 11 opponents camped in his way. He isn't Messi. Not really.Apart from his finishing I'm not sold on him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 4 minutes ago, TRon said: He's like the left sided version of Almiron, just with a better shot if he gets given a clear line to goal. Haddaway man Barnes has talent just looking rusty is all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) I think we’ll all become very grateful of him if/when he gets a consistent run of starts due to injury He was an opportunistic signing but I feel like there is more to come from him, however today isn’t his kind of game Edited January 12 by Nine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 minutes ago, David Edgar said: He has 11 opponents camped in his way. He isn't Messi. Isn't that the point of a wide player, to get round the packed defence? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Just now, TRon said: Isn't that the point of a wide player, to get round the packed defence? He's not one of those kind of guys. He's a finisher. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Just now, Nine said: I think we’ll all become very grateful of him if/when he gets a consistent run of starts due to injury He was an opportunistic signing but I feel like there is more to come from him I don’t think he’s good enough in general play to play regularly for a top side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Ikon said: I don’t think he’s good enough in general play to play regularly for a top side. He’s definitely suited to a more transitional team than we are now Edited January 12 by Nine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Injured or hooked at half time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 If he's been hooked at half time against a league two side it's a really bad look for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1tche Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 If he's been hooked, that could be the end of him here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Tbh Eddie probably mad he was being a ballhog 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Almost definitely a pre planned sub Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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