Shearergol Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Why is everyone so quick to put a negative slant on everything but ignore anything positive? Hard work on here these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: Why is everyone so quick to put a negative slant on everything but ignore anything positive? Hard work on here these days. I think he’ll stay. Man Utd won’t pay enough. It’s just nonsense saying he’ll stay cos he’s a fan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Him supporting the club has to be a positive right? I still wouldn't be shocked to see him sign a new contract this summer, but then I did say the same about Isak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Just now, The Prophet said: Him supporting the club has to be a positive right? I still wouldn't be shocked to see him sign a new contract this summer, but then I did say the same about Isak. Massive positive if he does aye, look how quick Mileys 6 year deal got done for example. I also would imagine Anderson would walk back and play for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 20 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Absolutely - I’d rather keep Hall of course, and I doubt anyone will meet his asking price this summer. But I don’t understand the whole ‘we can’t sell X player’ patter - they’re all available if the price is right, this is absolutely the norm at every club in world football. I understand and agree with your sentiment generally but I don't think we could replace him and we haven't seen the best of him, far from it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 5 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Massive positive if he does aye, look how quick Mileys 6 year deal got done for example. I also would imagine Anderson would walk back and play for us. you think Anderson chooses Newcastle over his proposed move to Man City if the finances were equal? I don’t believe that for a minute. This isn’t being negative btw I think we as fans put far more stock on that stuff than players themselves. They are more career orientated. He’ll want league titles. Hall will be the same Edited 5 hours ago by gdm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 minute ago, gdm said: you think Anderson chooses Newcastle over his proposed move to Man City if the finances were equal? I don’t believe that for a minute. This isn’t being negative btw I think we as fans put far more stock on that stuff as players themselves. They are more career orientated. I understand your point but let's not forget big Al did precisely this. I know it's a cliche but we are a special club any anyone who has a relationship with the club gets this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Just now, r0cafella said: I understand your point but let's not forget big Al did precisely this. I know it's a cliche but we are a special club any anyone who has a relationship with the club gets this. He did but Newcastle were one of best teams in the country when he came back. He knew he’d challenge for at least a title. We are miles off that now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 11 minutes ago, r0cafella said: I understand and agree with your sentiment generally but I don't think we could replace him and we haven't seen the best of him, far from it. Don’t get me wrong, I’d hate to see him go, and I don’t think he will. Just think it’s wishful thinking and against all the evidence of how football works to think that it won’t happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Hall was brought up during the Pardew days and was at the Chelsea academy from the age of 8 so I've never had any great expectations of his fandom. I seem to recall an interview with him where he had to name some NUFC legends (like a 5-a-side team or something like that) and he didn't have much of a clue. No idea if he'll leave but if a cartel club offers to double his wages then we've got a problem. Frankly he ought to walk to the nearest club who will pay him more than buttons for having to play at right-back once and for having to breathe the same air as Andy Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 10 minutes ago, r0cafella said: I understand your point but let's not forget big Al did precisely this. I know it's a cliche but we are a special club any anyone who has a relationship with the club gets this. I think Shearer’s signing had as much to do with us offering more money and Jack Walker asking for more from Man Utd than it did sentiment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 3 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Hall was brought up during the Pardew days and was at the Chelsea academy from the age of 8 so I've never had any great expectations of his fandom. I seem to recall an interview with him where he had to name some NUFC legends (like a 5-a-side team or something like that) and he didn't have much of a clue. No idea if he'll leave but if a cartel club offers to double his wages then we've got a problem. Frankly he ought to walk to the nearest club who will pay him more than buttons for having to play at right-back once and for having to breathe the same air as Andy Howe. The reason I was unsure was I saw him interviewed before I think the Barcelona knock out game and the questioning and specifically his answer was all about his dad being buzzing and never once said about him being a fan Edited 5 hours ago by gdm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Hall was brought up during the Pardew days and was at the Chelsea academy from the age of 8 so I've never had any great expectations of his fandom. I seem to recall an interview with him where he had to name some NUFC legends (like a 5-a-side team or something like that) and he didn't have much of a clue. No idea if he'll leave but if a cartel club offers to double his wages then we've got a problem. Frankly he ought to walk to the nearest club who will pay him more than buttons for having to play at right-back once and for having to breathe the same air as Andy Howe. TBG says hi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 14 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: I think Shearer’s signing had as much to do with us offering more money and Jack Walker asking for more from Man Utd than it did sentiment. I don't think you can totally take sentiment out of it completely though. Was away from Newcastle when Owen signed and it was a clear as day he didn't want to be here. I don't know what the feeling was here when he signed, but from a distance it always felt like a disaster. It wasn't quite that, but not far off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Just now, Abacus said: I don't think you can totally take sentiment out of it completely though. Was away from Newcastle when Owen signed and it was a clear as day he didn't want to be here. I don't know what the feeling was here when he signed, but from a distance it always felt like a disaster. It wasn't quite that, but not far off. I agree - it definitely helps, but I think it’s more a ‘cherry on top’ rather than the reason to sign. Owen’s signing felt odd even at the time, I agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Would lose quite a bit of faith in our owners if we sold Hall as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 22 minutes ago, Shearergol said: TBG says hi I resent the notion that TBG has monopolised sarcy cuntery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Our best players will invariably want to move on to compete at the top table. It's arrogance to suggest that some of the best players we have should just be happy to play for Newcastle. We should be grateful for as long as they choose to remain with us. I would bet a big reason many of our good prospects join to begin with is knowing that playing for us is a pathway to joining these other clubs. Our owners may not have a reasonable choice in the matter, if a club is interested and most importantly, the player wants to talk to that club, then the decision is not really there for them to make. All we can do is make sure we get a deal that works for us and we recruit well to replace, and to ensure these players are tied down to long-term contracts. That's the nature of football nowadays. We're not yet a club that gets players like Ekitike, Sesko over the line when other big teams come knocking. We are a middling club and this is our unfortunate reality - enjoy our best players while we have them and don't hold it against them or the club if they move to bigger clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 19 minutes ago, The Butcher said: Would lose quite a bit of faith in our owners if we sold Hall as well. What if it was for a ridiculously inflated price? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, Minhosa said: We definitely left money on the table in the Gordon deal imho but I think it suits everyone to get it done asap and to do it in the 'right' way after last summer. I cannot fathom us wanting to do a deal for Hall irrespective of the figures involved but we'll soon see what the intentions are. I'm sure we'd rather keep Hall tbh, we would only sell if we were getting money too good to turn down (doubtful) or Hall wants the move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyUtd Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 17 minutes ago, Yorkie said: I resent the notion that TBG has monopolised sarcy cuntery. Not monopolised but definitely fine-tuned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 30 minutes ago, SteV said: What if it was for a ridiculously inflated price? Don't really care. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 54 minutes ago, The Butcher said: Don't really care. So if Man Utd offered £150m and we took it, you’d have lost faith in the ownership? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, SteV said: So if Man Utd offered £150m and we took it, you’d have lost faith in the ownership? It's his choice, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Been said a few times; we need to be good sellers. If he goes we will see in time if it’s good or bad. If we start the season with Big Dan at LB having lost out to Chelsea for Hall’s replacement safe to say it’s bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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