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1 minute ago, Shearergol said:

Why is everyone so quick to put a negative slant on everything but ignore anything positive?

 

Hard work on here these days.

I think he’ll stay. Man Utd won’t pay enough. It’s just nonsense saying he’ll stay cos he’s a fan 

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Just now, The Prophet said:

Him supporting the club has to be a positive right? I still wouldn't be shocked to see him sign a new contract this summer, but then I did say the same about Isak. 

Massive positive if he does aye, look how quick Mileys 6 year deal got done for example. I also would imagine Anderson would walk back and play for us. 

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20 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Absolutely - I’d rather keep Hall of course, and I doubt anyone will meet his asking price this summer.  But I don’t understand the whole ‘we can’t sell X player’ patter - they’re all available if the price is right, this is absolutely the norm at every club in world football. 

I understand and agree with your sentiment generally but I don't think we could replace him and we haven't seen the best of him, far from it. 

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5 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Massive positive if he does aye, look how quick Mileys 6 year deal got done for example. I also would imagine Anderson would walk back and play for us. 


you think Anderson chooses Newcastle over his proposed move to Man City if the finances were equal? I don’t believe that for a minute. 
 

This isn’t being negative btw I think we as fans put far more stock on that stuff than players themselves. They are more career orientated. He’ll want league titles. Hall will be the same 

 

 

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1 minute ago, gdm said:


you think Anderson chooses Newcastle over his proposed move to Man City if the finances were equal? I don’t believe that for a minute. 
 

This isn’t being negative btw I think we as fans put far more stock on that stuff as players themselves. They are more career orientated. 

I understand your point but let's not forget big Al did precisely this. 

 

I know it's a cliche but we are a special club any anyone who has a relationship with the club gets this. 

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Just now, r0cafella said:

I understand your point but let's not forget big Al did precisely this. 

 

I know it's a cliche but we are a special club any anyone who has a relationship with the club gets this. 

He did but Newcastle were one of best teams in the country when he came back. He knew he’d challenge for at least a title. We are miles off that now  

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11 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

I understand and agree with your sentiment generally but I don't think we could replace him and we haven't seen the best of him, far from it. 

Don’t get me wrong, I’d hate to see him go, and I don’t think he will.  Just think it’s wishful thinking and against all the evidence of how football works to think that it won’t happen. 

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Hall was brought up during the Pardew days and was at the Chelsea academy from the age of 8 so I've never had any great expectations of his fandom. I seem to recall an interview with him where he had to name some NUFC legends (like a 5-a-side team or something like that) and he didn't have much of a clue. 

 

No idea if he'll leave but if a cartel club offers to double his wages then we've got a problem.

 

Frankly he ought to walk to the nearest club who will pay him more than buttons for having to play at right-back once and for having to breathe the same air as Andy Howe.

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10 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

I understand your point but let's not forget big Al did precisely this. 

 

I know it's a cliche but we are a special club any anyone who has a relationship with the club gets this. 

I think Shearer’s signing had as much to do with us offering more money and Jack Walker asking for more from Man Utd than it did sentiment.  

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3 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

Hall was brought up during the Pardew days and was at the Chelsea academy from the age of 8 so I've never had any great expectations of his fandom. I seem to recall an interview with him where he had to name some NUFC legends (like a 5-a-side team or something like that) and he didn't have much of a clue. 

 

No idea if he'll leave but if a cartel club offers to double his wages then we've got a problem.

 

Frankly he ought to walk to the nearest club who will pay him more than buttons for having to play at right-back once and for having to breathe the same air as Andy Howe.


The reason I was unsure was I saw him interviewed before I think the Barcelona knock out game and the questioning and specifically his answer was all about his dad being buzzing and never once said about him being a fan 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

Hall was brought up during the Pardew days and was at the Chelsea academy from the age of 8 so I've never had any great expectations of his fandom. I seem to recall an interview with him where he had to name some NUFC legends (like a 5-a-side team or something like that) and he didn't have much of a clue. 

 

No idea if he'll leave but if a cartel club offers to double his wages then we've got a problem.

 

Frankly he ought to walk to the nearest club who will pay him more than buttons for having to play at right-back once and for having to breathe the same air as Andy Howe.

 

TBG says hi

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14 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I think Shearer’s signing had as much to do with us offering more money and Jack Walker asking for more from Man Utd than it did sentiment.  

 

I don't think you can totally take sentiment out of it completely though. Was away from Newcastle when Owen signed and it was a clear as day he didn't want to be here.

 

I don't know what the feeling was here when he signed, but from a distance it always felt like a disaster. It wasn't quite that, but not far off.

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Just now, Abacus said:

 

I don't think you can totally take sentiment out of it completely though. Was away from Newcastle when Owen signed and it was a clear as day he didn't want to be here.

 

I don't know what the feeling was here when he signed, but from a distance it always felt like a disaster. It wasn't quite that, but not far off.

I agree - it definitely helps, but I think it’s more a ‘cherry on top’ rather than the reason to sign. 
 

Owen’s signing felt odd even at the time, I agree.  

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Our best players will invariably want to move on to compete at the top table. It's arrogance to suggest that some of the best players we have should just be happy to play for Newcastle. We should be grateful for as long as they choose to remain with us. I would bet a big reason many of our good prospects join to begin with is knowing that playing for us is a pathway to joining these other clubs.

 

Our owners may not have a reasonable choice in the matter, if a club is interested and most importantly, the player wants to talk to that club, then the decision is not really there for them to make.

 

All we can do is make sure we get a deal that works for us and we recruit well to replace, and to ensure these players are tied down to long-term contracts. That's the nature of football nowadays.

 

We're not yet a club that gets players like Ekitike, Sesko over the line when other big teams come knocking. We are a middling club and this is our unfortunate reality - enjoy our best players while we have them and don't hold it against them or the club if they move to bigger clubs.

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19 minutes ago, The Butcher said:

Would lose quite a bit of faith in our owners if we sold Hall as well.

What if it was for a ridiculously inflated price?

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1 hour ago, Minhosa said:

We definitely left money on the table in the Gordon deal imho but I think it suits everyone to get it done asap and to do it in the 'right' way after last summer.

 

I cannot fathom us wanting to do a deal for Hall irrespective of the figures involved but we'll soon see what the intentions are.

 

 

I'm sure we'd rather keep Hall tbh, we would only sell if we were getting money too good to turn down (doubtful) or Hall wants the move. 

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Been said a few times; we need to be good sellers. If he goes we will see in time if it’s good or bad. If we start the season with Big Dan at LB having lost out to Chelsea for Hall’s replacement safe to say it’s bad.

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