Matt1892 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 Also, we’re Wilson, Barnes and Anderson that poor against Brentford or has fatigued kicked in already? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Matt1892 said: So you spend £30 million plus on a young right back yet only give him the chance to play when either Trippier is in poor form or is struggling with fatigue?? Well you’re not going to drop Trippier when he’s playing well are you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: Also, we’re Wilson, Barnes and Anderson that poor against Brentford or has fatigued kicked in already? Anderson and Barnes started because Tonali and Almiron picked up knocks on international duty. Wilson started because Isak has been playing with a troubled knee and because he hasn’t scored since Villa. what are you not grasping here? Edited September 24, 2023 by MrRaspberryJam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Well you’re not going to drop Trippier when he’s playing well are you? Rest. Not drop. And yes, that's exactly what you do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWMag Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 10 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: change them when the players performances drop off or they show signs of fatigue. Not when they’ve just done a sterling job of keeping Milan out at the San Siro. pretty standard stuff. Why would you wait until they are fatigued to rest them? Surely resting them is to prevent fatigue and to ensure they are constantly fresh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppe Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 1 hour ago, STM said: You start Livramento ahead of Trippier, in a game where most think we need 3 points? If Trippier is fit to play, why not just play your best right back? Same goes for Hall/Burn to an extent. With added problem that Targett is next in line at left back and that Hall is much younger and much greener. They will get their chance. Be patient This is why I'm actually looking forward to the League Cup (or whatever it's called nowadays). Hopefully we'll get to see Livramento and co get a run out ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 1 minute ago, NWMag said: Why would you wait until they are fatigued to rest them? Surely resting them is to prevent fatigue and to ensure they are constantly fresh Who in our back four needs a rest? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, Chris_R said: Rest. Not drop. And yes, that's exactly what you do. Great idea. Take our captain out when he’s playing well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Great idea. Take our captain out when he’s playing well. It is a great idea. That way he can continue to play well in future matches against 'harder' opposition. Plus you show a promising youngster who you've invested heavily in and convinced to join your project that he does have a place here and will get minutes in situations other than when Trippier is injured or banned. Everyone wins. For the record I'm not saying specifically rest Trippier today. But we should rest some players today, quite a few of them for my money, and whether today or another day at some point we should voluntarily rest Trippier. It's a squad game and we have lots of matches this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 What’s the rush and desperation to see Livramento and Hall? They’ll get game time and they’ll be eased in. There’s no rush at all the back four played well v Brentford, can’t remember them having a chance apart from the first five minutes when Pope saved from Hickey. It was a backs to the wall performance in the San Siro but they held out. two clean sheets on the spin, why change literally half the defence and drop our captain? It seems some people think that just because we played on Wednesday then this automatically means players but be dropped out the side. Sheff Utd are there for the taking, keep it as it is. Beat them, rest them v city if needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 Botman is there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 25 minutes ago, Myleftboot said: I think Tonali will play. I’ve been right the last few matches - I’ve got a good mystic ball! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 Just now, Chris_R said: It is a great idea. That way he can continue to play well in future matches against 'harder' opposition. Plus you show a promising youngster who you've invested heavily in and convinced to join your project that he does have a place here and will get minutes in situations other than when Trippier is injured or banned. Everyone wins. For the record I'm not saying specifically rest Trippier today. But we should rest some players today, quite a few of them for my money, and whether today or another day at some point we should voluntarily rest Trippier. It's a squad game and we have lots of matches this year. I’m arguing about the back four only here. The back four is playing well, keep it as it is. Matt1892 is wanting half the back four swapped out including taking our captain out. Isak could do with a rest if he’s got a troubled knee. He’s out of form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 (edited) I can understand wanting Burn out to try a more attacking outlet on the left. I certainly wouldn’t be resting trippier here though, he’s been brilliant the last 2 games. Edited September 24, 2023 by SUPERTOON Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novocastrian Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 Will the real NUFC please stand up! We’ve got a squad to deal with this twice a week programme. Give the kids a game against City and play our strongest team today and then give them a week off before Burnley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, Novocastrian said: Will the real NUFC please stand up! We’ve got a squad to deal with this twice a week programme. Give the kids a game against City and play our strongest team today and then give them a week off before Burnley. I’d actually take a defeat, well maybe I’d take a draw, if it meant we beat City in the cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 Forecast windy in Sheffield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Myleftboot said: I think Tonali will play. Why would he not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 1 minute ago, nufc123 said: Why would he not? Because Howe might want to rotate and use his squad? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, nufc123 said: Why would he not? might have violent diarrhoea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, 54 said: Because Howe might want to rotate and use his squad? Didnt play that long against Milan and didnt play against Brentford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Chris_R said: Which games don't we need 3 points in this season? You could say we don't expect to win away Vs Man City, but everyone wanted our strongest XI out there because it was such a hard game. Which games do you rotate for by your logic? FWIW I don't think we will rotate much today, if at all, but I think that's an area Howe needs to look to improve on because it's going to be a bloody long season for the first XI if he doesn't, and we'll have some seriously pissed reserves. Yeah so I get your point, but my solution would be more organic than forcing unnecessary change. We have a league cup game midweek which despite what others are saying, isn't a priority whatsoever, so I'd certainly ring the changes for that one. Other than that, I'd wait for fatigue, poor form or injury to occur before changing things. I think Howes attitude is to change things when necessary, rather than as a matter of policy and I support this. Don't worry about those players getting opportunities because they will and if in the unlikely circumstance where they don't get opportunities it's because we've had one hell of a season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: might have violent diarrhoea Thats a good reason for not playing. Other than that he should play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 Also don't confusing changing attacking players to be dynamic, because the opposite is true for defenders, you want your defenders to be reliable and predictable. It's also why I suggested we might see Hall in midfield midweek. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 Am not sure it’s always wise to get too deep into team selections. Howe may make some changes not on form or fatigue but based on what he considers the best way to beat them. E.g. This might suit Wilson more than isak, the wide players might reflect their full backs abilities etc For me this is a more important game than Wednesday. Going out first round of the league cup is fine given the CL commitment and beating Sheffield and Burnley is important for a good league season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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