nufc123 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) This Chelsea team isnt great at all, but they were superiour in possession. Edited December 19, 2023 by nufc123 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Players need to be laid up in bed for the next three days solid on a drip. A full 8 hours sleep each night, no access to women. Got to get rid of that fatigue somehow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon_Geordie Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Combination of tiredness in many forms. Physically stretched due to Key injuries and betting habits → those playing are playing high pressure top top opposition every 3 days → Little to no training → Those that are coming back are being rushed back Can't knock these players for being physically and mentally shot. When you see Miggy not sprint back you know they're fucked! Such a bizarre season, even if we had got a port vale or a fulham etc but no, its AC Milan, PSG, Dortmund, Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea...cant fucking write this shit tbh - it's comincal. All with a squad that is simply not ready to battle on 4 fronts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon_Geordie Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Just now, Oregon_Geordie said: Combination of tiredness in many forms. Physically stretched due to Key injuries and betting habits → those playing are playing high pressure top top opposition every 3 days → Little to no training → Those that are coming back are being rushed back Can't knock these players for being physically and mentally shot. When you see Miggy not sprint back you know they're fucked! Such a bizarre season, even if we had got a port vale or a fulham etc but no, its AC Milan, PSG, Dortmund, Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea...cant fucking write this shit tbh - it's comincal. All with a squad that is simply not ready to battle on 4 fronts. and a high tempo, high intensity style! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 I never criticise Eddie but that was a total clusterfuck of decisions tonight , sitting so deep and inviting pressure against a team as average as Chelsea , leaving Gordon on when he was clearly fucked and could hardly run , letting Trippier take a penalty when he is clearly shot to bits, bringing on Ritchie ahead of Lewis , totally bizarre decisions that have ultimately cost us . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Not by me tbh. I was ready to start my reaction post with "I cannot believe we've won that match", I thought the approach was so poor. I always felt the goal was coming. It wasn't though. Chelsea were absolutely rubbish and barely tested us. Backs to the wall got us to 92 minutes and then Trippier shit his kegs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 minute ago, KetsbaiaIsBald said: It was a horrible bounce for Trippier. It put him in no mans land between flicking on and back. Still a horrible mistake. He will be devastated tonight. I feel for him Aye. If he's 2 inches shorter he can help it on behind him. 2 inches taller he heads back to the keeper. The way it bounces up at that height and with little pace meant it was horrible to handle. He should still be dealing with it a lot better than he did, but I can see how he's done it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 It's only worth keeping playing the same players, running them into the ground, if we are getting some benefit from it. We haven't been getting much benefit lately. We might as well just play the kids at the weekend and give the players some time to be able to compete effectively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Milan, PSG, Chelsea. We've had some stinking last minute goals. Sick of it. Injuries too. Every single game more and more. Sick of this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejaxer Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Oregon_Geordie said: AC Milan, PSG, Dortmund, Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea...cant fucking write this shit tbh - it's comincal. You just have to think it's almost intentional tbh then you look at our fixtures in January. Liverpool (A), Sunderland (A), City (H), Villa (A). The only game I can see us winning is Sunderland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 This season has gone from enjoyable to just a mass churn of players being injured, returning, and back on their way to being injured again because of the need to rush them back. It’s relentless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 The injuries aren’t coincidental nor are they bad luck. We haven’t adjusted our style of play particularly well to accommodate the fixtures. We go hell for leather at home and cower away because we’re fucked. This can’t continue - we could spend £400m in the summer but if we have the same number of fixtures the same thing will happen again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Also, Matt Ritchie is a complete waste of a shirt. He can barely run man. There's no point in putting him on unless it's a total last resort. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, Conjo said: It makes sense that the leaders of the squad take responsibility. Ritchie was our dedicated penalty taker before Wilson joined, and probably part of the reason why he came on instead of Hall in case the game went to pens. With 40+ minutes left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timnufc22 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Why was Gordon put on the pitch second half to limp around and make his injury worse? Why was Lewis Hall still ignored? He surely should be ahead of Ritchie to slot in on the left and do a job… but you could have used both with Ritchie on the right to take either Wilson or Almiron off (Almiron could have went down the middle and been able to push Chelsea further back with more pace). Please don’t say Botman is injured again, if so, questions have to be asked on how the fitness of the squad is being managed and I find the in-game management frustrating. I love Howe and would look for him to build his own dynasty. I think his attributes are at the training ground, making players better, drilling in the team shape. But I think, at the moment, he leans too much on particular players he favours and simply doesn't rotate the way he needs to imo. Bruno was immense but needs more help with better technical players around him to keep the ball, Miley amazing for a 17yr old. Lascelles and Burn brilliant. Dubravka has been a quality player for us over the years but I wish he’d adapt his game to sweep up more and he command the box with communication. Can’t help but think another keeper should be in the thinking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, midds said: The next step for Howe and this lot is to be good enough to take the lead, defend like Trojans and see the 90 mins out because we clearly can't do that this season. Dont think the defending is the problem. We are solid enough at the back, but we almost dont touch the ball for a whole half, and its not the first time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, hakka said: The lack of appreciation of the size of our injury list is surprising. Funnily enough these games we are throwing away with mistakes are against sides bringing quality subs late on to change the game. Something we can't do and haven't been able to for weeks. I've argued the same thing myself tbh but at some point you need to point the finger at the players, tonight it's Trippier again, and just ask them why they can't see out the result with 90 seconds to go yet again. It's not a one-off now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Just now, Ronaldo said: With 40+ minutes left. probably part of the reason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 It's tough to watch at the moment, but with us being so stretched there was always a chance it got worse before it got better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Lads did a great job keeping Chelsea from having any real chances tbh. Defensive masterclass from a team that can barely jog. Not bad going Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: Again I agree but at the same time we've been largely crap away from home all season. Seem to completely lack a plan B outside of sitting deep and inviting pressure. It's the 19th December and we've had 2 away wins in all competitions since April. Feel like this seems overly negative/harsh like from myself after tonight but yi kna. I know but we've been poor away from home for a while (feel like this may derail the thread as I'm not miffed or attributing tonight to anything else other than injuries). We didn't have any influence at Man City on the game despite having 41% possession, fairly hefty for a team away at thr Etihad. We were much better there last season. Outplayed comprehensively at Brighton. Lucky to get a point at the San Siro. Hammered the worst team in the league. Really poor first half at West Ham, much improved second, couldn't see it out after taking the lead. And that's before the injuries. Man City Brighton and Wolves were all similar to last season (In fa t I'd sat we were better at Man City and Wolves than least season). Look at our level of substitutions last season, 2nd most and usually from the attacking 6 players to keep intensity up. Eddie was rotating Isak and Wilson. Barnes started for Gordon when he got injured. Murphy got a few starts, a d we started tge season without Willock and Longstaff. So far the only thing people have came up with is Trippier should gave came off for Tino at Wolves, which even if true wouldn't have made a huge deal of difference given everything else. Edited December 19, 2023 by madras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejaxer Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 minute ago, timnufc22 said: I love Howe and would look for him to build his own dynasty. I think his attributes are at the training ground, making players better, drilling in the team shape. But I think, at the moment, he leans too much on particular players he favours and simply doesn't rotate the way he needs to imo. I feel like we were warned about this from Bournemouth fans tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, midds said: We still lack that killer ability to just snuff games out and see results through. We're still soft as fucking shite and gifting teams opportunities they don't deserve. The next step for Howe and this lot is to be good enough to take the lead, defend like Trojans and see the 90 mins out because we clearly can't do that this season. The PSG one was a stitch-up but we've thrown it away several times and now we're out of Europe and the LC as a result. Mental mistakes costing the team. We're not far away, going from relegation to Europe is one thing but getting that 'winner's mentality' has to be the next step. Bring back the shithousing, we've become too nice to play against, all the people we upset with it last season have changed the way we play, fuck them, get back to shithousing results in the last 10 minutes, fuck what people think, couldn't give a fuck how much they hate us. Literally a referee decision away from the 1-0 away to PSG and an error from the same here. They barely hurt us up to that point. One tricky save and that was it, we held them brilliantly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Geogaddi said: I never criticise Eddie but that was a total clusterfuck of decisions tonight , sitting so deep and inviting pressure against a team as average as Chelsea , leaving Gordon on when he was clearly fucked and could hardly run , letting Trippier take a penalty when he is clearly shot to bits, bringing on Ritchie ahead of Lewis , totally bizarre decisions that have ultimately cost us . What's this got to do with Trippier knocking it down for Mudryk in injury time? How is it relevant? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Bruno is keeping this whole thing together at the minute. Without him we would have been pumped tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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