James Trafford

[Guest]

  On 10/06/2024 at 18:39, Pilko said:

 

Tell that to poor Tranquillo Barnetta sat in Jesmond Dene House, he's still waiting for his.

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Pablo Paz still waiting for phonecall from Mick Wadsworth 

[sushimonster85]

  On 11/06/2024 at 15:07, nufc123 said:

Yes, but I think we will try to find our RCB for the years to come also now that Tosin didnt go as planned.

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True, but I wouldn't be shocked if that's a younger guy with potential who comes in the idea of replacing Schar over time, rather than immediately. Think RW is where we see the Bruno/Isak/Tonali style signing. 

[nufc123]

  On 11/06/2024 at 15:15, sushimonster85 said:

 

True, but I wouldn't be shocked if that's a younger guy with potential who comes in the idea of replacing Schar over time, rather than immediately. Think RW is where we see the Bruno/Isak/Tonali style signing. 

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I dont think the CB will be a cheap solution, but probably a young one yes.

[Erikse]

  On 10/06/2024 at 08:20, The College Dropout said:

Fair chance that's less than 5 games this season.

 

Pope missed 9 league games total in the 3 seasons prior to last season.

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If we didn't lose out on ECL, it would be quite a bit more.

 

 

Edited June 11, 2024 by Erikse

[sempuki]

  On 11/06/2024 at 15:13, Pancrate1892 said:

Pablo Paz still waiting for phonecall from Mick Wadsworth 

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Blast from the past! Wasn't he a short Argie CB?

[Guest]

  On 11/06/2024 at 16:52, sempuki said:

Blast from the past! Wasn't he a short Argie CB?

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That's him! Was part of Wadsworth amazing sought after South Americans including cardone, bassedas and the best young player in South America.....gavilan 

[Yorkie]

 

Trafford update from Hope, among the Kelly stuff. 

[Guest]

  On 11/06/2024 at 15:13, Pancrate1892 said:

Pablo Paz still waiting for phonecall from Mick Wadsworth 

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CM/FM legend.

[PauloGeordio]

  On 12/06/2024 at 08:42, Yorkie said:

 

Trafford update from Hope, among the Kelly stuff. 

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Didn’t Burnley ask for £20 mil. 18 gets it done.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Don't clubs just talk and agree a price?

 

I really don't get this bid then reject thing, are we talking in the course of one conversation?

[Guest]

I assume they do it through a network game of Football Manager.

[Likelylad]

I mean they can't seriously expect to make a profit on him considering they've been relegated and they dropped him to the bench at the backend of the season. 

 

[SteV]

  On 12/06/2024 at 09:32, Likelylad said:

I mean they can't seriously expect to make a profit on him considering they've been relegated and they dropped him to the bench at the backend of the season. 

 

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They’re probably trying to cover whatever Man City’s sell on clause is.

[KaKa]

  On 12/06/2024 at 09:27, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Don't clubs just talk and agree a price?

 

I really don't get this bid then reject thing, are we talking in the course of one conversation?

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Think the bids are essentially trying to call a clubs bluff.

 

To see if they'll actually reject a decent bid if it's on the table, and hold out for more.

[Chris L]

  On 12/06/2024 at 09:27, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Don't clubs just talk and agree a price?

 

I really don't get this bid then reject thing, are we talking in the course of one conversation?

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same with any deal between companies. 

a price is sent, usually lower at first to try get a "good deal" on the buyers side.  the selling side then review it and discuss it internally, either say yeah thats fine, or think, no we want more, so go back and say that. or they go back and say we want X amount. the buying club then take that onboard, then return with a new offer.   

 

if both have different values in mind, its not as simple as it looks. buying club have budgets for everything so need to work out if the extra causes issues elsewhere etc

[Guest]

  On 12/06/2024 at 10:00, Chris L said:

same with any deal between companies. 

a price is sent, usually lower at first to try get a "good deal" on the buyers side.  the selling side then review it and discuss it internally, either say yeah thats fine, or think, no we want more, so go back and say that. or they go back and say we want X amount. the buying club then take that onboard, then return with a new offer.   

 

if both have different values in mind, its not as simple as it looks. buying club have budgets for everything so need to work out if the extra causes issues elsewhere etc

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Like boumsong, they offered him on a free and we said no we'd like to pay somebody else 8m 

[huss9]

  On 12/06/2024 at 10:33, Pancrate1892 said:

Like boumsong, they offered him on a free and we said no we'd like to pay somebody else 8m 

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the albert luque negotiations were the best ever.

the comments that later came out from deportivo were incredible.

[simonsays]

I think it's likely most of the negotiation is around payment terms at this stage rather than the fee itself - how much of it is guaranteed and how much is performance/appearance related

[The College Dropout]

  On 12/06/2024 at 09:34, SteV said:

They’re probably trying to cover whatever Man City’s sell on clause is.

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You would expect the sell-on clause is a % of profit.

[SteV]

  On 12/06/2024 at 11:04, The College Dropout said:

You would expect the sell-on clause is a % of profit.

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Yeah, it could well be tbf. 
 

But it could have any number of conditions attached, selling within a certain period, country of club being sold to etc.

[Chris_R]

  On 12/06/2024 at 09:27, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Don't clubs just talk and agree a price?

 

I really don't get this bid then reject thing, are we talking in the course of one conversation?

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I've worked on numerous multi-million £ bids for my company, and they can take weeks or even months, even between established customers.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Fair enough, I know business stuff can be way more complicated than it needs to be. 

 

 

Edited June 12, 2024 by AyeDubbleYoo

[Shearergol]

  On 12/06/2024 at 11:19, Chris_R said:

 

I've worked on numerous multi-million £ bids for my company, and they can take weeks or even months, even between established customers.

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[Rich]

Some proper big hitters on N-O like.

[Guest]

  On 12/06/2024 at 12:43, Rich said:

Some proper big hitters on N-O like.

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Thanks Rich!