SUPERTOON Posted Tuesday at 15:55 Share Posted Tuesday at 15:55 1 minute ago, andycap said: This doesn't sound great on Eddie's part mind two directors of football having no say in transfers basically making them pointless. For all we know Mitchell could have had a list of top potential players lined up and now that will be down the swanny. Ashworth was the reason we got Hall and Tino. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted Tuesday at 15:55 Share Posted Tuesday at 15:55 The clubs plans for success will involve a director of football a manager shouldn't have this much say in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted Tuesday at 15:55 Share Posted Tuesday at 15:55 21 minutes ago, MagPar said: A bit mean, going down the hair route with the insults. I do hope you're not a young man or karma might come calling on your fancy hairdo. For the record,I'm not defending him because I myself am bald. I'm 48 with a thick head of brown hair, albeit a tad on the grey side. I actually started going grey in my late teens (no doubt due to my horrendous upbringing). I'll save my childhood for the mental health thread,if there is one. Ps not aimed at person quoted but the person he laughed at. Well thats the last time we ever call anyone bald on N-O then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted Tuesday at 15:56 Share Posted Tuesday at 15:56 1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: It depends why he left though, we don't know it's anything to do with power etc with Howe. Yeah, but that gives you no capacity to worry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted Tuesday at 15:56 Share Posted Tuesday at 15:56 What I'm trying to say is the directors we've had have not been able to do the job they want to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallumG6 Posted Tuesday at 15:57 Share Posted Tuesday at 15:57 When’s the job out on LinkedIn then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted Tuesday at 15:57 Share Posted Tuesday at 15:57 1 minute ago, andycap said: The clubs plans for success will involve a director of football a manager shouldn't have this much say in my opinion. Yet it's the managers neck if these players don't work out.. howe should have the final say as should all managers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted Tuesday at 15:58 Share Posted Tuesday at 15:58 Ashworth left because he wanted the Man United gig mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted Tuesday at 15:58 Share Posted Tuesday at 15:58 We haven't got a manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted Tuesday at 15:58 Share Posted Tuesday at 15:58 In the future howe will struggle for jobs if he can't deal with a director above him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted Tuesday at 15:59 Share Posted Tuesday at 15:59 1 minute ago, Gaztoon said: Yet it's the managers neck if these players don't work out.. howe should have the final say as should all managers No he shouldn't, they coach them that's the managers job Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted Tuesday at 15:59 Share Posted Tuesday at 15:59 1 minute ago, andycap said: In the future howe will struggle for jobs if he can't deal with a director above him. Nah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted Tuesday at 15:59 Share Posted Tuesday at 15:59 2 minutes ago, andycap said: What I'm trying to say is the directors we've had have not been able to do the job they want to. Can you expand? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted Tuesday at 16:00 Share Posted Tuesday at 16:00 1 minute ago, andycap said: In the future howe will struggle for jobs if he can't deal with a director above him. He’s here for life so that’s no problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted Tuesday at 16:00 Share Posted Tuesday at 16:00 Just now, andycap said: In the future howe will struggle for jobs if he can't deal with a director above him. Has there been any suffering of a rift with Hughes or Ashworth though? The fact Ashworth allegedly would be open to working with Howe again suggests the opposite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted Tuesday at 16:02 Share Posted Tuesday at 16:02 27 minutes ago, MagPar said: A bit mean, going down the hair route with the insults. I do hope you're not a young man or karma might come calling on your fancy hairdo. For the record,I'm not defending him because I myself am bald. I'm 48 with a thick head of brown hair, albeit a tad on the grey side. I actually started going grey in my late teens (no doubt due to my horrendous upbringing). I'll save my childhood for the mental health thread,if there is one. Ps not aimed at person quoted but the person he laughed at. You’re responsible for making us go bald in the transfer thread tbf I don’t think it’s that deep. Baldy is just a funny word to say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted Tuesday at 16:03 Share Posted Tuesday at 16:03 4 minutes ago, andycap said: In the future howe will struggle for jobs if he can't deal with a director above him. Sure Eddie will struggle to get a job. Not attractive at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted Tuesday at 16:03 Share Posted Tuesday at 16:03 3 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Can you expand? Well bring in there targets and expand the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted Tuesday at 16:04 Share Posted Tuesday at 16:04 3 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Has there been any suffering of a rift with Hughes or Ashworth though? The fact Ashworth allegedly would be open to working with Howe again suggests the opposite. Not sure on the Hughes front but ashworth says his input wasn't used as he'd liked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted Tuesday at 16:05 Share Posted Tuesday at 16:05 (edited) 6 minutes ago, andycap said: No he shouldn't, they coach them that's the managers job Howes the boss, manager or head coach.. if the players don't perform then it's him getting the sack.. he should be picking the players he thinks will work best in his system.. not someone in the stands. Edited Tuesday at 16:05 by Gaztoon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted Tuesday at 16:06 Share Posted Tuesday at 16:06 1 hour ago, LFEE said: Think you are picking that up the wrong way personally speaking. PIF and how they function/act in most things are notoriously diligent so not known for their speed. Probably something they’ve learned in their short time in football and EH putting out a reminder how quickly you need to act in certain cases. Don’t think it was aimed at PM directly. EH probably aware that he was probably going to depart along with Eales shortly so good time to clear the decks. I honestly don’t think there is much drama to see here at all. Especially when you put the two statements together 🤷🏼♂️ It’s more procrastination and inefficiency than diligence at PIF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted Tuesday at 16:06 Share Posted Tuesday at 16:06 2 minutes ago, Displayname said: Sure Eddie will struggle to get a job. Not attractive at all. I mean as in if you were an owner and needed a manager but your setups involve directors of football you'd have to have reservations on him with his past at newcastle concerning the directors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted Tuesday at 16:07 Share Posted Tuesday at 16:07 1 minute ago, andycap said: Not sure on the Hughes front but ashworth says his input wasn't used as he'd liked. When did he say that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted Tuesday at 16:08 Share Posted Tuesday at 16:08 2 minutes ago, Gaztoon said: Howes the boss, manager or head coach.. if the players don't perform then it's him getting the sack.. he should be picking the players he thinks will work best in his system.. not someone in the stands. That's so 1990s mate clubs don't operate like that now. Except man utd and look at the clip of them manager after manager bringing in who they want then another comes in and so on and so on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted Tuesday at 16:09 Share Posted Tuesday at 16:09 It'll be interesting how this new technical director fits in. Maybe stays away a bit from the football side but gives a bit of direction and also mainly makes sure things run in a joined up way. Which I think Ashworth was originally planned to do. I don't know how involved Mitchell was or not. If he's improved the scouting / data side as he stated he wanted to at the start, that'll be a plus. I'm sure a lot of it will come out in time. I don't know, just need to find something that works and hopefully get some consistency in the top team. Will be interesting how the new CEO thinks things should be set up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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