Marc Guehi

[The Prophet]

7 hours ago, Erikse said:

 

He'd try to get a similar price, just because january.

 

Aye, I don't think it'll put is off though.

[Cf]

6 hours ago, r0cafella said:

I’m all fumed out thank you for your concern

 

the reason I call it incompetence is because we had a few warning signs to walk away, Parish flapping his gums, Palace starting him even in the league cup  Palace totally willing to negotiate on price etc. Ultimately we never agreed a deal with Palace so we were essentially betting the house on something which had sand for foundations. This is why I don’t see it as misfortune, it was somewhat predictable. 

 

I get what you're trying to say but we still have our £70m. We haven't "lost" anything unless you see that as not signing another CB but by all accounts Guehi was the target, and Howe wanted him or no-one at this point in time. 

[r0cafella]

2 minutes ago, Cf said:

 

I get what you're trying to say but we still have our £70m. We haven't "lost" anything unless you see that as not signing another CB but by all accounts Guehi was the target, and Howe wanted him or no-one at this point in time. 

Oh yeah absolutely; financially we haven’t lost out in fact we’ve gained. In terms of the other aspects that depends we need to wait and see what they do with the money before making further judgements. 

[bobbydazzla]

6 hours ago, Stottie said:

I see all of this as a result of failing to sign Tosin. A refusal to pay a little extra there cost the club a mostly wasted transfer window and nearly cost the club a record transfer fee.

 

What little extra do you think we refused to pay ?

 

We can't compete with Chelsea on wages, recent trophy wins or being based where he already lives. It's a madhouse there, but the odds were stacked against us as soon as they came in.

 

If more money and staying local is his preference over regular starts and a more stable environment then that's his prerogative. But I think it also means he's not a player with an attitude that fits with the current NUFC ethos.

 

 

 

 

Edited September 4, 2024 by bobbydazzla

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I don’t want the club to be competing for people who are prepared to take loads of money to sit on the Chelsea bench TBH. 
 

If he wanted to come for a reasonable price, great. If he preferred money and not moving house in order to not play, that’s on him. 

 

 

Edited September 4, 2024 by AyeDubbleYoo

[gbandit]

I wonder what’ll happen with Tosin. Chelsea will be desperate to sell him to make a profit but if he barely plays they’re not going to get a significant fee from Europe. Maybe another KSA treat

[r0cafella]

2 minutes ago, gbandit said:

I wonder what’ll happen with Tosin. Chelsea will be desperate to sell him to make a profit but if he barely plays they’re not going to get a significant fee from Europe. Maybe another KSA treat

His salary might be a bit high but nothing Chelsea can’t cope with. He can just warm the bench until Fofana gets injured (which should be any day now). 
 

Super low risk inexpensive signing as far as Chelsea are concerned. 

[bobbydazzla]

Chelsea have got about a billion players that they paid billions for and who earn billions but aren't very good

 

Tosin as a free transfer and mid to low end earner won't even feature in their financial thinking. In fact they've probably already forgotten that they even signed him.

 

 

Edited September 4, 2024 by bobbydazzla

[OverThere]

1 hour ago, bobbydazzla said:

Chelsea have got about a billion players that they paid billions for and who earn billions but aren't very good

 

Tosin as a free transfer and mid to low end earner won't even feature in their financial thinking. In fact they've probably already forgotten that they even signed him.

 

 

 

Maybe they signed him so we couldn't.

[KaKa]

10 hours ago, Erikse said:

 

He'd try to get a similar price, just because january.

 

£70 million?!

 

No chance surely.

 

By then we'll be on our way to getting both Botman and Lascelles back.

 

If he's fortunate maybe £50 million at best, and only if we think we can get in ahead of other teams by doing a deal then.

 

I think there's a chance everyone waits till the summer and he'll start seeing £35 million bids as Guehi will be on a free In a year.

 

 

Edited September 4, 2024 by KaKa

[Erikse]

5 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

£70 million?!

 

No chance surely.

 

By then we'll be on our way to getting both Botman and Lascelles back.

 

If he's fortunate maybe £50 million at best, and only if we think we can get in ahead of other teams by doing a deal then.

 

I think there's a chance everyone waits till the summer and he'll start seeing £35 million bids as he will be on a free In a year.

 

How much do clubs add to the price of players in january, though? Like 30%? Wouldn't be surprised if Parish thinks that the mid season factor evens out the price drop from the 1,5 year contract. Judging by his dealings this summer, I'm not convinced that he will be desperate to sell in january.

 

I'm not necessarily saying £70m, but around that. That also includes prices like £65m.

 

 

Edited September 4, 2024 by Erikse

[KaKa]

20 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

How much do clubs add to the price of players in january, though? Like 30%? Wouldn't be surprised if Parish thinks that the mid season factor evens out the price drop from the 1,5 year contract. Judging by his dealings this summer, I'm not convinced that he will be desperate to sell in january.

 

I'm not necessarily saying £70m, but around that. That also includes prices like £65m.

 

 

 

 

I'd be surprised.

 

The way he's talking he's already seemingly trying to generate interest.

 

If he sticks to that sort of money, no one will go for it I don't think. 

[Kimbo]

I think Parish cares too much about his image to lower it by more than 5m or so. It would be humiliating to accept a lot less than he was asking for just a few months ago. If Guehi doesn’t sign a new contract then Parish has cornered himself.

[KaKa]

1 minute ago, Kimbo said:

I think Parish cares too much about his image to lower it by more than 5m or so. It would be humiliating to accept a lot less than he was asking for just a few months ago. If Guehi doesn’t sign a new contract then Parish has cornered himself.

 

Going to be more humiliating next summer as the price only drops further and further from here.

 

It was legit crazy the offers he turned down from us this summer.

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, KaKa said:

 

Going to be more humiliating next summer as the price only drops further and further from here.

 

It was legit crazy the offers he turned down from us this summer.

Your looking at it the wrong way Kaka, what Parish cares about is being in the premier league; if they keep Guehi and don’t get relegated he’s won for another year regardless of how much less they get for him. 
 

 

[NSG]

If Leverkusen pull a Napoli and have a shit season, Tapsoba is the way to go.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

1 minute ago, r0cafella said:

Your looking at it the wrong way Kaka, what Parish cares about is being in the premier league; if they keep Guehi and don’t get relegated he’s won for another year regardless of how much less they get for him. 
 

 

 

Really? Surely they need to bring in money too? Obviously if selling Guehi means relegation, it's a bad decision. But you never actually know that. 

[El Prontonise]

1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

Really? Surely they need to bring in money too? Obviously if selling Guehi means relegation, it's a bad decision. But you never actually know that. 

 

Palace don't seem to be a club that needs to sell especially with the fees they got this summer.

[KaKa]

1 minute ago, r0cafella said:

Your looking at it the wrong way Kaka, what Parish cares about is being in the premier league; if they keep Guehi and don’t get relegated he’s won for another year regardless of how much less they get for him. 
 

 

 

They're not really at threat of going down are they? I don't see that at all.

 

The manager and team is far above that in my opinion.

 

They also managed to get in Chalobah and Lacroix who are plenty good enough. Chalobah is a good, solid Prem experienced defender. Lacroix is of a decent calibre, and is well known by the manager who has worked with him previously.

[r0cafella]

2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

Really? Surely they need to bring in money too? Obviously if selling Guehi means relegation, it's a bad decision. But you never actually know that. 

Yea but he doesn’t need to risk it because the downside is much more than what we are offering. If he doesn’t get relegated and sells for 50m In the summer Parish has played a blinder. 

[KaKa]

Just now, El Prontonise said:

 

Palace don't seem to be a club that needs to sell especially with the fees they got this summer.

 

If you have a player that isn't looking to sign an extension and is therefore a depreciating asset, for most clubs, you want to get good value for them.

 

Turning down £70 million and possibly then losing him on a free down the line is just really bad business.

[gbandit]

If Guehi doesn’t sign a contract extension and is still at Palace in the summer he won’t be going for anything near £50m in my opinion. Will be in the £30m range. We’ve already seen how cagey teams are about spending money, it’s potentially only going to get worse unless regulations change. Chelsea may be fucked by then, Man City may be in trouble too with their legal case. Save for a KSA big bid then Guehi could hold at around £50m in January but it’ll be a lot less in the summer 

[KaKa]

1 minute ago, gbandit said:

If Guehi doesn’t sign a contract extension and is still at Palace in the summer he won’t be going for anything near £50m in my opinion. Will be in the £30m range. We’ve already seen how cagey teams are about spending money, it’s potentially only going to get worse unless regulations change. Chelsea may be fucked by then, Man City may be in trouble too with their legal case. Save for a KSA big bid then Guehi could hold at around £50m in January but it’ll be a lot less in the summer 

 

Agree completely.

[Guest]

Funniest thing is Palace fans would prefer getting 30m from Liverpool over 70m from us

[gbandit]

It should be added that he has had a few shaky games already this season and even the best professional in the world could lose their motivation after being strung along by their owner like this. It’s clear that he was told that the move was going to happen I think and now Parish is doing damage management. An injury or lack of form and the value takes another hit. Parish might have helped save his ‘alpha’ imagine but he’s cost Palace massively