LFEE Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said: It’s definitely a pen, unfortunately we know a player just has to beat the keeper and get a touch on his foot to get a pen. Whether that’s right or not you can debate, but it’s a penalty under any recent application of the rules. It’s not a foul. It’s not a penalty. Saying it’s definitely a penalty is just silly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 1 minute ago, LFEE said: Agreed. For the record the Jota one is more of a penalty than today’s. As much as I hate admitting it. Jota never a penalty personally but GK guilty of the slightest of contact towards him. Today it was all on AG initiating everything. Bullshit. Did I mention it went to VAR? Just admit you are wrong........... and that you've been on the piss all day (winky face). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 Of course it's a penalty, the same as a hundred similar ones before have been penalties for the same or less contact. To say anything else is too rewrite the rules, var and modern football. As they say don't hate the player, hate the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 1 minute ago, RobsonsWonderland said: Of course it's a penalty, the same as a hundred similar ones before have been penalties for the same or less contact. To say anything else is too rewrite the rules, var and modern football. As they say don't hate the player, hate the game. Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 Well that’s that sorted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 9 minutes ago, Pilko said: Don't understand why people are arguing over one that went our way so much. Remember that fucking Jota one at Anfield last year? If that's a pen, the Gordon one was a fucking stonewaller. Well that one absolutely fucking wasn't a penalty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 Just now, LFEE said: Well that’s that sorted Bed now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 Just now, Rod said: Bed now! Definitely… out since 10am 🫡 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 Perhaps this has bren mentioned already today but attacking-wise, we looked so much better with Trippier in at RB. The link up play with the little triangles with Murphy and Tonali/Bruno, the overlaps that were created, brought so much memories of the good times we were playing at from the previous 2 seasons. Rest him for Wimbledon though to manage his playing time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 Definitely a pen imo, keeper impedes him without getting anywhere near the ball. Memories of Lovenkrands v Barnsley in the famous 6-1 of 09/10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 (edited) 3 hours ago, gdm said: just honest opinion. Gordon clearly goes looking for it. The one we didn’t get was more of a pen Gordon was first to the ball. Maybe he kicks it past the goalie to get a pen, but that doesn't matter. That allways gets given. Show me an example of that not being given? If you think that shouldn't be a pen, then you have a problem with the rules, not the decision. Edited September 28 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 1 minute ago, Erikse said: Gordon was first to the ball. Yes, he probably kicks it past the goalie to get a pen, but that allways gets given. Show me an example of that stuff not being given? Complain about the rules instead. When we played Man City in December 2021. Ederson on Fraser (maybe wrong), fucking scandal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 Not sure how they were missing their two best players when their 10 goals in 5 games striker played mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 1 minute ago, Danh1 said: When we played Man City in December 2021. Ederson on Fraser (maybe wrong), fucking scandal. I had forgotten that one in the list of pens we never got vs City. But atleast 9.5/10 times these are given. I've seen it so many times before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 Not to mention Tiote’s wondergoal ruled out as Joe Hart had dandruff in his eyes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 Just remembered De Jong breaking HBA’s leg as well. Fucking prick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 9 hours ago, Yorkie said: W: 39 D: 15 L: 9 Under Eddie Howe at SJP. Unbeaten in 86% of all games at home. Is that league only? From memory the only losses at home since February 1, 2022 are: Liverpool x3 Arsenal City Milan (chasing a goal) Dortmund The Chris Wood Boxing Day Massacre Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 (edited) 16 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: Is that league only? From memory the only losses at home since February 1, 2022 are: Liverpool x3 Arsenal City Milan (chasing a goal) Dortmund The Chris Wood Boxing Day Massacre That last one is such an anomaly Which DC broke the matrix? Edited September 29 by Heron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 (edited) 3 hours ago, LFEE said: Agreed. For the record the Jota one is more of a penalty than today’s. As much as I hate admitting it. Jota never a penalty personally but GK guilty of the slightest of contact towards him. Today it was all on AG initiating everything. In what way was he initiating it? He was just running at full speed in a completely normal way. What was he supposed to do to avoid the contact? Just stop running and let Ederson take the ball? By the way, when you look at it full speed, you will see how fast everything happened. Slow motion is misleading if you forget about the fact that it's slow motion. "Anyone whos played football at basic level " haven't tried to run at that the speed Gordon is going, and then have their standing leg being nudged like that. Edited September 29 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 xG: Newcastle (1.69) 1-1 (0.82) Man City Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 (edited) I don't agree that he is initiating contact (physically/literally). It is what would probably be called a 55/45 ball to be won and evidently the 45 (Ederson) miscalculated it as being 50/50. I think what is more pertinent, is whether the majority of players say 15 years ago go down here. To which the answer is no, in my opinion. As a defender, I don't see this as sufficient contact to go down (pre-VAR) but now (because of VAR and the modern "if there's contact go down cause VAR will validate it" game) it would be given a penalty and so by drawing any challenge in, as Gordon does so well, he is luring his prey into a false sense of security whereby they think it's a 50/50 and it isn't. That, is, somewhat, initiating contact (psychologically). Thus making it a game issue not a player issue. And now I'm done being diplomatic but that's helped me pass 5mins where I simply cannot sleep. Edited September 29 by Heron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 From Opta: This 1-1 draw ended a run of 14 consecutive Premier League games in which Manchester City had scored multiple goals; that was the joint-second longest such run in the competition’s history (Liverpool 15 between March and September 2019). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 (edited) He clearly hits his left leg, and you can't really tell with certainty that Gordon could've stayed on his feet.. It doesn't take that much at that speed. Only Gordon knows. The refs can't tell either, and the rules are not at that level of subjectivity. If they were, we would have even more inconsistent refereeing. Going down easily was pretty common 15 years ago, by the way. I definetly think most players 15 years ago would go down there, even if it actually was possible to stay up. The ref will nearly allways give that on field, and that would be enough 15 years ago. Edited September 29 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 3 hours ago, timeEd32 said: Is that league only? From memory the only losses at home since February 1, 2022 are: Liverpool x3 Arsenal City Milan (chasing a goal) Dortmund The Chris Wood Boxing Day Massacre Our record against Liverpool needs putting to bed this season. I really can't stand them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPL Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 (edited) Smart play by Gordon. If that goes against us, I wouldn't have too many complaints. It's just what modern football is these days. Edited September 29 by CPL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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