Ranking our Squad - 21 Livramento

[frankpingel]

Felt a bit off giving him C but I don't consider him a B by the given definition. Probably C+.

[La Parka]

C+. Not there yet but getting there. He's improved massively under Eddie. Fair play because for most of last season I thought he'd given up on him. 

[Lush Vlad]

B. Potential to get to an A. 

[Sibierski]

B. Think he would start at every single club in league bar Man City (unless Pep switched Gvardiol to CB).

 

He's everything you want in a modern full back, and still at the age where you can mould him to play how you want him to.

 

Likes of Gordon / Bruno / Tonali / Isak are the ones that are attracted in media for lazy (and easy) links away. But someone coming in for major money in summer for Hall I could see happening. He's already at a top level and someone you can lock down a position for 8-10 seasons.

[MagMal]

The best left back since John Beresford

[Kid Icarus]

45 minutes ago, LFEE said:

Similar thoughts. Will he gain a yard of pace as he gets older? Not convinced he will with his build so his ceiling is B at LB. Still would like to see him further up the pitch TBH.

 

Yeah. His ability to pick a pass is very good, he's had a couple of matches where he's been good going forward and a couple where he's been good defending and is generally always good on the ball, but he hasn't hit the heights or consistency of Jose Enrique or Beresford just yet. I'm confident that those performances are in the post though. 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 15:09 by Kid Icarus

[AyeDubbleYoo]

B, arguably the best LB in the league or will be soon. Could start for anyone including Liverpool and Man City. 

[Troll]

He's a B, but I gave him an A to balance out all the Cs.

[Erikse]

Our second best player this season is a C? Would you guys rate Gordon as a C for our squad last season, just because he didn't make the team the season before?

 

 

Edited 20 hours ago by Erikse

[TheBrownBottle]

5 hours ago, MagMal said:

The best left back since John Beresford

Beresford wasn’t the best LB at the club when he was there  - Robbie Elliott was a better LB for me

[TheBrownBottle]

Hall is a C, though clearly if he keeps developing he’s a B

[TheBrownBottle]

2 minutes ago, Erikse said:

Our second best player this season is a C? Would you guys rate Gordon as a C for our squad last season, just because he didn't make the team the season before?

 

 

 

It’s not about form 

[Erikse]

Just now, TheBrownBottle said:

It’s not about form 

 

So Gordon is a C then.

[TheBrownBottle]

Just now, Erikse said:

 

So Gordon is a C then.

Borderline B/C for me, though probably under the definition rules a B (just).  

[Erikse]

1 minute ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Borderline B/C for me, though probably under the definition rules a B (just).  

 

Hall has been a top player for nearly a season, just like Gordon was last season. I bet most of the ones ranking Hall as a C would have Gordon as a B at the end of last season. Despite performing for less than a year.

[TheBrownBottle]

Just now, Erikse said:

 

Hall has been a top player for nearly a season, just like Gordon was last season. I bet most of the ones ranking Hall as a C would have Gordon as a B at the end of last season. Despite performing for less than a year.

It’s the definition rules mate - they don’t exactly allow for much nuance.  He’s clearly an excellent PL footballer, but I think right now he’s fractionally below ‘elite’, which then means I have to vote for him being a solid PL player.  Anyone ranking Hall as an A thinks he’s one of the best two or three LBs in the world - and there are 11 so far who’ve voted that way.  I’d describe that as crackers.

 

Gordon is borderline B/C for me.  So is Hall.  I don’t think either are genuine ‘elite’, but at the same time they’re not solid PL players, either.  If pushed, I’m going for Hall being narrowly below that line and Gordon narrowly above it. 

[Cf]

A well deserved B for Lewis Hall.

 

Now for his opposite number in Valentino Livramento.

[TheBrownBottle]

Livramento is a solid C

[Cf]

I was between a B and a C.

 

Despite feeling like he's not quite hit the levels he should this season I've awarded him a B as I reckon he hasn't had the same quality in front of him that Lewis Hall has had which will make his life more difficult. Was close mind.

[Donut]

Solid C. IF he improves his attacking play he can easily be a B. I hope he does, we need it.

[gbandit]

Can’t give Tino more than a C based on this season. Last season he was a B almost every game. He’ll get back to being a B but for now, it’s a C

[Mattoon]

Solid C for Tino, potential to be a B and was heading in the right direction but seems to have stalled this season.

[NotRich]

C

[Ronson333]

He’ll be a B if we buy a RW that cuts inside more and leaves space for Tino’s overlapping runs. At the moment Murphy doesn’t do that and it takes away a lot of Tino’s dribbling skills. Defensively he’s still one of our better ones.

[Zero]

He should be a B, but unfortunately his is playing like a C and so C for me.