gbandit Posted Wednesday at 16:34 Share Posted Wednesday at 16:34 In this era to not be able to kick a football or receive a football is criminal. His sweeping is his massive saving grace but when you combine his kicking with his inability to dive to his left and his age, itās a clear D for meĀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted Wednesday at 16:36 Share Posted Wednesday at 16:36 Saying that, if he makes some wonder saves or saves a pen on Sunday, Iāll love him forever. I do already love the lad but heās just over the hill now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted Wednesday at 16:46 Share Posted Wednesday at 16:46 C- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted yesterday at 07:40 Share Posted yesterday at 07:40 Apologies for the delay. I'm ill at the moment Ā Nick Pope scores a C- thus narrowly outranking Dubravka. Ā Up next is Jacob Murphy... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted yesterday at 08:02 Share Posted yesterday at 08:02 Hmm, Jacob. Iād say for large parts of his career with us heās been a D and even an E. This season heās definitely been a C. Find it hard to give him a C because of the obvious basic weaknesses in his game. Going to be harsh and give him a D as I think thatās probably his average levelĀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vedder Posted yesterday at 08:05 Share Posted yesterday at 08:05 Early in his time here, I thought heād always be an E. Now Iād give him C- but that is an incredible transformation for him.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted yesterday at 08:28 Share Posted yesterday at 08:28 I think I might be one of Murphyās biggest defenders on N-O - but heās still a D for me on the basis of how the rankings work. Ā Iāll happily state that as a pro and as a bloke heās an A, mind - and it is all credit to him and Howe just how well heās performed in this side. Ā Heās a PL quality player, but only as a squad member Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted yesterday at 08:30 Share Posted yesterday at 08:30 49 minutes ago, Cf said: Apologies for the delay. I'm ill at the moment Ā Nick Pope scores a C- thus narrowly outranking Dubravka. Ā Up next is Jacob Murphy... Sorry to bother a sick person - but how are the rankings looking so far based on the players rated to date? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted yesterday at 09:02 Share Posted yesterday at 09:02 32 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Sorry to bother a sick person - but how are the rankings looking so far based on the players rated to date? Ā They're all in the OP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted yesterday at 09:06 Share Posted yesterday at 09:06 Between a D and E for me on Murphy. Squad option, but not a āgoodā squad option. Ā And ānot good enoughā for the PL definitely applies for me. Heās technically very poor and gives the ball away for fun.Ā Ā That said, heās somehow made himself useful to us and deserves a lot of credit for that. Heās also super fit and a great pro.Ā Ā Overall went D to be positive.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted yesterday at 09:38 Share Posted yesterday at 09:38 Tough. Gone with C, because I think for bottom half sides him playing direct RW will yield an output as weāve seen. Ā But then heās really limited and the extra 10% we get could be because itās his hometown club. Like a c- for me but unbeatable d+ for others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted yesterday at 09:47 Share Posted yesterday at 09:47 He's a C-. Played out of his skin this season. A threat because he's an athlete, dedicated and unpredictable. He's been as low as an E here and I think this season is his ceiling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepharite Posted yesterday at 09:59 Share Posted yesterday at 09:59 Obviously has ability and skill but can't execute consistently. The gulf between the highs and lows must be a mentality thing? C Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted yesterday at 12:44 Share Posted yesterday at 12:44 Murphy is a D, but is having his best season playing like a C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roids Posted yesterday at 12:55 Share Posted yesterday at 12:55 Higher level Champ/bottom 6 Prem player. Solid D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted yesterday at 13:07 Share Posted yesterday at 13:07 His numbers may be pretty good but his general play doesn't reflect it imo. Along with a new keeper a new RW is another huge priority for the first team. Having a genuine threat in open play on that side of the pitch also creates more space for Gordon and Isak too, too often moves break down on the right hand side and I think we channel more attacks down the left and teams know this. A better balance would be nice.Ā Ā He's a D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted yesterday at 15:33 Share Posted yesterday at 15:33 2 hours ago, midds said: His numbers may be pretty good but his general play doesn't reflect it imo. Along with a new keeper a new RW is another huge priority for the first team. Having a genuine threat in open play on that side of the pitch also creates more space for Gordon and Isak too, too often moves break down on the right hand side and I think we channel more attacks down the left and teams know this. A better balance would be nice.Ā Ā He's a D His G/A is of a solid B. Does he not have more G/A than Murphy in less minutes? Ā Off the ball he's great too. Ā But often - it's clear he's not a top PL player. Maybe not a PL player at all. He's like Pope - we should avoid passing to him in our own half unless on a break. Him, Longstaff and Tino on the right hand side is so painful to experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted yesterday at 16:15 Share Posted yesterday at 16:15 A D here a C elsewhereĀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted yesterday at 16:21 Share Posted yesterday at 16:21 Our squad is shite like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 1 hour ago, Shearergol said: Our squad is shite like. Been an excellent exercise in showing consensus opinion that our squad has way more holes than purples. Should count as a major argument for Howe being a magicianĀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 1 minute ago, gbandit said: Been an excellent exercise in showing consensus opinion that our squad has way more holes than purples. Should count as a major argument for Howe being a magicianĀ Then they'll say this squad should finish in Europe. Ā But also.. classifying players as ABCD etc. is reductive.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 7 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Then they'll say this squad should finish in Europe. Ā But also.. classifying players as ABCD etc. is reductive.Ā Itās clearly reductive but then thereās no categorisation system that wouldnāt be. I think if you donāt take it too seriously the consensus grades that have been assigned so far are very accurate for their levels and donāt show major biases in fan perceptions. Whether that translates to peopleās views on Howeās achievements remains to be seenĀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 12 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Then they'll say this squad should finish in Europe. Ā But also.. classifying players as ABCD etc. is reductive.Ā Ā Depends who they are up against really. If Spurs and Man U were performing according to their status it would make our job a lot harder. I'm sure those clubs would be classifying their big money signings as D's as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 2 hours ago, gbandit said: Been an excellent exercise in showing consensus opinion that our squad has way more holes than purples. Should count as a major argument for Howe being a magicianĀ Which only works if you analyse the other squads around us in the same manner. Ā Our squad is better than that of Bournemouth, Fulham or Forest for starters.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago 6 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Which only works if you analyse the other squads around us in the same manner. Ā Our squad is better than that of Bournemouth, Fulham or Forest for starters.Ā You say that but Iād have absolutely no confidence assigning ratings for a single player outside of NUFC. I will comment on individual players a lot when I watch them in the āother gamesā thread but realistically you only know your own players well enough to score Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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