Dr.Spaceman Posted yesterday at 12:14 Share Posted yesterday at 12:14 (edited) Had a purple patch when he first got here, then was a bit meh, then got injured then came back and was good, got injured again and now can't trap a bag of cement. Or something like that. I guess he "just needs a run of games" or some bollocks. Edited yesterday at 12:15 by Dr.Spaceman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BergenMagpie Posted yesterday at 12:35 Share Posted yesterday at 12:35 He reminds me so much of Wijnaldum. Class on his day, but there are so many games he's completely invisible. One of the players I always wanted to succeed here, but I'd cash in on him now. Should be a C, but I'd give him a D- now due to availability Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. TC Posted yesterday at 12:36 Share Posted yesterday at 12:36 33 minutes ago, Erikse said: I didn't know that being injured right now (or for a while) is a factor, though. In that case Botman could be a C. Krafth was out with the same injury, and he's 30 aswell. He came back and did well. I just think that E is pretty harsh, like he's not that bad, and he probably still has 2-3 more years in him. Yeah, I see what you mean. In my head he was older than 31 because he has been around so long. Probably should be a D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted yesterday at 15:24 Share Posted yesterday at 15:24 Another C / C- player. Probably will be down in championship by the time he’s 30 though because of injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted yesterday at 15:45 Share Posted yesterday at 15:45 The fact that Trippier got a C and Murphy got a D says a lot. Ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted yesterday at 16:01 Share Posted yesterday at 16:01 Really like Willock, but he if we can get a decent fee for him I think it's time we part ways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted yesterday at 16:30 Share Posted yesterday at 16:30 C, has looked a B at times but uas slipped to a D of late. Would sell for 20 mill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vedder Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago D. I used to think he was a good option coming off the bench but he’s offered so little this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago C - potential to be a B again. Never gonna be an Isak, Bruno, Tonali, Botman but has the tools to be a first team player if he can stay fit. If we get into Europe he could be really useful to keep hold of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago D. But I think he'd do better: Given a run of games Given time playing with joelinton Given time to play with hall He's categorically not a central midfielder in my opinion. A wide playmaker or a 10 who doesn't fit or is outclassed by the rest of the squad. He's a bit of a luxury in our formation and doesn't work as hard defensively as we need him too. When he's on form, confident and fit he's a weapon on the left - a different dynamic to the other wingers. Not fit enough recently either sadly. I really do like him but he's not at a C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 1 hour ago, Displayname said: The fact that Trippier got a C and Murphy got a D says a lot. Ridiculous. Agree that's a fkn joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago Having reviewed his stats as a player for us in combination with my personal opinion and thoughts on him as a player, I've landed on D- to E+ Chose to go "E" as whilst I do believe he could work as squad filler for teams in a PL relegation fight, in my subjective and personal opinion, he just feels like a player that failed to reach PL level – but could still do a decent job in the Champo for one of the teams down there. The latter of those scenarios struck me as the one that felt "most natural" for me, as such; E. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago 2 hours ago, La Parka said: Agree that's a fkn joke. It 100% is, Murphy has outperformed Willock in every metric in all seasons they've both been playing for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago Willock is a C/D, but I’ve just about went D as it isn’t clear if the lad is going to recover to previous levels. There’s talent there, but my worry would be that he’s just too injury prone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 9 hours ago, Kaizero said: It 100% is, Murphy has outperformed Willock in every metric in all seasons they've both been playing for us. People using the Bruce year's against him imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 41 minutes ago, La Parka said: People using the Bruce year's against him imo. Willock might have outscored Murphy in the Bruce season, but beyond that the stats tell a different story. And yes, I'm aware a lot of people aren't fond of how analytics has become a part of the game. I even agree to a certain extent as xG and xA when used alone doesn't actually mean anything regarding either a team or player's skill/performance, as a player getting hit in their arse with the ball without even knowing and either scoring or assisting a goal will have effect on xG and xA without taking context into the equation. However, "x" analytics go much, much, deeper than just xG and xA – xGChain90 and xGBuildUp90, especially the latter as it doesn't take shots or goals into account – just the quality of chance creation stemming from the choice(s) ab individual player make when possessing the ball. In every other metric than goals scored, Murphy outperformed Willock. In certain areas, by a lot – such as a Murphy involvement in build-up being 45.2% more likely to lead to a shot on target (by another player) than a Willock involvement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago I'm in agreement with you kaiz. I love Morph. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Cup final so no voting today. Willock scored a D+ which is quite a ways off where I think a number of us expected him to be not long ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vedder Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago They’ll all be A’s forever after today. HTL! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago All on cusp of legendary status. Everything forever forgiven. (Would hate to be Anthony Gordon today). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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