Yoane Wissa

[BennyBlanco]

Personally I’d much rather us pay the £60m for sesko and bed him in for when we inevitably lose Isak next summer.

 

Im not saying wissa isn’t worth the outlay of £30m+ I just think Sesko has more longevity and a higher ceiling with the right coaching.

[TRon]

41 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Wissa has proven himself in which champions league? 

 

Imo we need someone who can come in and improve season over season. Someone who is ideally 24 or younger but can come in and make an instant impact and learn from one of the best strikers in Europe. 

 

Someone along the lines of Tino or Hall who have had the benefit of training with Trips day and day out. 

 

Orsula is very raw because his development throughout his career hasn't been great. He barely played for a struggling Sheffield United side and continues to barely play for us. Obviously we need someone who's further along than that. 

 

 

Wissa has proven himself in the PL which in itself means that increases our chances of getting another CL spot next season. Normally I would agree with buying a younger player, but I wouldn't want to hang my hat on Isak staying fit again for the majority of this season. 

 

Wissa is money we won't get back on the transfer fee, but I would feel a lot more confident of going head to head with Chelsea or Arsenal with Wissa than some unproven striker who Howe would probably be reluctant to start anyway. 

[Gawalls]

1 minute ago, TRon said:

 

 

Wissa has proven himself in the PL which in itself means that increases our chances of getting another CL spot next season. Normally I would agree with buying a younger player, but I wouldn't want to hang my hat on Isak staying fit again for the majority of this season. 

 

Wissa is money we won't get back on the transfer fee, but I would feel a lot more confident of going head to head with Chelsea or Arsenal with Wissa than some unproven striker who Howe would probably be reluctant to start anyway. 

Haven’t you read the last dozen or do pages - when buying a goal scorer, his ability to score goals isn’t important and you shouldn’t buy your goal scorer simply because he can score goals.

[Rich]

I’m choosing to look at it as him being five years (4.5) younger than Wilson and a whole lot less injury prone, rather than fretting about him being almost 29. Seems a significant upgrade to me, and that’s naturally going to cost us.

[sushimonster85]

18 minutes ago, BennyBlanco said:

Personally I’d much rather us pay the £60m for sesko and bed him in for when we inevitably lose Isak next summer.

 

Im not saying wissa isn’t worth the outlay of £30m+ I just think Sesko has more longevity and a higher ceiling with the right coaching.

 

It's too big a risk. The whole point of buying younger talent from Europe is to get them before they get te Sesko's level of attention. So you're paying 30-40 rather than 60+. Wissa at 40m makes way more sense than Sesko at 60. Proven PL goals, doesn't need to bed in. 

[McCormick]

20 minutes ago, BennyBlanco said:

Personally I’d much rather us pay the £60m for sesko and bed him in for when we inevitably lose Isak next summer.

 

Im not saying wissa isn’t worth the outlay of £30m+ I just think Sesko has more longevity and a higher ceiling with the right coaching.

Sesko will want at least 200k a week. We can’t have both him and Isak on our books at the same time. 

[r0cafella]

10 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

 

Wissa has proven himself in the PL which in itself means that increases our chances of getting another CL spot next season. Normally I would agree with buying a younger player, but I wouldn't want to hang my hat on Isak staying fit again for the majority of this season. 

 

Wissa is money we won't get back on the transfer fee, but I would feel a lot more confident of going head to head with Chelsea or Arsenal with Wissa than some unproven striker who Howe would probably be reluctant to start anyway. 

He's a Good player no denying that. My points are it may turnout to be expensive and he will lack sell on value. 

 

We should be looking at younger alternatives, I've made the point before but in our position we want to be able to pick and choose who we sell at any given time to make the most of market opportunities. 

 

We are not in a position where we are adding the final piece to the puzzle, ffp changes the entire dynamic of how we can operate in the transfer market. Take a look at our squad for example if we were tight on ffp and needed to raise funds we'd be forced into selling one of the players we really don't want to sell because we have a high of squad players who are ageing. 

[madras]

Just now, McCormick said:

Sesko will want at least 200k a week. We can’t have both him and Isak on our books at the same time. 

And Targett.

[Nucasol]

2 minutes ago, Rich said:

I’m choosing to look at it as him being five years (4.5) younger than Wilson and a whole lot less injury prone, rather than fretting about him being almost 29. Seems a significant upgrade to me, and that’s naturally going to cost us.

Spot on. We signed Wilson for £20m at close to the same age with a worse fitness record (2 major knee ops) when fees were lower. Factoring in fee inflation and the fact we have an outlet to flog him to KSA, I’d pay £35m plus a chunk of add ons.

[r0cafella]

3 minutes ago, Rich said:

I’m choosing to look at it as him being five years (4.5) younger than Wilson and a whole lot less injury prone, rather than fretting about him being almost 29. Seems a significant upgrade to me, and that’s naturally going to cost us.

No fretting we can and should aim to use our resources better that's all. 

 

But let's see how much the fee is if agreed and how long the contract is and that will dictate the cost and can be used as a point of comparison. 

[Rich]

Just now, r0cafella said:

No fretting we can and should aim to use our resources better that's all. 

 

But let's see how much the fee is if agreed and how long the contract is and that will dictate the cost and can be used as a point of comparison. 

If all of the other players we sign this summer are of the type you’re hoping for, do you think you’d be more okay with one buy that doesn’t fit the ideal profile?

[TRon]

4 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

He's a Good player no denying that. My points are it may turnout to be expensive and he will lack sell on value. 

 

We should be looking at younger alternatives, I've made the point before but in our position we want to be able to pick and choose who we sell at any given time to make the most of market opportunities. 

 

We are not in a position where we are adding the final piece to the puzzle, ffp changes the entire dynamic of how we can operate in the transfer market. Take a look at our squad for example if we were tight on ffp and needed to raise funds we'd be forced into selling one of the players we really don't want to sell because we have a high of squad players who are ageing. 

 

 

If we were operating like Brighton or Bournemouth I would agree, and I think that was where Eales was trying to take us. Financially it's the prudent approach. But we are a CL club and I don't want us to lower our standards at a time where we are still going toe to toe with the cartel clubs. If I'm Eddie Howe I don't want to back down either. 

 

 

Edited July 24, 2025 by TRon

[bobbydazzla]

1 hour ago, r0cafella said:

Pick a striker who is score more than 15 goals in any top 5 leagues and is below 24. 

 

Alternatively pick someone younger. Who can develop.

 

Options exist. 

And if the club doesn’t want to sell or the player doesn’t want to join or other clubs more attractive than NUFC want to sign the player ? 
 

Signing footballers isn’t like a brothel where you just walk in, pay the money, choose who you fancy and then do the nasty. Which is what I’ve heard happens in brothels 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 24, 2025 by bobbydazzla

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, Rich said:

If all of the other players we sign this summer are of the type you’re hoping for, do you think you’d be more okay with one buy that doesn’t fit the ideal profile?

Good question, if we fill all of the gaps with players of the profile mentioned then yes, I think an exception would be ok. (Speaking personally to avoid any doubt) 

 

But for me, we need a keeper, some more cover at full back. A starting centre half and a CM. And maybe I have little faith but I'm not seeing it man. 

[Rich]

Just now, r0cafella said:

Good question, if we fill all of the gaps with players of the profile mentioned then yes, I think an exception would be ok. (Speaking personally to avoid any doubt) 

 

But for me, we need a keeper, some more cover at full back. A starting centre half and a CM. And maybe I have little faith but I'm not seeing it man. 

I still reckon we get those all done with quality players bar the FB, which I’m not too worried about compared to the other positions.

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, bobbydazzla said:

And if the club doesn’t want to sell or the player doesn’t want to join or other clubs more attractive than NUFC want to sign the player ? 
 

Signing footballers isn’t like a brothel where you just walk in, pay the money, choose who you fancy and then do the nasty. Which is what I’ve heard happens in brothels 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Your absolutely right it is not but again let's not pretend that Wissa is the only striker who's available to buy this summer. 

[r0cafella]

Just now, Rich said:

I still reckon we get those all done with quality players bar the FB, which I’m not too worried about compared to the other positions.

Your a canny fella, going to feed off some of your positively, sincerely. 

[TRon]

1 minute ago, r0cafella said:

Your absolutely right it is not but again let's not pretend that Wissa is the only striker who's available to buy this summer. 

 

 

But when I asked you to name one you didn't come up with any. That alone tells you it's not that easy to take a punt on a relative unknown. 

[r0cafella]

Just now, TRon said:

 

 

But when I asked you to name one you didn't come up with any. That alone tells you it's not that easy to take a punt on a relative unknown. 

We have scouts. 

 

You can punt Sesko or Openda, guessed, goncalo Ramos you can dig out lots of names. 

[bobbydazzla]

1 minute ago, r0cafella said:

Your absolutely right it is not but again let's not pretend that Wissa is the only striker who's available to buy this summer. 

He’s obviously the one that NUFC believe ticks the most boxes in terms of availability, position, price, willingness to join, good attitude, fit with squad and technical ability 
 

We’re clearly incredibly selective and prefer quality over quantity and since the takeover we’ve got an excellent success rate so I think they know what they’re doing 

[r0cafella]

Just now, bobbydazzla said:

He’s obviously the one that NUFC believe ticks the most boxes in terms of availability, position, price, willingness to join, good attitude, fit with squad and technical ability 
 

We’re clearly incredibly selective and prefer quality over quantity and since the takeover we’ve got an excellent success rate so I think they know what they’re doing 

Yes, he's obviously one the manager likes as he's premier league proven (nothing wrong with this) but ultimately we can't always get the managers preference. The manager will likely not have a full understanding or amortisation or squad cost as the nature of the managers job is very much a focus on short term goals. 

 

It's why I mentioned as a club we really need to have a collaborative approach which involves trust across the entire team. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

11 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

 

If we were operating like Brighton or Bournemouth I would agree, and I think that was where Eales was trying to take us. Financially it's the prudent approach. But we are a CL club and I don't want us to lower our standards at a time where we are still going toe to toe with the cartel clubs. If I'm Eddie Howe I don't want to back down either. 

 

 

 

This is the biggest problem we have TBH. Financially we need to operate smartly but quality wise we need the top level. 
 

Long term I’m hoping for a system which identifies and makes profit on young signings but we will always need ready-made players to come in as well. If we want to compete for the top 4 rather than the top 10. 

[nufcjmc]

7 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

We have scouts. 

 

You can punt Sesko or Openda, guessed, goncalo Ramos you can dig out lots of names. 

Agreed it's a balancing act do you back Eddie to develop a 22 or 23 year old of course you do but will it be a hall and osula type of never playing year 1. Do you spend more potentially abroad and they dont adapt to the league. No transfer is without risk and the rewards of prem proven are big especially if the aspiration is back to back champions league qualification. 

 

What happened to Boniface?

 

If sesko is 60m at 22 I feel he's a better longer term choice especially as most assume isak is likely away in a year. However totally get the club have multiple positions to fill and are leaning on a immediate sure thing. 

 

 

Edited July 24, 2025 by nufcjmc

[bobbydazzla]

6 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Yes, he's obviously one the manager likes as he's premier league proven (nothing wrong with this) but ultimately we can't always get the managers preference. The manager will likely not have a full understanding or amortisation or squad cost as the nature of the managers job is very much a focus on short term goals. 

 

It's why I mentioned as a club we really need to have a collaborative approach which involves trust across the entire team. 

Why do you believe we don’t have a collaborative approach ? 
 

I think there’s very few people who have genuine insight into how our transfers are handled 

 

The main person who’s spoken about it publicly is Mitchell and the consensus is that he’s a self serving gobshite 
 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 24, 2025 by bobbydazzla

[mondonewc]

Regards his contract, I might've missed someone pointing this out but pretty sure I read somewhere Brentford have the option of another year? If so, price they want seems fair, if you supported them would you be happy selling him at that price? It feasibly could be the difference between them staying up or not.