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4 minutes ago, HayDen Traces said:

I also think that if we let Isak go this summer it sets a dangerous precedent both with our rivals (who think they can nick our best players when they want) & our existing squad (who can stamp their feet and agitate for a move)

 IF they do sell  it'll only be when we have 2 strikers in and the offer meets our valuation of the player (£150 million +) I expect him to be here until next season.  Be glad when this is sorted one way or another.

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Really want Wissa now.

 

Fine no sell on value etc etc, but he's a proven PL striker who would love a chance to play in a top half PL team and will get plenty of minutes over, say, 3 years plus the CL to see out his career.

 

Just a back up to Isak or to someone else?

 

Well actually no, he'd be playing plenty of games and quite often as no9 with Isak's injury record. And again, more if we buy an understudy to Isak that needs a year or two to settle depending on how that shambles all goes. 

 

I'd be more confident in him than Sesko day 1, put it that way.

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17 minutes ago, HayDen Traces said:

I also think that if we let Isak go this summer it sets a dangerous precedent both with our rivals (who think they can nick our best players when they want) & our existing squad (who can stamp their feet and agitate for a move)

 

Exactly, selling this summer has so many downsides and very few positives. 

 

Wheras putting our foot down and holding him for another season looks like exactly the opposite

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11 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said:

 IF they do sell  it'll only be when we have 2 strikers in and the offer meets our valuation of the player (£150 million +) I expect him to be here until next season.  Be glad when this is sorted one way or another.

 

This is about the only scenario I can somewhat stomach. Both players in, signed sealed and delivered, and we force Liverpool to pay through the roof.

 

Unfortunately I don't think that will be the case. Feel like we'll bring in a striker, sell Isak in 130 range, and then scramble around til the end of the window trying to bring in another.

 

Hope im wrong

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10 minutes ago, Abacus said:

Really want Wissa now.

 

Fine no sell on value etc etc, but he's a proven PL striker who would love a chance to play in a top half PL team and will get plenty of minutes over, say, 3 years plus the CL to see out his career.

 

Just a back up to Isak or to someone else?

 

Well actually no, he'd be playing plenty of games and quite often as no9 with Isak's injury record. And again, more if we buy an understudy to Isak that needs a year or two to settle depending on how that shambles all goes. 

 

I'd be more confident in him than Sesko day 1, put it that way.

I'd love us to get Wissa. Whether its Isak or Sesko in the squad. He'd give Sesko time to settle or keep Isak honest if he's half arsing early on in the season

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1 minute ago, Palestoon said:

 

This is about the only scenario I can somewhat stomach. Both players in, signed sealed and delivered, and we force Liverpool to pay through the roof.

 

Unfortunately I don't think that will be the case. Feel like we'll bring in a striker, sell Isak in 130 range, and then scramble around til the end of the window trying to bring in another.

 

Hope im wrong

That would be because we chose to gamble.  Why would we do that. I don't think (hope)we would shoot ourselves in the foot. Again we do hold all the cards.

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3 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

That Mail article on Isak saying that ‘progress is expected’ on Wissa this week.  

They have the same situation as us. As soon as they find a replacement hes out.

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22 minutes ago, Abacus said:

Really want Wissa now.

 

Fine no sell on value etc etc, but he's a proven PL striker who would love a chance to play in a top half PL team and will get plenty of minutes over, say, 3 years plus the CL to see out his career.

 

Just a back up to Isak or to someone else?

 

Well actually no, he'd be playing plenty of games and quite often as no9 with Isak's injury record. And again, more if we buy an understudy to Isak that needs a year or two to settle depending on how that shambles all goes. 

 

I'd be more confident in him than Sesko day 1, put it that way.

Yeah if we get him and Sesko I'm thinking that he would be the one starting with Sesko being eased in.

Wissa surely is the most proven atm.

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13 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

That Mail article on Isak saying that ‘progress is expected’ on Wissa this week.  

Can’t beat a bit of expected progress that doesn’t come to fruition. My favourite transfer window trope 

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29 minutes ago, Abacus said:

Really want Wissa now.

 

Fine no sell on value etc etc, but he's a proven PL striker

I think its fine going for a no sell on value player, if the other is young. Going for Wissa and Watkins on the other hand is not good.

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22 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said:

That would be because we chose to gamble.  Why would we do that. I don't think (hope)we would shoot ourselves in the foot. Again we do hold all the cards.

 

Just a feeling. Could be totally off base, but the vibes im getting is we expect him to go. 

 

Clubs that really don't want to sell aren't as active in the market as we are.

Think about it, we're now on our 4th choice striker of the summer.

 

And if hope is right, we'll move onto our 5th in Ramos if Sesko rejects us.

 

That's not how clubs who are comfortable with a player staying behave. We would have simply told Liverpool/Isak, sorry, we lost out on our priority targets (one you hijacked from us) Isak is staying.

 

Instead it looks like we're desperately trying to bring his replacements in so we can green light the move.

 

Hope im wrong, and the Club is looking to strengthen rather than replace but I doubt it. Time will tell

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Palestoon said:

 

Just a feeling. Could be totally off base, but the vibes im getting is we expect him to go. 

 

Clubs that really don't want to sell aren't as active in the market as we are.

Think about it, we're now on our 4th choice striker of the summer.

 

And if hope is right, we'll move onto our 5th in Ramos if Sesko rejects us.

 

That's not how clubs who are comfortable with a player staying behave. We would have simply told Liverpool/Isak, sorry, we lost out on our priority targets (one you hijacked from us) Isak is staying.

 

Instead it looks like we're desperately trying to bring his replacements in so we can green light the move.

 

Hope im wrong, and the Club is looking to strengthen rather than replace but I doubt it. Time will tell

 

 

 

As you know we need a striker minimum even IF Isak is staying. We could end up with both Sesko/Isak, buy Wissa with a view to shipping Isak next summer when there may be a bidding war for him.

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3 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said:

As you know we need a striker minimum even IF Isak is staying. We could end up with both Sesko/Isak, buy Wissa with a view to shipping Isak next summer when there may be a bidding war for him.

 

I hope that's the case brother. Just want us to be proactive rather than reactive. There's no reason we shouldn't be doing what's in the clubs best interest first and foremost.

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Just now, Palestoon said:

 

I hope that's the case brother. Just want us to be proactive rather than reactive. There's no reason we shouldn't be doing what's in the clubs best interest first and foremost.

Another few weeks of this and hopefully its done one way or another.

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10 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said:

As you know we need a striker minimum even IF Isak is staying. We could end up with both Sesko/Isak, buy Wissa with a view to shipping Isak next summer when there may be a bidding war for him.

Would put us in a very vulnerable position if we need to sell before juli. Isak may still refuse any other than Liverpool.

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1 minute ago, Displayname said:

Would put us in a very vulnerable position if we need to sell before juli. Isak may still refuse any other than Liverpool.

Things can happen but I would expect him to get better if not stay as good as he is over another season.

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1 minute ago, PauloGeordio said:

Things can happen but I would expect him to get better if not stay as good as he is over another season.

Wouldn't change the fact that we would be in a weak position if we need to sell to avoid breeching PSR.

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Isak Šeško Wissa Osula

Gordon Elanga Barnes Murphy

Bruno Tonali Joelinton Paqueta Miley Willock

Livramento Hall Trippier Targett Krafth 

Botman Scalvini Schar Burn Lascelles

Ramsdale Pope Ruddy 

 

Title challenging 27 man squad. Miley doesn’t count so we have one extra that could go out on loan eg Osula or one that could be sold eg Targett or Lascelles

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1 hour ago, Abacus said:

Really want Wissa now.

 

Fine no sell on value etc etc, but he's a proven PL striker who would love a chance to play in a top half PL team and will get plenty of minutes over, say, 3 years plus the CL to see out his career.

 

Just a back up to Isak or to someone else?

 

Well actually no, he'd be playing plenty of games and quite often as no9 with Isak's injury record. And again, more if we buy an understudy to Isak that needs a year or two to settle depending on how that shambles all goes. 

 

I'd be more confident in him than Sesko day 1, put it that way.

I agree with all of this except the bit where there might not be a sell on value.

 

If you buy him for even as high as £40 million, play him for a couple of years scoring goals regularly (which he surely would) he could still be sold on for over £20 million which would just about get money back plus a little pocket change.  If we ever actually played the Saudi card you could even net a nice £10 million PSR "profit" on him.

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