The College Dropout Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 1 hour ago, toon25 said: Wish we were more creative in finding targets This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 51 minutes ago, The Bonk said: Same team that couldn’t realize Mo Salah’s talents among others. So leaning into a bias opinion is the best way to judge a player? I don’t think it works that way, mate. Granted, there are exceptions. Wed have all said Matz Sells was rubbish, but he was one of the best keepers in the league last year. As a rule though, if people watching him week in, week out are saying he isn't good enough, I'm inclined to trust their judgement for the most part. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 32 minutes ago, Kooiman said: We've been done by the narrative this summer. Facts and truth are diverging in my opinion. We've been made to seem disorganized or like we're unappealing (the talk of knowing our place in the food chains is nauseating). In reality, we've tried to show ambition after our best season in living memory. We lost Ekitike to the league champions, we lost Joao Pedro to a team in London that no doubt offered more and have actually spent an outrageous amount in several years. We lost Mbeumo to a club that was willing to pay him 250k a week if reports are to be believed. The same club has Jadon Sancho on more and Antony on 100k a week just gathering dust. We simply can't afford that type of wastage. Liverpool just sold a striker to Saudi Arabia at a heavy loss in the same summer they bought Ekitike for a smidge more—knowing no one in Europe would match the price Saudi were offering. I get when fans mock us, that's the point of fandom, but when writers/talking heads don't apply critical thinking as to why we're obsessed with good financial governance I end up confused. Particularly when those same people want to mock us for not wasting money on inferior options outside of the lists we spent months/years curating. I'm certainly not saying the club did everything right, that's impossible, but I don't think they've drunkenly stumbled through the window either. Stop talking so much sense man. Don't you know only negative comments are allowed on here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 2 minutes ago, Rod said: Stop talking so much sense man. Don't you know only negative comments are allowed on here? Hey Rod. Whats there to be positive about? Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 Just now, Weezertron said: Hey Rod. Whats there to be positive about? Cheers. We finished 5th last season and won a cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinstonFC Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 I know odds mean nothing but we are 2/7 to sign this punk. All based on the ramblings of that spanner Jacobs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahoneys Tache Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 Just now, Rod said: We finished 5th last season and won a cup. And we’ve still got the best British coach since Ferguson. And we’ll get players in before the end of the window. And we’ll finish top five. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kooiman Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 25 minutes ago, Erikse said: I agree that we tried to show ambition. The intention was good, but evidently it may have been too much too soon? Were these players realistically going to pick us? I'd say no for most of them. It's a good question and goes back to a post I made a while back; which phase are we in? To your point, we're not able to offer a better situation than say Liverpool/Chelsea/Man City, unless we're actively pitching as a stepping stone which I hate. Then you're talking about the players that Aston Villa and teams aspiring for the spots in 6-10th want. MY question is, are they good enough to consistently get you into the top four? It's so hard to compare to the last team to do this (Man City) because there's less space on the dancefloor than when they did it. They also cycled through players at a rapid rate in the early years. For every David Silva and Vincent Kompany there was a Jerome Boateng and a Steven Jovetic. Their miss rate decreased as they got smarter, but that's because they learned about shopping at that end of the market. The perfect run required now feels almost unattainable, especially when much of it is funded by selling some of your success stories to rivals. Liverpool fans love citing Coutinho, but they were also Liverpool with masive revenue streams and less scrutiny. That's why I feel we're being boxed in to signing lads like Nicolas Jackson, who to be frank, we know will never be a 20 goal a season striker. We're being asked to make do with misfit toys while selling our best player to a team that didn't take a risk on him in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 Got to say, the striker pool is so poor that I think Jackson is comfortably in the top 10 list across the continent to replace Isak. He has some good attributes imo but his head may be the biggest blocker to it all - he goes on like an absolute knacker far too much. Not sure if he had the same disciplinary problems under Emery? Maybe playing for a shithouse club brought the worst out of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 10 minutes ago, Rod said: We finished 5th last season and won a cup. Old news, baby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 It's happening isn't it? The world's biggest cucking is about to occur Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 1 hour ago, toon25 said: Wish we were more creative in finding targets While I agree, the striker market is limited. It's why everyone is after the same targets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Magpie Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 2 minutes ago, Paully said: £60m at a push, we should defo not go anywhere over that. Mental how we were in for Pedro and Delap and now could end up with Chelseas 3rd choice striker as our Isak replacement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 Keep Isak. Spend 50-60m on Jackson as his backup/rotation/partner. Move Isak next summer, go and sign another striker next summer. Be happy with that. As i said before, Jackson needs work but he presses well, plays transition football well, and believe Howe's team would fix many of his issues in due time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 We cannot replace Isak with Jackson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 Feels like with the way this summer is going Chelsea would feasibly open up discussions with us while offering him a new contract for LESS WAGES just so Fab can say HE ONLY WANTS TO STAY AT CHELSEA to keep the humiliation going Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 1 hour ago, toon25 said: Wish we were more creative in finding targets We're pretty creative when losing them though! (matt targett in Korea joke. try the fish) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 Just now, Kanj said: Keep Isak. Spend 50-60m on Jackson as his backup/rotation/partner. Move Isak next summer, go and sign another striker next summer. Be happy with that. As i said before, Jackson needs work but he presses well, plays transition football well, and believe Howe's team would fix many of his issues in due time. That takes us north of 100m spent leaving us with 50m max to fill our other gaps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 We have left so much money on the table as well by not sponsoring everything we could have. This summer has been a proper reality check, brutal stuff for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Magpie Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 Just now, r0cafella said: That takes us north of 100m spent leaving us with 50m max to fill our other gaps. Could probably get Thiaw and Rudoni for about £50/60m combined. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 Would take on a loan with option, can’t see Chelsea going for it mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 1 minute ago, r0cafella said: That takes us north of 100m spent leaving us with 50m max to fill our other gaps. i assume you're thinking we have 150m to spend based on the various sources in the internet? chelsea prob need more head room next season - loan with option to buy could suit us and them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 Just now, Geordie Magpie said: Could probably get Thiaw and Rudoni for about £50/60m combined. Rudoni is a gamble isn't he keep hearing the name mentioned but don't hear any other clubs linked with him. I know this forum has a hardon for our own Morgan Rodgers but the profile doesn't seem to be similar at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 Just now, Kanj said: i assume you're thinking we have 150m to spend based on the various sources in the internet? chelsea prob need more head room next season - loan with option to buy could suit us and them. Yeah and my own gut feeling was saying this figure before it was reported. Chelsea have no issues, they've sold lots of players and have cl and club world cup money. Tbh psr is dead people should stop thinking of it as a constraint too many loopholes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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