Samu Aghehowa

[Andy84]

3 minutes ago, gdm said:

I’m not getting the strand Larsen hype at all certainly not as an Isak replacement. Several levels down 

That’s the problem, the drop in quality is massive whoever it is. He’s irreplaceable but even harder in this market. The only  ones even close were Gyokeres and Sesko, we went for one of them and missed out. Thats why Samu feels worth It, he’s the youngest and seems the most interesting. Think I’d prefer Jackson over Larsen. 

 

 

Edited August 9, 2025 by Andy84

[Keegans Export]

10 minutes ago, Menace said:

By the sounds of it it'll probably be Wissa and Jackson/Samu which I'd be very happy with to be fair. Those Muniz rumours were absolutely nonsense, even Leeds didn't want to go back on their £30M offer.

Wissa and Jackson makes no sense with ACN around the corner. We're going to spend the best part of £100m on two strikers who will quite possibly both be unavailable during the busiest time of the season?

[SUPERTOON]

3 minutes ago, gdm said:

I’m not getting the strand Larsen hype at all certainly not as an Isak replacement. Several levels down 

I think the clubs view, is if say we get Wissa and Larsen, then combined they will outscore Isak and Wilson from last season. Not saying I agree with it mind.

[TheBrownBottle]

2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

I think the clubs view, is if say we get Wissa and Larsen, then combined they will outscore Isak and Wilson from last season. Not saying I agree with it mind.

Wissa wasn’t exactly a million miles away, and playing in a weaker side

[r0cafella]

2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

I think the clubs view, is if say we get Wissa and Larsen, then combined they will outscore Isak and Wilson from last season. Not saying I agree with it mind.

By pissing 100m up the wall on two players whom we will never get that back. Would be top work by all involved. 

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, r0cafella said:

By pissing 100m up the wall on two players whom we will never get that back. Would be top work by all involved. 

As I said, I don’t agree with it, but I think that’s their view (I may be completely wrong of course).

[KaKa]

51 minutes ago, Andy84 said:

From Hope’s video he says they like him but we maybe put off by his the numbers, his age and he’s only had one season in Portugal. Strand Larsen seems more likely 

 

After another season in Portugal and some good turnouts for Spain, he will be a striker we will never have a chance of signing as all the usual suspects will be able to muscle in, in front of us.

 

I think because we're bringing in Wissa as well who is more experienced and has performed at a high level in the Premier League, this is the kind of striker we should try and get in now as a second option, while we still have a realistic chance of doing so.

 

I like Strand Larsen, but that would be playing it a bit safe as the alternative to Wissa I think. It would give us two very capable Premier League performers, and there'd be far more of a guarantee in the short term with both, but the tandem would lack somewhat of a special x factor to some degree, as Samu's physical and athletic profile can be overwhelming and there is so much more room for growth still with him.

 

I can understand the dilemma the recruitment team are facing, especially with that Swedish prat acting up the way he is and with us likely losing him now, but for me I'd be looking at Wissa and Samu instead.

[r0cafella]

2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

As I said, I don’t agree with it, but I think that’s their view (I may be completely wrong of course).

If we do walk down this path of short termism then it's a clear change in direction mind. Let's see I don't want to judge before it actually happens

[lovejoy]

6 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

I think the clubs view, is if say we get Wissa and Larsen, then combined they will outscore Isak and Wilson from last season. Not saying I agree with it mind.

This is exactly the view. Replace the pair and get a higher goal return as a result.

 

isak will be replaced in the aggregate.

[Mole]

From everything I'm reading the club seem deathly afraid of taking even minor risks so they're ending up with players who quite frankly have very limited ceilings.

 

If the plan is to break into the top 4 consistently, I don't see how you achieve that with low ceiling, relatively high floor signings.

 

Could be wrong of course because it's just media talk but that's the vibe I get.

[kingxlnc]

Just now, lovejoy said:

This is exactly the view. Replace the pair and get a higher goal return as a result.

 

isak will be replaced in the aggregate.

Moneyball - x many goals to replace in the team

 

Elanga Murphy Gordon and Barnes are already highly productive wingers

 

Isak got 20 plus goals twice. 
Wilson got zero but previously you would say he can get 10.

 

can Wissa and Samu get 15 each whilst the wingers get more beteeen them

 

would have liked to have gotten a goal scoring midfielder or even 10 if possible. Our midfielders don’t get enough currently 

[Andy84]

2 minutes ago, lovejoy said:

This is exactly the view. Replace the pair and get a higher goal return as a result.

 

isak will be replaced in the aggregate.

This never works imo. Can see the logic but the drop off in quality is so much 

[lovejoy]

Just now, kingxlnc said:

Moneyball - x many goals to replace in the team

 

Elanga Murphy Gordon and Barnes are already highly productive wingers

 

Isak got 20 plus goals twice. 
Wilson got zero but previously you would say he can get 10.

 

can Wissa and Samu get 15 each whilst the wingers get more beteeen them

 

would have liked to have gotten a goal scoring midfielder or even 10 if possible. Our midfielders don’t get enough currently 

see what happens with the midfield.

 

all the noise and anger at this summer is justified, but don’t forget the hit rate for the ones we do get is as good as any in football.

 

lets see what the next two weeks bring.

 

 

[KaKa]

Strand Larsen has just turned 25 this year for what it's worth, so it's not like he's Wissa's age or anything, but it's hard to imagine him taking the leaps in improvement and development someone like Samu could still make, while still being an absolute handful in the meantime like he showed against Premier League Man Utd last season.

[lovejoy]

2 minutes ago, Andy84 said:

This never works imo. Can see the logic but the drop off in quality is so much 

How does it never work?

 

if wissa and strand Larsen (for example) get 12 each next season, it’s worked.

 

wissa scored as many from open play as Isak last season don’t forget.

 

 

 

 

Edited August 9, 2025 by lovejoy

[Ghandis Flip-Flop]

8 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

By pissing 100m up the wall on two players whom we will never get that back. Would be top work by all involved. 

You see this kind of stuff is why I’m amazed the PFA haven’t challenged PSR on age discrimination grounds given it specifically disadvantages older players. Remember when clubs preferred to sign players at 27/28 because they were in their prime?

[lovejoy]

13 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

By pissing 100m up the wall on two players whom we will never get that back. Would be top work by all involved. 

we haven’t pissed anything up the wall since Howe has been in charge. We won’t be starting now.

 

But we’ll only be able to have this conversation in hindsight, we’ll just have to see how the replacements do I guess.

 

my bet is, whatever combo we go with, they beat the combo of last season in terms of a goal return.

[lovejoy]

2 minutes ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said:

You see this kind of stuff is why I’m amazed the PFA haven’t challenged PSR on age discrimination grounds given it specifically disadvantages older players. Remember when clubs preferred to sign players at 27/28 because they were in their prime?

Interesting point that. I’ve never thought of it that way.

[Holmesy]

stop considering stuff FFS! Just fucking do something.

[KaKa]

12 minutes ago, Mole said:

From everything I'm reading the club seem deathly afraid of taking even minor risks so they're ending up with players who quite frankly have very limited ceilings.

 

If the plan is to break into the top 4 consistently, I don't see how you achieve that with low ceiling, relatively high floor signings.

 

Could be wrong of course because it's just media talk but that's the vibe I get.

 

@Shadow Puppets talked a bit about how they are trying to nail down consistent European qualification, and especially Champions League qualification in order to bank that money more regularly as that will open things up for the club's growth much quicker.

 

Bringing in Wissa and Strand Larsen would make us very very capable in the Premier league as those two looked very comfortable scoring goals in the league in much lesser teams. I can understand the line of thinking.

 

However, for me personally I just don't think I would pass on Samu's potential, especially giving they were pushing so hard for Sesko beforehand.

 

 

 

 

Edited August 9, 2025 by KaKa

[Andy84]

5 minutes ago, lovejoy said:

How does it never work?

 

if wissa and strand Larsen (for example) get 12 each next season, it’s worked.

 

wissa scored as many from open play as Isak last season don’t forget.

 

 

 

 

 

Football isn’t as simple as player A scored this, player B scored this so add them together job done.  Isak is an absolutely world class striker on his day who brings more than goals. It’s much more nuanced than adding up goal figures.  We’re essentially going to be weakening our team massively 

 

 

Edited August 9, 2025 by Andy84

[sushimonster85]

5 minutes ago, KaKa said:

Strand Larsen has just turned 25 this year for what it's worth, so it's not like he's Wissa's age or anything, but it's hard to imagine him taking the leaps in improvement and development someone like Samu could still make, while still being an absolute handful in the meantime like he showed against Premier League Man Utd last season.

 

This does make sense. Though the caveat would be Strand Larsen improved as Wolves improved their manager. Which suggests he is coachable, and how well he does is likely tied to who is coaching him/how the team is set up.

[lovejoy]

1 minute ago, Andy84 said:

Football isn’t as simple as player A scored this, player B scored this so add them together job done.  Isak is an absolutely world class striker on his day who brings more than goals. It’s much more nuanced than adding up goal figures.  We’re essentially going to be weakening our team massively 

 

 

 

But there’s literally no alternative to selling arguably the best striker in the world if that’s your take.

 

so what do you expect us to do? Genuine question.

 

 

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, lovejoy said:

we haven’t pissed anything up the wall since Howe has been in charge. We won’t be starting now.

 

But we’ll only be able to have this conversation in hindsight, we’ll just have to see how the replacements do I guess.

 

my bet is, whatever combo we go with, they beat the combo of last season in terms of a goal return.

We have but not in a significant way All clubs have misses in the market no issues on that front. 

 

The point in making is more a long the lines of we have to targer players who can kick on and go up another level, I'm OK with Wissa as a rotation up providing the fee isn't daft but 65m on Larsen would have Wolves pissing themselves. Decent player no doubt but not one who's going to improve much or has outstanding qualities imo. 

[Andy84]

Just now, lovejoy said:

But there’s literally no alternative to selling arguably the best striker in the world if that’s your take.

 

so what do you expect us to do? Genuine question.

 

 

Nothing, you’re right. We’re fucked  but it’s true. 
 

I would like us to really add elite players at CB and CM to up the overall quality of the squad but I can’t see it. Sesko may have been the one.  You’re right we have to do something but we are going to be hugely weakened because of it