Benwell Lad Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Probably the most unpopular thread title since "Keep Souness" - but think about it. If Tim Krul maintains his progress he is soon going to need to be at least a No.2 keeper in a Premiership squad, that probably means if we're to keep him then one of the senior goalkeepers will have to make way. Shay Given is a top keeper and an excellent club man but in my opinion so is Steve Harper. I don't think there is much to seperate them but Shay has a stronger personality and made it clear he would not be No 2, while Harper has been content with that role. A lot of us rate them equally, but Shay would have a higher market value and I'd guess a much higher salary. Therefore would it make sense to cash in on him and invest the money elsewhere ? One thing is sure, when they're all fit, 3 into 2 won't go and something will have to give eventually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 One word - NO! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 He will put himself up for sale in the summer IMO. He wants to win something. Probably go to Arsenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest smoggeordie Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 By the time Given is 35-36 and ageing a bit, krul will be hitting 22/23, about the age when he will be ready for a regular first team spot. Looks like a natural progression to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stalker Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 I personally think Shay is in a different class to Harper. Maybe in a few years when Krul is ready to be a first team regular I'd selll Given but certainly not yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 I would sooner agree with a thread titled "support Sunderland." At least I can think up one good reason or so for that one. A. Keepers don't sell for much, the financial gain would be minimal. B. Harper is very good, but Shay is a friggin superhuman. C. It's not like he's 25 and will be keeping Krul out of the first team for the next 10 years or something. He'll be gone eventually when time calls. Before then? Let's content ourselves with counting our blessings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 By the time Given is 35-36 and ageing a bit, krul will be hitting 22/23, about the age when he will be ready for a regular first team spot. Looks like a natural progression to me. Would be good, but I've a feeling Krul will be looking for first team action sooner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eyeball_tickler Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 if i had my way........given 1st choice, harper 2nd, krul out on loan for a year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribble Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Shay is far better than Harper now. There was a time when there wasn't too much in it but due to all the games Given has played he is a class above our number 2. No way should we sell him, if anyone has to make way for Krul it will be Harper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross magoo Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 I'd rather set my pubes on fire and beat the flames out with a rusty axe than sell Given - he's one of the best keepers in the country. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 I'd rather set my pubes on fire and beat the flames out with a rusty axe than sell Given - he's one of the best keepers in the country. agree with this man but without the fire and axe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 If we are going to bring Igor Akinfeev instead the Ok but for now,Hell No,not in the next 2 years thats for sure.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 one if the top 3 keepers in the league. and of the main reasons we are not a Championship side. His kciking may be shite, and his command of his box poor, but we would NOT get a better keeper to come here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Krul is nowhere near ready yet. Given should be first choice for atleast the next 3 seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest smoggeordie Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Thats why, when Harper is fit, we should loan Krul out to a Championship club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 If we are going to bring Igor Akinfeev instead the Ok but for now,Hell No,not in the next 2 years thats for sure.. Like he would come here. Your not on FM now.. :roll: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TêteDeMaure Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 If he's one of the best in the country, surely that makes him one of the very best in the world? I think so, anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 He is the best in the League IMO. Put him behind Chelsea's defence (well maybe not this year ) and Chelsea would be unstopable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest teepee Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 probably the last player in our squad i'd sell..... gotta be a wind up this... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howaythelads Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Don't rate Harper, tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 I reckon Harper is a good no. 2 but he'd be found out if he had a long run in the side. In fact, I think he was a bit earlier this season. No way would I sell Seamus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest getalife Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Probably the most unpopular thread title since "Keep Souness" - but think about it. If Tim Krul maintains his progress he is soon going to need to be at least a No.2 keeper in a Premiership squad, that probably means if we're to keep him then one of the senior goalkeepers will have to make way. Shay Given is a top keeper and an excellent club man but in my opinion so is Steve Harper. I don't think there is much to seperate them but Shay has a stronger personality and made it clear he would not be No 2, while Harper has been content with that role. A lot of us rate them equally, but Shay would have a higher market value and I'd guess a much higher salary. Therefore would it make sense to cash in on him and invest the money elsewhere ? One thing is sure, when they're all fit, 3 into 2 won't go and something will have to give eventually. I think we can all thank our lucky stars you're not in charge mate, for even considering it. You're not actually Graeme Souness are you? Jesus Christ....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 no, he's much better than harper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 He is the best in the League IMO. Put him behind Chelsea's defence (well maybe not this year ) and Chelsea would be unstopable. Bullshit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howaythelads Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 He is the best in the League IMO. Put him behind Chelsea's defence (well maybe not this year ) and Chelsea would be unstopable. Bullshit How to argue your point, backing up your opinion....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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