Guest firetotheworks Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 When players that score about 3-10 goals a season on average do that 'it ain't no thang' celebration as if it's no big deal. It is mate, you rarely score...because you're not that good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 It's quite an obvious one, but the simplicity of football punditry. If you're not Gary Neville, you're pretty much anyone with eyes. Shearer and Hansen generally just play show and tell every Saturday and then describe things as good or bad. It's absolute garbage and now that we have someone like Neville, there should be efforts made to provide much more insight on other programmes. Redknapp, Hansen, Lawrenson, Shearer, Dixon, et al aren't making any real effort. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 It's quite an obvious one, but the simplicity of football punditry. If you're not Gary Neville, you're pretty much anyone with eyes. Shearer and Hansen generally just play show and tell every Saturday and then describe things as good or bad. It's absolute garbage and now that we have someone like Neville, there should be efforts made to provide much more insight on other programmes. Redknapp, Hansen, Lawrenson, Shearer, Dixon, et al aren't making any real effort. Totally agree, almost nobody offers any real insight... it's just a job for ex-footballers who don't know what else to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Spark Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 It's quite an obvious one, but the simplicity of football punditry. If you're not Gary Neville, you're pretty much anyone with eyes. Shearer and Hansen generally just play show and tell every Saturday and then describe things as good or bad. It's absolute garbage and now that we have someone like Neville, there should be efforts made to provide much more insight on other programmes. Redknapp, Hansen, Lawrenson, Shearer, Dixon, et al aren't making any real effort. I hate this about MOTD. They should show us smaller things that didn't make the highlights, instead of just repeating what we've already seen 5 minutes earlier and saying, "Yeah, this was dead good, like". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 It's quite an obvious one, but the simplicity of football punditry. If you're not Gary Neville, you're pretty much anyone with eyes. Shearer and Hansen generally just play show and tell every Saturday and then describe things as good or bad. It's absolute garbage and now that we have someone like Neville, there should be efforts made to provide much more insight on other programmes. Redknapp, Hansen, Lawrenson, Shearer, Dixon, et al aren't making any real effort. Totally agree, almost nobody offers any real insight... it's just a job for ex-footballers who don't know what else to do. The gulf between the standard of cricket and football 'punditry', highlighted in recent weeks, is frightening. Watching the cricket, I feel as if I'm learning more about the game, as well as being interested and entertained. Never felt that way with Peter Beagrie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 It's quite an obvious one, but the simplicity of football punditry. If you're not Gary Neville, you're pretty much anyone with eyes. Shearer and Hansen generally just play show and tell every Saturday and then describe things as good or bad. It's absolute garbage and now that we have someone like Neville, there should be efforts made to provide much more insight on other programmes. Redknapp, Hansen, Lawrenson, Shearer, Dixon, et al aren't making any real effort. Totally agree, almost nobody offers any real insight... it's just a job for ex-footballers who don't know what else to do. The gulf between the standard of cricket and football 'punditry', highlighted in recent weeks, is frightening. Watching the cricket, I feel as if I'm learning more about the game, as well as being interested and entertained. Never felt that way with Peter Beagrie. Football needs a Henry Blofeld. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 The problem is that most footballers know very little about tactics and the bigger picture about why a team has won or lost. Combined with the need to promote/jizz over whichever team or player is flavour of the month. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 It's quite an obvious one, but the simplicity of football punditry. If you're not Gary Neville, you're pretty much anyone with eyes. Shearer and Hansen generally just play show and tell every Saturday and then describe things as good or bad. It's absolute garbage and now that we have someone like Neville, there should be efforts made to provide much more insight on other programmes. Redknapp, Hansen, Lawrenson, Shearer, Dixon, et al aren't making any real effort. Totally agree, almost nobody offers any real insight... it's just a job for ex-footballers who don't know what else to do. The gulf between the standard of cricket and football 'punditry', highlighted in recent weeks, is frightening. Watching the cricket, I feel as if I'm learning more about the game, as well as being interested and entertained. Never felt that way with Peter Beagrie. I know what you mean but i think it's because cricket isn't as popular played so it's interesting to know when Shane Warne is choosing which ball is best out of box of balls or Strauss is showing you where your positioning of feet should be at the crease for certain types of bowls. Imagine Alan Shearer getting up in the studio showing the audience how a penalty should be taken. Just be cringe worthy. Was like when Andy Gray used to get up with Richard Keys then just grab his shirt of wraggle him all over the place showing how tight defenders should be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Isn't this what BT Sport are going to try and do with that pitch studio thing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Isn't this what BT Sport are going to try and do with that pitch studio thing? I've noticed it but i haven't actually seen James get his gloves on and Owen take his place in the box with macca out wide with the ball Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Spark Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Isn't this what BT Sport are going to try and do with that pitch studio thing? I've noticed it but i haven't actually seen James get his gloves on and Owen take his place in the box with macca out wide with the ball Owen scores and wheels away celebrating... "Well done, he's 43!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Unfortunately football's Henry Blofeld touched kids. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Unfortunately football's Henry Blofeld touched kids. I was thinking that myself. Although I think the main similarity is that they're both posh - I don't think Stewart Hall had anywhere near the level of knowledge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 http://i.imgur.com/QjbeEWF.jpg Proper love players appreciating a team mate after a goal. As you pointed out Nobby was fantastic at letting the everyone know who created that chance. One of my favourite ever Newcastle players. Was absolute quality. I would swap anyone in our current squad to have Nobby in his prime back in our team. That right foot was a wand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Newcastle are a team that play in front of 55,000 every week No. 52,000 Geordies No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Incognito Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Players ushering the ball out for goalkicks resulting in the attacker trying to wrap their leg around the defender to keep it in and both ending on the floor looking like a right mess It's obstruction everywhere else on the pitch too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Players ushering the ball out for goalkicks resulting in the attacker trying to wrap their leg around the defender to keep it in and both ending on the floor looking like a right mess It's obstruction everywhere else on the pitch too. I give a free kick as a ref, you can shield the ball off if you are within a yard or so of it. But you aren't supposed to obstruct the player, that to me means play him rather than the ball. As soon as a player move his body away from the ball into the player then i see it as a free kick, unless it's shoulder to shoulder (again another grey area). This really is another one of those ref opinion things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 That's my pet hate actually, things that would be blatant fouls anywhere else on the pitch being ignored in the box because the ref is too much of a pussy to give a big decision. If they manned up a little you would get a silly amount of penalties at first but it would eventually calm down and you wouldn't get all the fucking about during corners etc.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 That's my pet hate actually, things that would be blatant fouls anywhere else on the pitch being ignored in the box because the ref is too much of a pussy to give a big decision. If they manned up a little you would get a silly amount of penalties at first but it would eventually calm down and you wouldn't get all the fucking about during corners etc.. Yep i've been saying that for years, i'd give and do give pens for shirt pulling every single time. The thing that some ex pros come out with "we'd see ten penalties a game", So fucking what. Give them and it'll soon stop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 That's my pet hate actually, things that would be blatant fouls anywhere else on the pitch being ignored in the box because the ref is too much of a pussy to give a big decision. If they manned up a little you would get a silly amount of penalties at first but it would eventually calm down and you wouldn't get all the f***ing about during corners etc.. The one that gets me is a keeper coming out for crosses with his knee at shoulder height (dangerous play?) and when they come tear arsing out of goal to punch the ball, miss it, take the striker out...you never see a penalty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Is it really obstruction anywhere else on the pitch though? I always hear that but the defender technically has the right to not just move out of the way and let the forward collect the ball surely? If the ball was about 10 yards away then fair enough, you would be obstructing the path to the ball by holding your arms out like a lunatic, but I cannot see why you shouldn't be allowed to follow the path of the ball without allowing the attacker to nip in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 That's my pet hate actually, things that would be blatant fouls anywhere else on the pitch being ignored in the box because the ref is too much of a pussy to give a big decision. If they manned up a little you would get a silly amount of penalties at first but it would eventually calm down and you wouldn't get all the f***ing about during corners etc.. The one that gets me is a keeper coming out for crosses with his knee at shoulder height (dangerous play?) and when they come tear arsing out of goal to punch the ball, miss it, take the striker out...you never see a penalty. Good one, the protection keepers get. Come out, knee someone's head clean off, fall over and it's a foul in favour of the keeper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Pointless long range shots that go miles over the bar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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