Disco Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 I think Robson bought him without ever really considering where he was going to play. He came with a good reputation and was always going to be disillusioned playing out wide or not at all. After two years he looked like he'd given up and his performance in the semi final reflected that. I'd like to know what Robsons plans for him were or whether on signing him he quickly realised that Robert and Dyer were simply better players. Robson bought him as a replacement for Gary Speed. Those were SBR's words. You couldn't get more different. Zut Alors! In a lose way I can see the logic, employ him as a deep lying playmaker/water carrier (Speeds short passing game was atrocious) but with the lack of physicality he brought he was never going to be able to play a central role in a two man midfield where the other member was also weak as piss (JJ/Dyer) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 It must be really shit being a could have been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 It must be really shit being a could have been. TBF to the lad, he has played and scored in the Champions Lge, has 25 caps for his country, played at the World Cup and in a European final. He's not done that bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Always liked him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Speed's short passing game was atrocious? What a load of nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordie Boyo Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Was a great box to box and defensive midfielder for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Could have made a decent Riquelme-type player for someone if he'd had the right training and regular football. Certainly had the vision, technique and composure. Was never made for English football though, and has never looked like a central midfielder either; simply doesn't have the engine or strength for it. Shame really because I didn't dislike him as much as others did when he was here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 I always liked him, but never felt that it was a case of him ironing out his faults, more that he was who he was, and that was it. Like a Luis Garcia in that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Speed's short passing game was atrocious? What a load of nonsense. Maybe not atrocious but it certainly wasn't a strong point of his. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Speed's short passing game was atrocious? What a load of nonsense. Agreed - Speed was so underrated when he was playing for us, it was unbelievable. No way could his passing be regarded as atrocious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Speed's short passing game was atrocious? What a load of nonsense. Agreed - Speed was so underrated when he was playing for us, it was unbelievable. No way could his passing be regarded as atrocious. Didn't say i didn't rate him, in fact I rated him highly (just not his short passing game), you could tell how could he was when he left and we made a pigs ear of replacing him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Viana's problem here was his best position was left-midfield whether he liked it or not. Remember one game he came on against Blackburn when we won 5-2 (I think) and he was superb out left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 5-1 with 3 late goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 5-1 with 3 late goals. Fucking hell man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 He wasn't strong enough for the Premiership, but I thought he'd end up playing at a higher level than where he is now. It was a very strange buy, and one where I think Freddie took the lead, although Sir Bob was happy to agree to it. We already had Jenas as a young CM who needed to be blooded into the side. We were never going to be able to develop both as first team players in CM at the same time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 5-1 with 3 late goals. Yep, and I think 2 or 3 he was involved with even though he'd only been on the field about 20 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 I remember his fantastic cross for Bellamy which made it 5-1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Think he had a part in Aaron Hughes' goal too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Just checked and Hughes didn't score...could have sworn he did. There were three lovely touches from Viana in the last three goals. The excellent Aaron Hughes collected Viana's first pass and then teed up Jenas for a rifle that made it 3-1 on 85 minutes. Dyer picked up Viana's second, then forced Vratislav Gresko to score an own goal with Ameobi waiting. Viana himself supplied a sublime third inswinger for Craig Bellamy to lash in the fifth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Aye remember that game, comfortably his best performance in a toon shirt that i can remember. Classic Robson Newcastle that match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Think he was only on about 15-20 minutes as well, but was one of the best cameo performances I've seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Was it bollocks his best performance in a toon shirt. Home to Brum and Chelsea twice in consecutive seasons stick out. A fantastic ball to Bernard at the Gallowgate rounding off a magnificent game in particular. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Was it bollocks his best performance in a toon shirt. Home to Brum and Chelsea twice in consecutive seasons stick out. A fantastic ball to Bernard at the Gallowgate rounding off a magnificent game in particular. best goal of the season that the one against chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Aye, I loved Robert's against Everton too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Better than Shearer's v Everton though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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