AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Visiting the new Spurs stadium was heartbreaking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Boy Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Visiting the new Spurs stadium was heartbreaking. no it wasn't. it was a meccano set in the middle of a shithole. great 3 points though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 I didn't go for Newcastle, I went to another Spurs match. What I mean is, it was a club full of ambition, giving fans a great experience, everything done to very high quality. Exactly what we could be if we had a half-decent owner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 You could chuck £1b at Tottenham, the area would still be a shit hole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 You could chuck £1b at Tottenham, the area would still be a shit hole. I walked up the Lea Valley path as far as the North Circular the other week. Reminds me of Middlesborough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 I dunno, obviously I like London in general so I'm biased. It's poor and a bit rough, but it has some cool stuff too. That wasn't the point I was making anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 If St James’ was levelled and a new stadium built on the site, would there be enough land to increase the capacity to 70 or 80k? And if it happened, would the surrounding infrastructure be able to support an extra 20-30k? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 If St James’ was levelled and a new stadium built on the site, would there be enough land to increase the capacity to 70 or 80k? And if it happened, would the surrounding infrastructure be able to support an extra 20-30k? Interesting question actually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Be surprised. As you’d still be hamstrung by space and adjacent buildings. East Stand you’d have to dig down to rebuild any bigger as it cant go higher or further back. Gallowgate has a road behind it and also no land thanks our beloved owner. Milburn has a fairly main road behind it. Leazes you could fill your boots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/revealed-ingenious-plan-turn-st-16138611 seemed like the only way to do this would be to turn the stadium Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 I still have the original plans somewhere in my house. I shall try and find them. I attended an "Open Day" whereupon the Newcastle board showed animated pictures of how the stadium would look. It was all rather magnificent if I remember correctly. I was all for it at the time. Too late now. Newcastle United FC : New Stadium Plans. The 1997 Proposals . . . There have been many proposals over the years (and over the centuries!) for Newcastle United Football Club to either build a new stadium at St James' Park, or to build a new stadium elsewhere. These various proposals are clearly ideal "Newcastle as it might have been" articles, for inclusion on this thread. Just to be different, this time I thought I would start with the most recent set of unrealised plans, and work my way backwards. So, here is No. 1 . . . the 1997 proposals to build a new stadium a few hundred yards away from St James' Park, on "Castle Leazes Moor". To get a CLEAR idea of where this stadium was to be built. At the top of this aerial photo, Castle Leazes Moor and St James' Park, can both be seen . . http://www.freemenofnewcastle.com/images/MoorsNorthWestLarge.jpg Here are the clubs plans (seen from above) for the new stadium on Castle Leazes Moor on the left, with the (St James' Park cut-in-half) St James' Centre, shown on the right . . http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/NewcastleUnitedFC-1997NewGroundPlan.jpg A view of the proposed new stadium, at the 'South East' corner, nearest to Leazes Park lake . . http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/NewcastleUnitedFC-1997NewGroundP-6.jpg Another view of the proposed 'Castle Leazes Moor' stadium . . http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/NewcastleUnitedFC-1997NewGroundP-5.jpg This sketch shows the proposed 'Leazes Way' walkway through the enlarged Leazes Park, that would have lead from the new "St James Centre" (proposed indoor stadium on site of St James Park) to the new stadium on Castle Leazes Moor . . http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/NewcastleUnitedFC-1997NewGroundP-2.jpg Another sketch of the proposed stadium, from Leazes park . . http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/NewcastleUnitedFC-1997NewGroundP-1.jpg The "ST JAMES' CENTRE" . . . was an important part of the overall plan. This was to be an indoor stadium on the site of the current St James' Park. The South Stand and South West corner would remain as they were, the East and Milburn stands would be demolished, and the Sir John Hall stand and corners would be dismantled and re-erected closer to the remaining 'South Stand', to form the indoor stadium . . as shown, with the building over Strawberry Place linking to the 'new build' over St James' Park Metro Station . . http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/NewcastleUnitedFC-1997NewGroundP-4.jpg One of the envisaged advantages of the 'reduced size' St James' Park/Centre, to the immediate area, would be the extended Leazes Park, as shown here where it is overlooked by Leazes Terrace, at the point where the demolished 'East Stand' used to be . . http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/NewcastleUnitedFC-1997NewGroundP-3.jpg Now, the above plans and proposals, in the clubs own words at the time, from their "Newcastle United Football Club VISION STATEMENT" . . . http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/7thMarch2010.jpg http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/NewcastleUnited1997VISION.jpg http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/NewcastleUnited1997VISION001.jpg http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/NewcastleUnited1997VISION002.jpg http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/NewcastleUnited1997VISION003.jpg Cheers for sharing, I’d imagine that stadium would be outdated now, just look at the current stadium. Me personally I’d never want to move from SJP even if it meant we were capped at he current capacity forever. This is a decent thread to read/discussion from the HOF... https://www.newcastle-online.org/forum/index.php?topic=24093.0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Wonder what would have been if the MGM partnership came to fruition. The idea behind that is very much how most stadium projects are in the US now - not in the sense of gambling - but in the sense of a massive mixed-use retail (shopping, dining), living (apartments/condos), etc. Being a new epicenter. If the team was continuing to progress and the money entering the club - what could have been? So many more center-city jobs too. By the way in the US - everyone here points to LA Live - which began construction in late 2005 and the phases were delivered in 2007 - 2009. I mean every single developer who wants to build a stadium across NFL, NBA, MLB or MLS wants to do something like LA Live. https://investors.mgmresorts.com/investors/news-releases/press-release-details/2003/MGM-MIRAGE-and-Newcastle-United-PLC-Announce-Joint-Venture-Agreement/default.aspx Read through this press release, It honestly feels like NUFC / MGM was actually ahead of its time creating this JV. Such ambition by our then board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 The 50 50 partnership includes newcastle united plc providing the land above the metro station .....oh dear.!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 More tarting up at the ground, opposite Sir Bobbys statue... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Looks fucking shit, like badly wallpapered bedroom walls in a kids room. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 It looks very tatty and cheap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Be funny when that team line-up is exactly the same in a few years time, when most of the players (and hopefully the head coach) have gone! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Is this Mike's way of hoying lipstick on a pig to try and make it look a little more attractive? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Be funny when that team line-up is exactly the same in a few years time, when most of the players (and hopefully the head coach) have gone! 8 year contracts, all round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon No9 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Would've been great! And for £65M aswell!!!?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Boy Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Would've been great! And for £65M aswell!!!?? it would be like all the modern stadiums. a souless meccano style bowl. it was rightly stopped. St James Park forever. Take down the student flats and build them elsewhere to get round listed building regualtions. build over east stand and gallowgate to complete the current ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Would've been great! And for £65M aswell!!!?? it would be like all the modern stadiums. a souless meccano style bowl. it was rightly stopped. St James Park forever. Take down the student flats and build them elsewhere to get round listed building regualtions. build over east stand and gallowgate to complete the current ground. As long as MA is the owner there is no need to expand, if we get taken over by some mega rich bloke/country then we'll be building a new stadium in time rather than expanding SJP. The time to have a fully complete SJP has passed unfortunately Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 The new 1997 Stadium proposals were for the "Castle Leazes" area of the Town Moor NOT for Leazes Park !!! Newcastle United FC : New Stadium Plans. No. 1 - The 1997 Proposals . . . There have been many proposals over the years (and over the centuries!) for Newcastle United Football Club to either build a new stadium at St James' Park, or to build a new stadium elsewhere. These various proposals are clearly ideal "Newcastle as it might have been" articles, for inclusion on this thread. Just to be different, this time I thought I would start with the most recent set of unrealised plans, and work my way backwards. So, here is No. 1 . . . the 1997 proposals to build a new stadium a few hundred yards away from St James' Park, on "Castle Leazes Moor". To get a CLEAR idea of where this stadium was to be built. At the top of this aerial photo, Castle Leazes Moor and St James' Park, can both be seen . . http://www.freemenofnewcastle.com/images/MoorsNorthWestLarge.jpg Here are the clubs plans (seen from above) for the new stadium on Castle Leazes Moor on the left, with the (St James' Park cut-in-half) St James' Centre, shown on the right . . http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/NewcastleUnitedFC-1997NewGroundPlan.jpg A view of the proposed new stadium, at the 'South East' corner, nearest to Leazes Park lake . . http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/NewcastleUnitedFC-1997NewGroundP-6.jpg Another view of the proposed 'Castle Leazes Moor' stadium . . http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/NewcastleUnitedFC-1997NewGroundP-5.jpg This sketch shows the proposed 'Leazes Way' walkway through the enlarged Leazes Park, that would have lead from the new "St James Centre" (proposed indoor stadium on site of St James Park) to the new stadium on Castle Leazes Moor . . http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/NewcastleUnitedFC-1997NewGroundP-2.jpg Another sketch of the proposed stadium, from Leazes park . . http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/NewcastleUnitedFC-1997NewGroundP-1.jpg The "ST JAMES' CENTRE" . . . was an important part of the overall plan. This was to be an indoor stadium on the site of the current St James' Park. The South Stand and South West corner would remain as they were, the East and Milburn stands would be demolished, and the Sir John Hall stand and corners would be dismantled and re-erected closer to the remaining 'South Stand', to form the indoor stadium . . as shown, with the building over Strawberry Place linking to the 'new build' over St James' Park Metro Station . . http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/NewcastleUnitedFC-1997NewGroundP-4.jpg One of the envisaged advantages of the 'reduced size' St James' Park/Centre, to the immediate area, would be the extended Leazes Park, as shown here where it is overlooked by Leazes Terrace, at the point where the demolished 'East Stand' used to be . . http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/NewcastleUnitedFC-1997NewGroundP-3.jpg Now, the above plans and proposals, in the clubs own words at the time, from their "Newcastle United Football Club VISION STATEMENT" . . . http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/7thMarch2010.jpg http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/NewcastleUnited1997VISION.jpg http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/NewcastleUnited1997VISION001.jpg http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/NewcastleUnited1997VISION002.jpg http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/NewcastleUnited1997VISION003.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Here are the earlier plans for St James' Park, from 1972 . . . Newcastle United FC : New Stadium Plans. No. 2 - The 1972 Proposals . . . NB - Part 1, 1997, can be seen HERE : https://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=53090947&postcount=218 and also HERE : https://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=53470089&postcount=272 In 1972 we were presented with a detailed and comprehensive set of proposals to demolish the entire ground, and rebuild a 'uniform stand' (seats upstairs with standing in front) all the way around the ground. Effectively, what was being proposed in 1972, was to build (what became the following year) the new East Stand all the way around St James Park, looking the same architecturally from outside as well as in, with some possible differences in the 'West Stand' area. Here is the full set of "as it might have been" proposals, from 1972 . . . http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/1972PlansforStJamesPark-1.jpg http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/1972PlansforStJamesPark001.jpg http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/1972PlansforStJamesPark002.jpg http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/1972PlansforStJamesPark003.jpg http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/1972PlansforStJamesPark004.jpg http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/1972PlansforStJamesPark005.jpg http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/1972PlansforStJamesPark007.jpg http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/1972PlansforStJamesPark008.jpg http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/1972PlansforStJamesPark009.jpg http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/1972PlansforStJamesPark010.jpg http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/1972PlansforStJamesPark011.jpg http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/1972PlansforStJamesPark012.jpg Then, when we all assembled for the start of the 72/73 season on 12th August 1972, this was the front cover of our "new style" Match Programme . . http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/Season72-73EastStandopens.jpg Inside the programme, the state of play with the development was explained . . http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/Season72-73EastStandopens001.jpg AS history shows, it was only the 'East Stand' of these proposals, that was ever built, and it didn't even cover the full length of the old Popular Side. The rest of these proposals were quietly dropped, which was later said to be because of lack of money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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