TheGuv Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 I remember them making a comment about how it’s the only stadium in the UK with a main train line near by. I honestly think they’ll stay on the same site. Don’t be surprised if they build a mad temporary stadium at Exhibition Park or something. There’s precedent for that too with the Great Exhibition of 1929. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrone Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 The email has also gone to non members like. But as mentioned, they'd already said this survey was coming, and specifically pointed out it will be full of hypothetical scenarios Nothing is going to be announced until after this season, at the earliest ?♂️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 1 hour ago, r0cafella said: Fundamentally, isn’t more seats for the average Joe and more seats for corporates a win win? I don’t quite understand the negativity to this aspect of it? Yeah I'm not sure what the gripe is here. Obviously they're going to want to extract as much money as possible from the "Corporate" tickets but that doesn't mean the whole ground is going to be big squishy sofas, personal TV screens and hand-delivered temaki. That picture of a hypothetical seating plan (I saw it on Twitter, might be on here too) showed four "corporate" areas - one on each touchline roughly the size of the current directors box, plus a thin strip across the sides that seem to be roughly where the current boxes are. Everything else (including behind both goals) seemed to just be standard seating/standing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 For all those who love FFP and want a club that competes. How about we whack £1000 a season extra onto all 35,000 Season Tickets to generate £35m a year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 41 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: Get well soon Thanks, the Lemsip suppositories are kicking in and I feel a bit better already Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 9 hours ago, buzz said: SJP's days are numbered I think In the hundreds of millions, yes !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 41 minutes ago, TheGuv said: I remember them making a comment about how it’s the only stadium in the UK with a main train line near by. I honestly think they’ll stay on the same site. Don’t be surprised if they build a mad temporary stadium at Exhibition Park or something. There’s precedent for that too with the Great Exhibition of 1929. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Pleased in a way that they've done this so we can all stop with any pretense about who they're catering for and what their intentions are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheGuv said: For all those who love FFP and want a club that competes. How about we whack £1000 a season extra onto all 35,000 Season Tickets to generate £35m a year? This is it. ’I’ve got my season ticket, so don’t change a thing, apart from buying players’. ‘Ok, let’s not change a thing about the stadium and still buy players, here’s your season ticket for next season, now well over £1k’ ‘Wooooo, what are you doing? You are pricing me out’ ’You want new players, and no changes to the stadium, but we still need to hit FFP’. Edited December 5, 2023 by Stifler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 The club has some big partners working with them now who'll go into a lot of detail analysing the results and any fallout on social too - I just hope people have given fair responses and they take heed of the data. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Gallowgate Toon said: The club has some big partners working with them now who'll go into a lot of detail analysing the results and any fallout on social too - I just hope people have given fair responses and they take heed of the data. What would you do if you were the club out of interest? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellis80 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) They were asking how much more you’d pay for a ticket in a new ground. So it would be a new stadium and near enough a 1000 pound season ticket anyway. Have one bad season and you’ve got 50k rattling around a 70k stadium when Fulham at home is 50 quid a ticket. Argument will be don’t have to charge as much in new ground but that isn’t what happens. Edited December 5, 2023 by Bellis80 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemagpie Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Stifler said: It’s pretty damning that the known whingers on Twatter who have season tickets, and hold non-season ticket holders with control are all against this. Aye class, so it’s great for you to say to fans of other clubs that your club has a 52k stadium, and 35k waiting to get in, but you just don’t want to let any of those 35k in and keep skating them over things like the ballot etc which doesn’t even effect you. Honestly though, as a former season ticket holders (over 2 different periods) and as a member, I want my email, and to have my say. Not fair that they are asking people who already have a season ticket, but not asking their potential new season tickets holders who they would be increasing the capacity for. I'm only a member and i got one. Other 2 in the house are season ticket holders and both got the survey so 3 out of 3 here. All filled in. Definitely loaded towards a new stadium. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Bellis80 said: They were asking how much more you’d pay for a ticket in a new ground. So it would be a new stadium and near enough a 1000 pound season ticket anyway. Have one bad season and you’ve got 50k rattling around a 70k stadium when Fulham at home is 50 quid a ticket. Argument will be don’t have to charge as much in new ground but that isn’t what happens. On the other hand, how many new season tickets could you sell right now? Tens of thousands I would guess. And would those people stop going after one bad season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Gallowgate Toon said: The club has some big partners working with them now who'll go into a lot of detail analysing the results and any fallout on social too - I just hope people have given fair responses and they take heed of the data. I think you're overestimating how much companies place on social fallout. They may well analyse it, but if they can make more money by doing something unpopular that will be the result unfortunately. 1000 corporate customers paying 1000 for a box/ticket is better than 1000 paying 6/700 for a regular seat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellis80 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: On the other hand, how many new season tickets could you sell right now? Tens of thousands I would guess. And would those people stop going after one bad season? They could sell 10k season tickets now and choose not to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, Bellis80 said: They were asking how much more you’d pay for a ticket in a new ground. So it would be a new stadium and near enough a 1000 pound season ticket anyway. Have one bad season and you’ve got 50k rattling around a 70k stadium when Fulham at home is 50 quid a ticket. Argument will be don’t have to charge as much in new ground but that isn’t what happens. If they were going to do that regardless then why bother with the survey? What if the responses are overwhelmingly "I won't pay more than £700 for a season ticket"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bellis80 said: They could sell 10k season tickets now and choose not to. Well yeah, but that is because it would lock out everyone else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Also I don't mind being in the stadium early if they do class food and drink for a sensible price tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) When I went to Spurs the concourses were so full it was a nightmare to get a drink. Like shoulder-to-shoulder impossible to move. I like getting in early, but more to soak up the atmosphere from outside. I can't see myself deliberately going in to eat or drink unless the amount of space is a lot more, and more relaxed, than I've ever experienced at a football stadium. If they sold Greggs, maybe. Edited December 5, 2023 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrone Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 If nothing else that survey has got everyone commenting and giving their opinions, there's quite a lot to digest to be fair. However, I've not seen one person say they have applied to be on the Fans board, which is strange considering how much the club was pushing it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 At the beginning of the year a relation of mine was working directly with Yasir Al-Rumayyan, who told him focus was on developing St James’ Park and not moving. That may have changed since but that was the stance at the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Just now, gjohnson said: I think you're overestimating how much companies place on social fallout. They may well analyse it, but if they can make more money by doing something unpopular that will be the result unfortunately. 1000 corporate customers paying 1000 for a box/ticket is better than 1000 paying 6/700 for a regular seat Sentiment analysis is very common in the sports tech world now. There'll be notes about the lack of objectivity in that data but it will be information presented back in the process regardless, I'm sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) I think redeveloping SJP might be the preferred option but capacity limits and logistics of playing during the work will mean we end up with a new stadium. I'm OK with it as long as the location is good and I can guarantee a season ticket Edited December 5, 2023 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I think redeveloping SJP might be the preferred option but capacity limits and logistics of playing during the work will mean we end up with a new stadium. I'm OK with it as long as the location is good and I can guarantee a season ticket The idea of moving from SJP makes me feel incredibly sad It's just emotions and they'd pass but even the arena site feels so wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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