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TheGuv

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  On 05/12/2023 at 08:34, TheGuv said:

I remember them making a comment about how it’s the only stadium in the UK with a main train line near by. 
 

I honestly think they’ll stay on the same site. Don’t be surprised if they build a mad temporary stadium at Exhibition Park or something. There’s precedent for that too with the Great Exhibition of 1929. 

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Stifler

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  On 05/12/2023 at 08:51, TheGuv said:

For all those who love FFP and want a club that competes. How about we whack £1000 a season extra onto all 35,000 Season Tickets to generate £35m a year?

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This is it.

 

’I’ve got my season ticket, so don’t change a thing, apart from buying players’.

 

‘Ok, let’s not change a thing about the stadium and still buy players, here’s your season ticket for next season, now well over £1k’

 

‘Wooooo, what are you doing? You are pricing me out’

 

’You want new players, and no changes to the stadium, but we still need to hit FFP’. 

 

 

 

 

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Bellis80

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They were asking how much more you’d pay for a ticket in a new ground. So it would be a new stadium and near enough a 1000 pound season ticket anyway. Have one bad season and you’ve got 50k rattling around a 70k stadium when Fulham at home is 50 quid a ticket.

 

Argument will be don’t have to charge as much in new ground but that isn’t what happens.

 

 

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mickthemagpie

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  On 05/12/2023 at 06:46, Stifler said:

It’s pretty damning that the known whingers on Twatter who have season tickets, and hold non-season ticket holders with control are all against this.

Aye class, so it’s great for you to say to fans of other clubs that your club has a 52k stadium, and 35k waiting to get in, but you just don’t want to let any of those 35k in and keep skating them over things like the ballot etc which doesn’t even effect you.

 

Honestly though, as a former season ticket holders (over 2 different periods) and as a member, I want my email, and to have my say.

Not fair that they are asking people who already have a season ticket, but not asking their potential new season tickets holders who they would be increasing the capacity for.

 

 

 

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I'm only a member and i got one. Other 2 in the house are season ticket holders and both got the survey so 3 out of 3 here. All filled in. Definitely loaded towards a new stadium.

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AyeDubbleYoo

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  On 05/12/2023 at 09:33, Bellis80 said:

They were asking how much more you’d pay for a ticket in a new ground. So it would be a new stadium and near enough a 1000 pound season ticket anyway. Have one bad season and you’ve got 50k rattling around a 70k stadium when Fulham at home is 50 quid a ticket.

 

Argument will be don’t have to charge as much in new ground but that isn’t what happens.

 

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On the other hand, how many new season tickets could you sell right now? Tens of thousands I would guess. And would those people stop going after one bad season? 

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gjohnson

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  On 05/12/2023 at 09:29, Gallowgate Toon said:

The club has some big partners working with them now who'll go into a lot of detail analysing the results and any fallout on social too - I just hope people have given fair responses and they take heed of the data.

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I think you're overestimating how much companies place on social fallout. They may well analyse it, but if they can make more money by doing something unpopular that will be the result unfortunately. 1000 corporate customers paying 1000 for a box/ticket is better than 1000 paying 6/700 for a regular seat

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Keegans Export

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  On 05/12/2023 at 09:33, Bellis80 said:

They were asking how much more you’d pay for a ticket in a new ground. So it would be a new stadium and near enough a 1000 pound season ticket anyway. Have one bad season and you’ve got 50k rattling around a 70k stadium when Fulham at home is 50 quid a ticket.

 

Argument will be don’t have to charge as much in new ground but that isn’t what happens.

 

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If they were going to do that regardless then why bother with the survey? What if the responses are overwhelmingly "I won't pay more than £700 for a season ticket"?

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AyeDubbleYoo

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When I went to Spurs the concourses were so full it was a nightmare to get a drink. Like shoulder-to-shoulder impossible to move. 

 

I like getting in early, but more to soak up the atmosphere from outside.

 

I can't see myself deliberately going in to eat or drink unless the amount of space is a lot more, and more relaxed, than I've ever experienced at a football stadium. 

 

If they sold Greggs, maybe. 

 

 

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patrone

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If nothing else that survey has got everyone commenting and giving their opinions, there's quite a lot to digest to be fair.

 

However, I've not seen one person say they have applied to be on the Fans board, which is strange considering how much the club was pushing it 

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At the beginning of the year a relation of mine was working directly with Yasir Al-Rumayyan, who told him focus was on developing St James’ Park and not moving. That may have changed since but that was the stance at the time. 

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Gallowgate Toon

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  On 05/12/2023 at 09:38, gjohnson said:

I think you're overestimating how much companies place on social fallout. They may well analyse it, but if they can make more money by doing something unpopular that will be the result unfortunately. 1000 corporate customers paying 1000 for a box/ticket is better than 1000 paying 6/700 for a regular seat

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Sentiment analysis is very common in the sports tech world now. There'll be notes about the lack of objectivity in that data but it will be information presented back in the process regardless, I'm sure.

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AyeDubbleYoo

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I think redeveloping SJP might be the preferred option but capacity limits and logistics of playing during the work will mean we end up with a new stadium.

 

I'm OK with it as long as the location is good and I can guarantee a season ticket :lol:

 

 

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Gallowgate Toon

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  On 05/12/2023 at 10:04, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I think redeveloping SJP might be the preferred option but capacity limits and logistics of playing during the work will mean we end up with a new stadium.

 

I'm OK with it as long as the location is good and I can guarantee a season ticket :lol:

 

 

 

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The idea of moving from SJP makes me feel incredibly sad [emoji38]

 

It's just emotions and they'd pass but even the arena site feels so wrong. 

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Bellis80

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  On 05/12/2023 at 09:43, Keegans Export said:

If they were going to do that regardless then why bother with the survey? What if the responses are overwhelmingly "I won't pay more than £700 for a season ticket"?

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They had forums for home and away ticketing in the summer and came up with something that works for very few people so doubt they’re arsed about what the survey says. They can say they consulted the fans after though.

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  On 05/12/2023 at 09:52, patrone said:

However, I've not seen one person say they have applied to be on the Fans board, which is strange considering how much the club was pushing it 

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I’m not surprised tbh.

 

Being a ‘fan representative’ of whatever description, be it on the Trust, the Supporters Club, or whatever, inevitably ends up in other supporters questioning/abusing you one way or another.

 

We’ve seen it repeatedly with regard to the Trust. OK, maybe some of them have question marks over certain issues, but there’s a definite ’guilty by association’ that gets thrown around, obviously mainly driven by social media.

 

Whilst I have total respect for people like Greg, who are clearly just fans trying to do what they can to help the club, and fans of the club, you couldn’t pay me to get involved in all that.

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TheBrownBottle

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Hate to sound like a cynic, but I am so I’m bound to - but I don’t think that the ‘fan survey’ will have any impact on the PIF’s actions.  They’ll go for what meets their needs - though of course that’s easier if most are behind it.  
 

I can’t see any significant protest if the decision is to leave SJP.  Firstly, because we don’t really do protests as a support.  Secondly, I didn’t see much of that from Arsenal when they left Highbury, and nowt from Everton when they left Goodison - both grounds being as well-known as any in English football and tied intrinsically to the early histories of the clubs as much as SJP is to NUFC (Arsenal leaving Woolwich for Highbury meaning they were effectively an early franchise club, and Everton leaving Anfield for Goodison led to the creation of Liverpool FC).  Barely a peep from West Ham in moving to that soulless Olympic ground, Man City’s support said nowt about leaving Maine Road.  All big clubs, I’m sure plenty of them got a bit misty-eyed for the final game and then onwards and upwards. 

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