TheBrownBottle Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 21 hours ago, WilliamPS said: Well devils advocate if you just do L7, and move all the east stand season ticket holders up there, and redo the east stand you could turn the whole east stand corporate and get most of the income. Swap season ticket holders paying hundreds for boxes earning thousands. Easiest way to boost revenue, as it’s the corporate option that is lacking compared to other grounds. You said you think a new stadium would be multi billions, that won’t get paid for out of season tickets costing thousands. It depends on what the Board decide the aim of the stadium is. Atmosphere or cash. A new stadium wouldn’t cost a billion, never mind multiple billions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vexred Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 1 minute ago, TheBrownBottle said: A new stadium wouldn’t cost a billion, never mind multiple billions It would be around a billion to get the kind of stadium the owners would want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 3 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: A new stadium wouldn’t cost a billion, never mind multiple billions Evertons was a billion wasnt it ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vexred Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 Just now, JonBez comesock said: Evertons was a billion wasnt it ? £600M if I remember correctly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 4 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: A new stadium wouldn’t cost a billion, never mind multiple billions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 Just now, vexred said: £600M if I remember correctly. £750m? 50k ? Seater 60k seater billon ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 5 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: A new stadium wouldn’t cost a billion, never mind multiple billions 😂😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 I think the challenge with Everton's new stadium is that it's being partly built on a dock so required some extensive groundwork (if that's the correct term) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 The estimated cost to revamp the Nou Camp is €1.5 billion, let alone how much a new state of the art stadium would cost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vexred Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 2 minutes ago, JonBez comesock said: £750m? 50k ? Seater 60k seater billon ? Google is saying Tottenham’s stadium was around a billion. I’d expect the owners would use that as the benchmark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 4 minutes ago, 54 said: The estimated cost to revamp the Nou Camp is €1.5 billion, let alone how much a new state of the art stadium would cost. Spurs' was just over £1bn apparently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokerprince2004 Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 Stadium of Light was only £16m apparently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 1 minute ago, Pokerprince2004 said: Stadium of Light was only £16m apparently That's a good price for that much Mecano tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 2 minutes ago, Pokerprince2004 said: Stadium of Light was only £16m apparently Government/EU paid for most of it… and they had a cheek to vote Leave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancrate1892 Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 3 minutes ago, Pokerprince2004 said: Stadium of Light was only £16m apparently That's cos they planted it in a mud heap. Then they took ally frazers rock bottom quote for the cost of materials Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 11 minutes ago, Pokerprince2004 said: Stadium of Light was only £16m apparently Aye, bought from Ikea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 Think Roma’s new stadium is costing circa 1 billion so would expect a 65k plus new stadium to easily come in over this. I think it cost Liverpool 80 million to add 5k seats at the Anfield Road end, but this was a far easier development than we would face at the Gallowgate End, a more comparable expansion would be Man City’s North Stand development which is costing them 300 million. I’m massively in favour of a new stadium the only concern I have is that Castle Leazes appears the only option, I think someone on here said that the footprint required for a 70k stadium is to big for that site though. I think looking at the above numbers and difficulty of finding a city centre site it’ll be a redevelopment of St James we get. My only hope is that it’s a complete refurb like we’ve seen at the Bernabeu and not just a mirror image of the Leazes End which would be a disaster for the atmosphere and wouldn’t future proof us, as facilities in rest of the stadium are sub standard and dated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 I would absolutely expect a new stadium to be at least a billion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 Am working directly in a similar role now so I’m way more relaxed about the timing of it.. as in a snails pace. It’s just the way of it. The feasibility study will be done.. but it won’t be like a thing that goes straight back to Darren Eales and he says.. yes do that one! Doesn’t work like that. They’ll be sending that info on to a QS firm who will do a rough costing of various options. A brief will be made and there’ll be a big meeting with many folk who will trash out the options. Once they choose an option, then it goes back to the architect, the QS firm, Fire Consultant, Access Consultant etc.. it’s an overall design team and they all do costings that goes into a tender document.. then on to PIF who have to approve it.. but like you’re talking 1.5 years for that to all take place. Then once the brief is out is has to be out for tender for construction companies who’ll want it.. and there could be 10-15 of them. That’s a whole other saga of project management to even get it to a stage where there’ll be boots on the ground as it were with winning appointees Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 1 hour ago, geordie_b said: I’m not a fan. I know needs must for income, but it looks tacky as fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancrate1892 Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 How long did the planning and development of the 2000 expansion take? Seemed to be extremely quick considering some structures like the leazes were just 5 year old at the time. Obviously less complex, but the leazes development was still in the conservation area, and the gargantuan height would have raised concerns for right to light over the far end of leazes terrace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 37 minutes ago, Pancrate1892 said: How long did the planning and development of the 2000 expansion take? Seemed to be extremely quick considering some structures like the leazes were just 5 year old at the time. Obviously less complex, but the leazes development was still in the conservation area, and the gargantuan height would have raised concerns for right to light over the far end of leazes terrace 2 years build time. Planning expedited as Secretary of State waived the right to an enquiry. All on Wiki: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_James'_Park Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 1 hour ago, Pokerprince2004 said: Stadium of Light was only £16m apparently Would have been £16.1m if they bothered with bins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 1 hour ago, Stifler said: I’m not a fan. I know needs must for income, but it looks tacky as fuck. Eh ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 2 hours ago, JonBez comesock said: 😂😂 Looks like I need to give up the day job of being a civils QS running a team of 30 civil engineering cost estimators including projects which top $1bn ... Nah, I'll reiterate this. A new NUFC stadium is unlikely to cost billions. It is unlikely to top 1bn. Spurs' ground cost 1bn+. This is because large scale civil engineering projects are particularly impacted by location - access to site, space restrictions, time restrictions, site conditions etc. Material procurement is a relatively steady cost and can be quantified quite easily. Spurs were building their ground with quite severe access issues, on a site with difficult ground conditions (it is a city location, and therefore it is unlikely that any excavated material could be re-used; besides, there would be nowhere to stockpile it). Everton's ground cost has been mentioned - Everton were building in the docklands, and had ground contamination issues. If NUFC were to build at Castle Leazes, the site has few access restrictions, and is on a relatively level plot of land with little site clearance requirements. The soil is unlikely to have contamination issues (contaminated soil is a nightmare cost-wise). It can be programmed easily as a result of the lack of space restrictions, meaning that the program can be crashed for maximum cost-efficiency. It is unlikely that any nightworks would be required due to the lack of disruption. Don't get me wrong, if they go for a 80k+ super stadium, then yes this would comfortably top 1bn. I'm not sure that's what we'd be getting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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