TRon Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Kanji said: The impact to the city centre businesses pre and post match would be nuclear. That will 100% weigh into this issue. Also for the club to leave the current site they'd have to break the current lease, which I am sure is costly as fuck too versus some sort of amicable trade / pay off that locks the club in the city centre in exchange for that breakage. If we are talking about cost/benefit analysis, PIF are probably the only owners who could buy out the lease and not really give a fuck. Anyone else - or even PIF themselves - will probably have to budget to be a top 6 club rather than a CL club if we can't expand St James to somewhere close to the capacity of the cartel clubs. Maybe if PSR is lifted then they could have a blast at it while they are here, but if they sold up, it would revert to top 6 at best, as no new owner is going to throw their own money into it in an effort to keep up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago Just now, TRon said: If we are talking about cost/benefit analysis, PIF are probably the only owners who could buy out the lease and not really give a fuck. Anyone else - or even PIF themselves - will probably have to budget to be a top 6 club rather than a CL club if we can't expand St James to somewhere close to the capacity of the cartel clubs. Maybe if PSR is lifted then they could have a blast at it while they are here, but if they sold up, it would revert to top 6 at best, as no new owner is going to throw their own money into it in an effort to keep up. Sometimes these municipal leaseholds on stadiums are pretty nuclear in terms of breakage. Like one even the mighty PIF wouldnt want to do given the ripple effects. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Wandy said: I think their fans would swiftly come round to the idea if we handed £25m per season to them. It would secure their FFP status for years. Would be blood money marra, they'd be incandescent at having to give up their fake moral high ground Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago Jesus, not sure I could go with taking the club right out of the city. All to help ensure a regular place in CL, of which the new structure to appease the cartel clubs looks a load of bollocks anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago Racecourse is completely unacceptable, don’t think they’d do it though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago Moving it to the racecourse site or outside the city fundamentally changes the club's unique positiioning and relationship with the city centre. The club just cant up and leave the lease in place and whatever recourse would be involved with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago So much noise about this right now. Does feel like we’re going to get some concrete news soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago NFL and Heavyweight Boxing ain't happening unless NCL airport expands inbound flights + quality hotel lodging improves. Concerts will no doubt increase with better facilties, assuming we would literally take anything that goes to Sunderland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrymac1966 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago Quite happy to leave it to those who are investing to make decisions on our behalf for the absolute best financial outcome. It will be nice to get back in whatever...Consett would be handy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 7 minutes ago, gbandit said: So much noise about this right now. Does feel like we’re going to get some concrete news soon But how soon until we need concrete? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago Just now, Stifler said: But how soon until we need concrete? You’ll have to ask Mike Graham about that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Jack27 said: A 70k stadium is the sweet spot like. Especially if it does have expandability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago Plenty of open space near Amble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago (edited) Thought the arena site had been sold and was therefore not an option? I'd be happy with that location though tbf. It's either a class redevelopment of SJP (for £1bn it'll be a lot more than just adding 10k seats) or a new stadium behind SJP on Leazes Park for me. The new stadium on Leazes Park probably isn't going to be so easy and might not be an option either. Building a stadium well out of the city centre would be deflating to say the least. Edited 13 hours ago by Karjala Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 1 minute ago, 54 said: A 70k stadium is the sweet spot like. Especially if it does have expandability. Why do you say that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 4 minutes ago, TBG said: Plenty of open space near Amble. Morwick Dairy milk and ice cream stands in the stadium. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 4 minutes ago, LFEE said: Why do you say that? It is really. 60k is too small, but 70k with the ability to take it to 80k easily enough if demand holds is great. Let’s remember that Man Utd don’t have 80k seater stadium, Liverpool won’t even have that much when they are done with their expansions. I can’t see us needing a stadium capacity much higher than 80k. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JigsawGoesToPieces Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 2 hours ago, OpenC said: Because it's miles away from the centre of town. Elswick riverside would be a better choice than that for me. Additionally, honestly not to be down on anybody who's genuinely excited by this prospect because your opinion is worth as much as mine, but how good something will look to people coming in on a train, or from a drone shot with the river behind it shouldn't be anywhere near our thinking, like I keep reading this as a reason for the arena site, "because it'll look good for people who aren't there and most of them won't go / will look good on the telly". Complete non-issues imo Elswick man 🤣 The away coaches would have no wheels by 5pm every Saturday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago Buying Utilita Arena and building there IMO is the only legit option. And giving wording about not regretting the decision as a city, helps that. As you see with Man City stadium, that’s completely hauled the neighbouring area, and a mega new stadium there near the Tyne, can see that whole neighbouring area rejuvenated over time with the city area expanded out further for retail and leisure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 1 hour ago, Stifler said: You expecting the ballot system to improve like? I've got a season ticket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 1 hour ago, J7 said: For what reason out of interest? The ballache of having to travel that far? Aye. I'm in Gateshead and I'd have to get through the town traffic and then battle other fans through Gosforth or wherever it is. I'd probably be fine doing it a few times but after the 10th or so I'd just be wishing I was in the house or down my local watching on IPTV. I can just imagine the club not feeling like Newcastle United in this scenario. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankpingel Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago Slightly off topic but it's amazing how folk are (quite understandably) discussing 70 & 80k capacity stadiums. Watching the lads when 18k was deemed decent I'd have never dreamt how the game has developed over these 40 odd years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 56 minutes ago, gbandit said: So much noise about this right now. Does feel like we’re going to get some concrete news soon Summer 2025 here we come Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 57 minutes ago, gbandit said: So much noise about this right now. Does feel like we’re going to get some concrete news soon Hopefully other building materials as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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