St James' Park

[duo]

The lack of a new training ground is impacting us more than a new stadium. You have Championship clubs with better facilities.  No excuse for taking so long to get that off the ground.

 

 

Edited December 23, 2025 by duo

[Scoot]

1 minute ago, duo said:

The lack of a new training ground is impacting us more than a new stadium. You have Championship clubs with better facilities.  No excuse for taking so long to get that off the ground.

 

 

 

 

We're talking Carling here mate!!!

[JigsawGoesToPieces]

Might aswell sell water from the tyne, probably tastes the same as carling.

 

 

Edited December 23, 2025 by JigsawGoesToPieces

[Holloway]

5 hours ago, duo said:

The lack of a new training ground is impacting us more than a new stadium. You have Championship clubs with better facilities.  No excuse for taking so long to get that off the ground.

 

 

 

Is it really though. Think it was saggy chops Redknapp who said a plate of pasta never improved a pass finding it's man

[AyeDubbleYoo]

5 hours ago, duo said:

The lack of a new training ground is impacting us more than a new stadium. You have Championship clubs with better facilities.  No excuse for taking so long to get that off the ground.

On the pitch of course you’re right, the point of a new stadium is purely commercial. 

[TheBrownBottle]

14 hours ago, Holloway said:

Is it really though. Think it was saggy chops Redknapp who said a plate of pasta never improved a pass finding it's man

As much as I wouldn’t want to contradict one of the great thinkers of football, but Redknapp was patently, obviously wrong on that front.  

[TheBrownBottle]

On 23/12/2025 at 09:13, Hudson said:

 

(Re Fosters) ‘but Australians themselves rarely drink it, preferring their own craft breweries and proper lagers’.  Patently untrue - no-one drink Fosters, but most drink Carlton Draught or VB. 

 

Love it when posh pretentious cunts talk absolute bollocks, mind.  Lots and lots of ‘fooled British drinkers’ (i.e. the plebs).  I also love it when folks go on about mass produced craft beer like it’s made out of rainbows and pixie tears; instead of just being more chemical pish to get you drunk and rot the insides.  

 

 

Edited December 24, 2025 by TheBrownBottle

[Holloway]

20 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

As much as I wouldn’t want to contradict one of the great thinkers of football, but Redknapp was patently, obviously wrong on that front.  

he was a pioneer, what you talking about 

can't see much more than minimal impact our facilities or lack of would have on performance but every % matters I guess

at least the days of wheelie bins and kids paddling pools are over

[TheBrownBottle]

3 minutes ago, Holloway said:

he was a pioneer, what you talking about 

can't see much more than minimal impact our facilities or lack of would have on performance but every % matters I guess

at least the days of wheelie bins and kids paddling pools are over

I can’t think of a major club which hasn’t poured significant sums into their training and academy facilities.  I’ve no issue with PIF and the Reubens not wanting to spend their money, as long as they stop talking shite about ‘being no.1’.  Just a bit of honesty would be appreciated.  

[bobbydazzla]

5 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said:

(Re Fosters) ‘but Australians themselves rarely drink it, preferring their own craft breweries and proper lagers’.  Patently untrue - no-one drink Fosters, but most drink Carlton Draught or VB. 

 

Love it when posh pretentious cunts talk absolute bollocks, mind.  Lots and lots of ‘fooled British drinkers’ (i.e. the plebs).  I also love it when folks go on about mass produced craft beer like it’s made out of rainbows and pixie tears; instead of just being more chemical pish to get you drunk and rot the insides.  

 

 

 

 

Aye but the mass produced craft beers often taste canny enough. And some mass produced lagers taste canny enough.

 

Carling is on the very bottom rung of the mass produced lagers and tastes absolutely fucking rank. 

And Madri is just Carling wearing a Spanish disguise and speaking English very slowly with a Spanish accent.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 24, 2025 by bobbydazzla

[Holloway]

Moretti is skunks first piss in the morning,makes me heave 

[Fak]

Just drink what gets you fucked up. 

[Cookie1892]

Players spend 90% of their working week/club life at the training ground so it has to be the best it can be

 

They play/spend marginally more time at the stadium then us fans maybe an extra hour either side of when we are let in on a match day

[TBG]

A lot of players also go missing before full time 

 

[geordiesteve710]

13 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said:

(Re Fosters) ‘but Australians themselves rarely drink it, preferring their own craft breweries and proper lagers’.  Patently untrue - no-one drink Fosters, but most drink Carlton Draught or VB. 

 

Love it when posh pretentious cunts talk absolute bollocks, mind.  Lots and lots of ‘fooled British drinkers’ (i.e. the plebs).  I also love it when folks go on about mass produced craft beer like it’s made out of rainbows and pixie tears; instead of just being more chemical pish to get you drunk and rot the insides.  

 

 

 

 

As someone who is partial to a drop of craft myself, there's so much truth in this. Also it absolutely knacks my insides but for a good beer it's worth it 😃

 

I'd add that there's a bit of emperors new clothes with *some* of the stronger (generally darker or red ale) type stuff. I lived in France 2002 and everywhere you went you'd see homeless folk drinking this honking special brew called Amsterdam. Started at 6% and went up to about 12% for the strongest can. It was about 65 cents for a massive can. Fast forward 20 years and people are paying £8 a go for some beer that tastes remarkably similar to that.

 

As for the match I'm not really fussed tbh, sometimes have a halftime drink but more often than not don't bother. Also, the bars are generally rammed as it is so don't see this as being an area of high growth potential for the club either.

[Stifler]

5 minutes ago, geordiesteve710 said:

As for the match I'm not really fussed tbh, sometimes have a halftime drink but more often than not don't bother. Also, the bars are generally rammed as it is so don't see this as being an area of high growth potential for the club either.

The area of high growth in terms of alcohol sales will come when we have a new stadium and you have more facilities, more room, and more fans who are willing to be in the stadium and hour earlier and and hour later.

Spurs have mastered this.

[geordiesteve710]

2 hours ago, Stifler said:

The area of high growth in terms of alcohol sales will come when we have a new stadium and you have more facilities, more room, and more fans who are willing to be in the stadium and hour earlier and and hour later.

Spurs have mastered this.

 

Spurs are located just off the High Road in Tottenham, there is at best a handful of OK-ish boozers within a 20 minute walk but nothing like Newcastle city centre.

 

It's an interesting conundrum for the club to work out tbf- how to get people in early and staying after kickoff.

 

What do you reckon the potential upside is in alcohol sales if they nail it? I'm a massive layman with stuff like this so I might be completely wrong, but can't see it funding much in the way of new signings.

[Stifler]

Just now, geordiesteve710 said:

 

Spurs are located just off the High Road in Tottenham, there is at best a handful of OK-ish boozers within a 20 minute walk but nothing like Newcastle city centre.

 

It's an interesting conundrum for the club to work out tbf- how to get people in early and staying after kickoff.

 

What do you reckon the potential upside is in alcohol sales if they nail it? I'm a massive layman with stuff like this so I might be completely wrong, but can't see it funding much in the way of new signings.

It won’t just be alcohol sales though, it will be food sales as well. Currently it’s about £7 a pint at SJP. Mount those up with an extra pint for say half the new capacity, so about 10,000. That’s £70,000 per match, that’s just in extra drink sales. Add in food, potential merchandise sales etc, you can easily attain a weeks worth of wages for 10 player per match day.

We haven’t even touched on hospitality tickets etc either.

[Keegans Export]

47 minutes ago, Stifler said:

It won’t just be alcohol sales though, it will be food sales as well. Currently it’s about £7 a pint at SJP. Mount those up with an extra pint for say half the new capacity, so about 10,000. That’s £70,000 per match, that’s just in extra drink sales. Add in food, potential merchandise sales etc, you can easily attain a weeks worth of wages for 10 player per match day.

We haven’t even touched on hospitality tickets etc either.

The hospitality is where the money is really. Obviously with a bigger stadium there'll be more general tickets available but I expect there'll be a substantial increase in hospitality, especially at the very top end.

[OCOCOL]

10 hours ago, Keegans Export said:

The hospitality is where the money is really. Obviously with a bigger stadium there'll be more general tickets available but I expect there'll be a substantial increase in hospitality, especially at the very top end.

I don’t think we have the potebtial

to grow hospitality that the club would like. They closed wings for the Fulham QF game as they can’t shift the tickets and the barracks are always available right up to nearly kick off. There’s 2 things at play in my opinion: 

 

1. offering - I treat myself to the barracks c Chelsea it was £320 for me and the same for my 15 year old son. We got a programme, a pin badge (neither of which I kept - he did tho), a pre match meal from a food truck (choice - sausage and beans, breakfast bap or shredded chicken taco), a singer singing some covers, John Hendrie for 5 mins before st half time and after giving his thoughts on the game and access to a nicer bar area (no reserved seating) and a padded seat (good view tbh) This compares to £40 (if I divide my galliwgate ST by 19 games). It just isn’t in my opinion value for money. 
 

2. Which relates to my last sentence there isn’t the audience in the north east (poorest region in the uk let’s not forget) that can afford this. We also don’t have the cache to grow an international fan / tourist base to complement locally based corporates. Few clubs do - even much more successful Man City struggle to sell corporate packages. Tottenham don’t seem to have this problem so a lot of would appear to be linked to geography or at least not being London based. 
 

 

the driver for a club to build a new club is driven by a want to increase corporate seating but I think they may be reconsidering if the demand is there which I don’t think it is.

 

in an ideal world they’d build a 70k stadium have half of it safe standing and reduce ticket prices to get the young daft lads in but this isn’t on the bean counters agena I fear. 

[HayDen Traces]

10 hours ago, OCOCOL said:

I don’t think we have the potebtial

to grow hospitality that the club would like. They closed wings for the Fulham QF game as they can’t shift the tickets and the barracks are always available right up to nearly kick off. There’s 2 things at play in my opinion: 

 

1. offering - I treat myself to the barracks c Chelsea it was £320 for me and the same for my 15 year old son. We got a programme, a pin badge (neither of which I kept - he did tho), a pre match meal from a food truck (choice - sausage and beans, breakfast bap or shredded chicken taco), a singer singing some covers, John Hendrie for 5 mins before st half time and after giving his thoughts on the game and access to a nicer bar area (no reserved seating) and a padded seat (good view tbh) This compares to £40 (if I divide my galliwgate ST by 19 games). It just isn’t in my opinion value for money. 
 

2. Which relates to my last sentence there isn’t the audience in the north east (poorest region in the uk let’s not forget) that can afford this. We also don’t have the cache to grow an international fan / tourist base to complement locally based corporates. Few clubs do - even much more successful Man City struggle to sell corporate packages. Tottenham don’t seem to have this problem so a lot of would appear to be linked to geography or at least not being London based. 
 

 

the driver for a club to build a new club is driven by a want to increase corporate seating but I think they may be reconsidering if the demand is there which I don’t think it is.

 

in an ideal world they’d build a 70k stadium have half of it safe standing and reduce ticket prices to get the young daft lads in but this isn’t on the bean counters agena I fear. 

This is a really interesting read, perhaps why an all singing, all dancing stadium isn't necessary in Newcastle? 

 

We could fill regular seats sure, but if the name of the game is corporate sales then we don't have the demand for that (yet). I think that will take years of "brand building" to achieve - alongside more silverware and a consistent run of successive years in the champs lge. This will likely be what creates tourist demand.

 

 

 

[bobbydazzla]

Having been in the Barracks I’d agree with the opinion that’s it’s definitely not worth the money. 
 

Getting your ale in a glass, a bit of street food and a Britpop covers band after the game is just not worth the cost versus an ordinary ticket in the Milburn. 
 

It’s a rip off. 
 

Champagne prices for a lemonade experience. 

[Lucky]

Ultimately sustained success on the pitch and genuine star players will determine the corporate demand.

 

It’s been said plenty of times but to see some random kids in any corner of the earth in replica shirts we need someone to generate those sales.

 

Before Qatar bought PSG, when did you ever see their shirts while on holidays? Can’t escape it now. Mbappe, Messi, Neymar etc.

 

Might seem a reach but it does all link back to the corporate side. Home games need to be an event. And the average corporate type isn’t going to shell out large on seeing us play the likes of Wolves at home unless there’s some star power to come and see.

[Elma]

10 hours ago, OCOCOL said:

I don’t think we have the potebtial

to grow hospitality that the club would like. They closed wings for the Fulham QF game as they can’t shift the tickets and the barracks are always available right up to nearly kick off. There’s 2 things at play in my opinion: 

 

1. offering - I treat myself to the barracks c Chelsea it was £320 for me and the same for my 15 year old son. We got a programme, a pin badge (neither of which I kept - he did tho), a pre match meal from a food truck (choice - sausage and beans, breakfast bap or shredded chicken taco), a singer singing some covers, John Hendrie for 5 mins before st half time and after giving his thoughts on the game and access to a nicer bar area (no reserved seating) and a padded seat (good view tbh) This compares to £40 (if I divide my galliwgate ST by 19 games). It just isn’t in my opinion value for money. 
 

2. Which relates to my last sentence there isn’t the audience in the north east (poorest region in the uk let’s not forget) that can afford this. We also don’t have the cache to grow an international fan / tourist base to complement locally based corporates. Few clubs do - even much more successful Man City struggle to sell corporate packages. Tottenham don’t seem to have this problem so a lot of would appear to be linked to geography or at least not being London based. 
 

 

the driver for a club to build a new club is driven by a want to increase corporate seating but I think they may be reconsidering if the demand is there which I don’t think it is.

 

in an ideal world they’d build a 70k stadium have half of it safe standing and reduce ticket prices to get the young daft lads in but this isn’t on the bean counters agena I fear. 

 

Interesting that they are struggling to shift corporate, particularly The Barracks. Our family get together for one game a year and used to always nominate a game in July and then buy six Barracks tickets as soon as they came on sale at the beginning of the season. There are 500 I believe for each game and every game for the whole season was gone in about three days. 

 

This year they didn't put them on sale in summer and have been drip feeding them online just before the actual games. I was lead to believe this was to sell large blocks of tickets to larger corporate groups and sponsors and then release what was left in the lead up to the game (I might be wrong on that).

 

Thankfully we managed to get ours for the Brentford game in February, but I've just checked online and although they've sold out for most upcoming games, there are still 59 available for Leeds. Obviously some or all may go before kick off, but it appears this new approach isn't working out, particularly for the higher priced corporate packages.

 

Agree on the poor value for money on The Barracks too, although for our family it works as it gets us six seats together for a guaranteed game (we have people needing to book flights etc) when we no longer hold any season tickets.

[bobbydazzla]

I was right in front of Wings for Fulham 1/4 final and was surprised to see it was shut for a relatively high profile night game not long before Xmas, which you’d imagine would be a decent time of year for a corporate doo.

 

The prices they charge for the quality of hospitality facilities is just way too much. 
 

It’s hardly a surprise that there’s loads of the hospitality seats available for every game. You’ve got to have some pulling power for tickets at £300+ and we have neither the team or the fan demographic to justify that. 

 

 

 

Edited December 25, 2025 by bobbydazzla