Wallsendmag Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 11 minutes ago, Jonas said: In this dimension its not possible to build a big stadium anywhere or anyhow where many of the seats aren't 'level 7' esque in terms of view and distance from the pitch. Aye our East Stand just totally ruins it. Went to Benfica just before COVID and that holds 65k. We were sat near the back and it the view/experience couldn't have felt any different to Level 7 because we had fans all the way around the stadium sat at the same height as us. You really felt part of the crowd. When you are sat near the back of Level 7 and looking out over the town I find I feel totally isolated from the actual occasion. I hate it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 (edited) Maybe thats it. Just know from experience that up top at Old Trafford, Wembley and the Nou Camp for a view and feeling part of the game/relatable to it, just wasn't there compared to what you get in a 1st or 2nd tier and whenever I see some of these vlogs it looks no different anywhere else up a height as it does the away fan vlogs at our place. Just seems some people are expecting that to go away when it will in some cases be the same or even worse is. Edited March 4 by Jonas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Personally loved level 7 when we had the singing section up there. Certainly felt part of it with 3k stood singing every week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 7 minutes ago, Danh1 said: Personally loved level 7 when we had the singing section up there. Certainly felt part of it with 3k stood singing every week. I was part of that singing section. Had a great few years up there before Ashley spat the dummy, especially being in the balcony part at the front. However my mates who were in the Gallowgate at the time used to comment that they couldn't really hear us from there, again down to the poor acoustics of the stadium and the noise just getting lost due to the lopsided design. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Concur the problem with our level 7, compared to the back of 3rd tier at Spurs new stadium is that you feel detached as @Wallsendmag describes. Other big stadiums you can still feel part of it, SJP really is so poorly designed I can’t help but feel this is a big opportunity missed if we stay. I think if we end up with a mirror image of the Leazes End and some Aviva Stadium style glass construction of the East Stand, any romantic notions of SJP will be quashed and it’ll be more soulless than any new stadium. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCB Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 (edited) Friends of Leazes Park Chair has put together a proposal to move Leazes Terrace into Leazes Park, keeping only the listed building facade. If approved by Newcastle City Council & English Heritage, would potentially allow NUFC to expand the East Stand of St. James’ Park. Edited March 5 by FCB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 22 minutes ago, FCB said: Friends of Leazes Park Chair has put together a proposal to move Leazes Terrace into Leazes Park, keeping only the listed building facade If approved by Newcastle City Council & English Heritage, would potentially allow NUFC to expand the East Stand of St. James’ Park I don’t follow this. What exactly are they proposing? Also, Leazes Terrace isn’t the only issue. There’s St James’ Terrace too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Doesn’t the listed facade go all the way around? Or does that imply only the part furthest away from the stadium? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 2 hours ago, Whitley mag said: Concur the problem with our level 7, compared to the back of 3rd tier at Spurs new stadium is that you feel detached as @Wallsendmag describes. Other big stadiums you can still feel part of it, SJP really is so poorly designed I can’t help but feel this is a big opportunity missed if we stay. I think if we end up with a mirror image of the Leazes End and some Aviva Stadium style glass construction of the East Stand, any romantic notions of SJP will be quashed and it’ll be more soulless than any new stadium. I sit in L7 and don't feel detached from the game but I don't sit behind a goal. Wouldn't swap for my dead centre Gallowgate seats I had until moving to the family section. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 9 hours ago, wormy said: Let's keep SJP, develop a new stadium on the arena site and rotate every other week. Could sell half-season tickets to just one or the other. More money. More fans able to attend. All our problems will disappear. Different manager at each stadium - Howe at one, Emery at the other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 4 hours ago, Wallsendmag said: Aye our East Stand just totally ruins it. Went to Benfica just before COVID and that holds 65k. We were sat near the back and it the view/experience couldn't have felt any different to Level 7 because we had fans all the way around the stadium sat at the same height as us. You really felt part of the crowd. When you are sat near the back of Level 7 and looking out over the town I find I feel totally isolated from the actual occasion. I hate it. Expanding the Gallowgate wouldn't solve that, but it should alleviate it a bit, the upper tier would feel more enclosed than it currently does Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 7 hours ago, timeEd32 said: Doesn’t the listed facade go all the way around? Or does that imply only the part furthest away from the stadium? Yes, it does. Which is why that post didn’t make a lick of sense. I don’t understand what exactly is being moved into Leazes Park Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 3 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Yes, it does. Which is why that post didn’t make a lick of sense. I don’t understand what exactly is being moved into Leazes Park Bricks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 10 hours ago, FCB said: Friends of Leazes Park Chair has put together a proposal to move Leazes Terrace into Leazes Park, keeping only the listed building facade. If approved by Newcastle City Council & English Heritage, would potentially allow NUFC to expand the East Stand of St. James’ Park. The amount of humble pie being gorged on by people will be something to behold if this happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 10 hours ago, FCB said: Friends of Leazes Park Chair has put together a proposal to move Leazes Terrace into Leazes Park, keeping only the listed building facade. If approved by Newcastle City Council & English Heritage, would potentially allow NUFC to expand the East Stand of St. James’ Park. Is this something you've heard? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCB Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 hour ago, Scoot said: Is this something you've heard? Pulled off Twitter last night Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon1892 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Would be amazing if that could actually happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Aye, that is 100% Toon Ed fantasy talk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Out of interest is there anybody on here who wants us to stay at SJP at all costs willing to give up their seat & ticket for 2yrs therefore not able to attend for this to happen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 minute ago, LFEE said: Out of interest is there anybody on here who wants us to stay at SJP at all costs willing to give up their seat & ticket for 2yrs therefore not able to attend for this to happen? Right: two years with a much smaller capacity or move someplace else for two years (seems unlikely). The more you think about it, a new ground makes most sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC_Chris Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Wouldn’t we still have issues with St James’ Street even if this Leazes Terrace idea was true? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 (edited) 6 minutes ago, NUFC_Chris said: Wouldn’t we still have issues with St James’ Street even if this Leazes Terrace idea was true? It seems to me moving North West and building 3/4 of the new ground ahead of time is the only remotely feasible "stay" option otherwise it's go elsewhere. The question is how much opposition would there be to taking a piece of Leazes Park? Edited March 5 by OverThere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 (edited) 13 hours ago, FCB said: Friends of Leazes Park Chair has put together a proposal to move Leazes Terrace into Leazes Park, keeping only the listed building facade. If approved by Newcastle City Council & English Heritage, would potentially allow NUFC to expand the East Stand of St. James’ Park. I thought Beamish had already baggsied taking Leazers Terrace when it gets relocated, there’ll be absolute Victorian-era hell on if they’ve been gazumped The Friends of Leazers Terrace Chair will be getting whipped with a birch and forced to work as a pit pony Edited March 5 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphanage Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 (edited) 12 minutes ago, OverThere said: It seems to me moving North West and building 3/4 of the new ground ahead of time is the only remotely feasible "stay" option otherwise it's go elsewhere. The question is how much opposition would there be to taking a piece of Leazes Park? Just stick it on the grassland opposite the park ( north ) park saved jobs a good ' un . Plus just build a whole new ground whilst we use St James . No disruption no reduced capacity . Simples Edited March 5 by Orphanage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 (edited) 20 hours ago, Ben said: I am of course not as versed in the politics and rules over there but id have thought a land trade would make a hell of a ton of sense to make this work for the freeman. Also, the club could pay a land lease to the freeman that would help fund what’s needed to keep the rest of the park in working order. same goes for the 90s idea from SJH. Land trade, land lease. Edited March 5 by Kanji Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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