St James' Park

[Mountain]

I can't believe we haven't physically started to extend or build a new stadium yet, we desperately need the increased income.

[TomYam]

5 hours ago, Whitley mag said:

Not so sure think the Nimbys from Spital Tongues and folk who have nothing better to do with their time will campaign against it, unfortunately even an enhanced and better park wouldn’t pacify the tree huggers and swampy brigade.

If done correctly and openly on that Castle Leazes plot AND with an extended park  very few would object. Most who objected in the '90s were set against the plan to retain St James's (possibly in reduced form) AND build a new stadium on Castle Leazes. Offering an extended and enhanced Leazes Park, while building a new state-of-the-art stadium, would override the objections of all but a handful of hardcore idealist environmentalists.

[Superior Acuña]

What was Hall wanting to do with SJP if we were playing in the new one?

[Ben]

27 minutes ago, Superior Acuña said:

What was Hall wanting to do with SJP if we were playing in the new one?

Part of his sporting club vision, I think he wanted the rugby to play there with a much reduced capacity 

[TheBrownBottle]

28 minutes ago, Superior Acuña said:

What was Hall wanting to do with SJP if we were playing in the new one?

At one point it was proposed by Hall that the newly bought Newcastle Gosforth RFC (later the Falcons) would play there as part of the ‘Newcastle United Sporting Club’ thing when the club bought them out.  

[TheBrownBottle]

Just now, Ben said:

Part of his sporting club vision, I think he wanted the rugby to play there with a much reduced capacity 

Beat me to it  

[TheBrownBottle]

6 hours ago, Mountain said:

I can't believe we haven't physically started to extend or build a new stadium yet, we desperately need the increased income.

I honestly thought they’d have had a lot of it already discussed amongst themselves and organised.  It took 18 months for the deal to go through - it’s not as if they didn’t have the time before the sale.  And over two years is a significant chunk of time to get balls rolling - I don’t understand why the first feelers only started last year. 

[Scoot]

25 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I honestly thought they’d have had a lot of it already discussed amongst themselves and organised.  It took 18 months for the deal to go through - it’s not as if they didn’t have the time before the sale.  And over two years is a significant chunk of time to get balls rolling - I don’t understand why the first feelers only started last year. 

 

Because the year before we were fighting relegation.

[Ben]

I thought the infrastructure and new site for the Training ground would have been sorted by now 

[TheBrownBottle]

58 minutes ago, Scoot said:

 

Because the year before we were fighting relegation.

Unless the owners were on the training ground trying to help the players stay up, that’s not really much of a reason not to be planning.  Most businesses can multitask 

[Scoot]

6 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Unless the owners were on the training ground trying to help the players stay up, that’s not really much of a reason not to be planning.  Most businesses can multitask 

 

But a new training ground would not have been priority in the season we were fighting relegation. Plus, I reckon they had an absolute shit load of stuff to get through/laugh at following on from Ashley.

 

Patience.

[TheBrownBottle]

2 minutes ago, Scoot said:

 

But a new training ground would not have been priority in the season we were fighting relegation. Plus, I reckon they had an absolute shit load of stuff to get through/laugh at following on from Ashley.

 

Patience.

I know where you’re coming from tbf - and I accept that I’m a wee bit impatient with this stuff.  Just find it disappointing as every passing year makes it harder to pull closer and catch up to the sky six.  Spurs’ revenue just went up by £100m. 

[Guest]

31 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I know where you’re coming from tbf - and I accept that I’m a wee bit impatient with this stuff.  Just find it disappointing as every passing year makes it harder to pull closer and catch up to the sky six.  Spurs’ revenue just went up by £100m. 

Wor time will come

[bobbydazzla]

8 hours ago, Mountain said:

I can't believe we haven't physically started to extend or build a new stadium yet, we desperately need the increased income.

 

I can't believe we haven't already built a stadium wherever we want

 

The eurocrat bureaucrat jobsworths aren't gonna make us tear down a 90,000 state of the art stadium are they 

 

And if they do try we'll sue and threaten to take a bulldozer to Leazers Terrace

 

What was the point of leaving the EU if we can't even build a bloody stadium without some planning jobsworth at the council, a load of woke NIMBY's and weed smoking hippies all sticking their neb in asking for planning permission and to protect the endangered newts

 

[Scoot]

1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I know where you’re coming from tbf - and I accept that I’m a wee bit impatient with this stuff.  Just find it disappointing as every passing year makes it harder to pull closer and catch up to the sky six.  Spurs’ revenue just went up by £100m. 

 

And ours will jump significantly next year with our new sponsors (Sela and Adidas, as well as the smaller sponsors) not to mention Champions League money (obviously thar will drop the year after).

 

I know people want things here and now, but considering where these owners had to start from post Ashley, I think we're doing just fine.

[nufcnick]

1 hour ago, Scoot said:

 

And ours will jump significantly next year with our new sponsors (Sela and Adidas, as well as the smaller sponsors) not to mention Champions League money (obviously thar will drop the year after).

 

I know people want things here and now, but considering where these owners had to start from post Ashley, I think we're doing just fine.

You realise the Sela and Champions League money has been accounted for on this years books (23-34) don’t you? The accounts for next year will only include uplifts in smaller sponsorships and the Adidas sponsorship. 

[Whitley mag]

7 hours ago, TomYam said:

If done correctly and openly on that Castle Leazes plot AND with an extended park  very few would object. Most who objected in the '90s were set against the plan to retain St James's (possibly in reduced form) AND build a new stadium on Castle Leazes. Offering an extended and enhanced Leazes Park, while building a new state-of-the-art stadium, would override the objections of all but a handful of hardcore idealist environmentalists.

Hopefully you’re right but I could see a fair few being up in arms, these environmentalists rarely see the upside of things like this, expect a fierce battle if it went this route.

 

A useable park in the heart of the city with a lake etc, would be a real asset to the city though and I really think club should be thinking along these lines.

 

SJP is not fit for purpose in terms of facilities and overall experience, I actually find the place grim these days, the view and atmosphere in large swathes of the stadium are a pretty soulless experience.

 

 

Edited January 26, 2024 by Whitley mag

[Mountain]

6 hours ago, bobbydazzla said:

 

I can't believe we haven't already built a stadium wherever we want

 

The eurocrat bureaucrat jobsworths aren't gonna make us tear down a 90,000 state of the art stadium are they 

 

And if they do try we'll sue and threaten to take a bulldozer to Leazers Terrace

 

What was the point of leaving the EU if we can't even build a bloody stadium without some planning jobsworth at the council, a load of woke NIMBY's and weed smoking hippies all sticking their neb in asking for planning permission and to protect the endangered newts

 

 

Feminist.

[Guest]

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-real-madrid-stadium-architect-28577829?ds=
 

You need the patience of a saint to get through the website but this was a semi interesting read

[Danh1]

20 minutes ago, Jack27 said:

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-real-madrid-stadium-architect-28577829?ds=
 

You need the patience of a saint to get through the website but this was a semi interesting read

They could print this coming Saturday’s winning Lotto numbers on that website and I’d refuse to read it. Cant believe they haven’t addressed the huge issues with it, that have been the case for years. 

[Orphanage]

28 minutes ago, Jack27 said:

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-real-madrid-stadium-architect-28577829?ds=
 

You need the patience of a saint to get through the website but this was a semi interesting read

" The lack of space around the Bernabeu means Madrid have been forced to build upwards over the years. The steep stadium, as a result, is one of the highest in Europe, which has created that Colosseum effect Bellingham spoke about "

 

 

[Cookie1892]

On 26/01/2024 at 11:28, Whitley mag said:

Hopefully you’re right but I could see a fair few being up in arms, these environmentalists rarely see the upside of things like this, expect a fierce battle if it went this route.

 

A useable park in the heart of the city with a lake etc, would be a real asset to the city though and I really think club should be thinking along these lines.

 

SJP is not fit for purpose in terms of facilities and overall experience, I actually find the place grim these days, the view and atmosphere in large swathes of the stadium are a pretty soulless experience.

 

 

 

 

I am sure we could incorporate it into the build if it led up to the new stadium

 

Fanzones

Family Zones for picnics etc

Memory garden/walk for those fans and players no longer with us

Sensory spaces for kids etc

Football themed playground etc etc etc

 

 

it would be used all year round

[Wandy]

The facade might not be to everyone's taste (personally I think it looks amazing) but the inside of the Bernabeu is hands down the best layout for seats in a football stadium IMO. It's got the perfect mix of great views for everyone & steep stands/proper roof that create an enclosed, imposing & intimidating environment. I'd love it if we built a near replica of that layout. We can debate how it should look on the outside after that.

 

 

Edited February 6, 2024 by Wandy

[TheBrownBottle]

4 hours ago, Jack27 said:

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-real-madrid-stadium-architect-28577829?ds=
 

You need the patience of a saint to get through the website but this was a semi interesting read

Even a cursory look at where the Bernabeu is situated would have told the Ronnie Gill hack that the sites aren’t even remotely comparable.  The space there isn’t limited at all - it’s surrounded on all sides by a fucking massive car park.

[ponsaelius]

3 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Even a cursory look at where the Bernabeu is situated would have told the Ronnie Gill hack that the sites aren’t even remotely comparable.  The space there isn’t limited at all - it’s surrounded on all sides by a fucking massive car park.

 

It isn't like, it is surrounded closely by Madrid streets and buildings on all sides. Not as tight as we have it but certainly not a blank canvas.

 

 

Edited February 6, 2024 by ponsaelius