St James' Park

[Wallsendmag]

  On 30/04/2024 at 12:52, tgarve said:

And there we go

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Can never be seen as a top class arena up with the best there is whilst that 1970s monstrosity is part of it. If you disagree that's fine.

[SteV]

  On 30/04/2024 at 12:55, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

I can't see how that's possible, would mean even less general sale tickets than now. 

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Yeah, I don’t think they would increase ST numbers, even at 65k.

 

Ballot success rates should be a fair bit higher though…

[TBG]

Say what you want regarding their human rights record, but at least the North Korean dictatorship listen to their fans and deliver with a 150,000 capacity stadium.

 

PIF on the other hand....

[r0cafella]

  On 30/04/2024 at 13:00, SteV said:

Yeah, I don’t think they would increase ST numbers, even at 65k.

 

Ballot success rates should be a fair bit higher though…

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Yea absolutely, for me though if we take an option which still requires extensive balloting at the end of it we’ve failed in what we should have been trying achieve. 

[huss9]

  On 30/04/2024 at 12:55, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

I can't see how that's possible, would mean even less general sale tickets than now. 

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45k ST holders?

15k on general sale?

[nufcnick]

  On 30/04/2024 at 13:10, huss9 said:

45k ST holders?

15k on general sale?

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Away fans take at least 3k 

[huss9]

  On 30/04/2024 at 13:13, nufcnick said:

Away fans take at least 3k 

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ah yes - those bassas.

 

[Wallsendmag]

  On 30/04/2024 at 13:01, tgarve said:

I mean we literally know nothing about the final plans and anything is a positive but be a miserable prick if you want to be ??

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What's with the attitude like? Someone had posted a concept and I've commented that or would be disappointing if we couldn't touch the East Stand as that would stop it being an elite level stadium in my opinion.

[ponsaelius]

  On 30/04/2024 at 12:54, huss9 said:

i'm more worried about the reduced capacity for a couple of years whilst its rebuilt.

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If it's just Gallowgate extension you wouldn't have to. You could do a large amount of the work while the existing is place - then complete during off season like Liverpool did. Only likely a small period of time with reduced capacity.

[Chicken Dancer]

To be fair that mock up isn't for me either. I'd be gutted if the Gallowgate lost the low roof.

 

But I'd be more than happy with it if it meant an increased capacity and therefore more way for my mates to get a Season Ticket again.

[huss9]

  On 30/04/2024 at 13:16, ponsaelius said:

 

If it's just Gallowgate extension you wouldn't have to. You could do a large amount of the work while the existing is place - then complete during off season like Liverpool did. Only likely a small period of time with reduced capacity.

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maybe some corporate work in the milburn also?

 

 

Edited April 30, 2024 by huss9

[timeEd32]

I have a feeling the plans will be above and beyond what most are imagining.

 

I hope the goal is to get to 63k so it's bigger than all but OT.

[80]

  On 30/04/2024 at 13:00, tgarve said:

It’s honestly pathetic 

most miserable fan base on the planet at times

owners who have practically saved our club want to rebuild the ground after developing a huge fan park and funding improvements all over the place.

 

Lad sitting at home ‘ not good enough ‘ 

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It's probably the only opportunity to seriously develop the stadium and a major part of the club and city for a generation or more. Can't blame people for wanting to get it right and make their view heard. It's not a criticism of the owners; if anything it's about trying to help them spend their money more wisely.

[leffe186]

  On 30/04/2024 at 13:13, nufcnick said:

Away fans take at least 3k 

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As long as you put us where we’re supposed to be I’ll be happy.

[huss9]

  On 30/04/2024 at 13:17, 80 said:

It's probably the only opportunity to seriously develop the stadium and a major part of the club and city for a generation or more. Can't blame people for wanting to get it right and make their view heard. It's not a criticism of the owners; if anything it's about trying to help them spend their money more wisely.

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part of me thinks that too.

one chance to really go for it rather than cram as much as we can into the current stadium/site.

also no affect on capacity whilst new one is being built.

 

[GeordieT]

  On 30/04/2024 at 13:06, r0cafella said:

Yea absolutely, for me though if we take an option which still requires extensive balloting at the end of it we’ve failed in what we should have been trying achieve. 

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If you are the club though - and we can argue the rights and wrongs of this as a fan base, they’ll be looking at price elasticity with respect of demand. And a lot of the survey seemed to be teasing that out ‘would you pay more for xx’. If there’s an additional 15k general ballot tickets can we sell those at the existing pricing? A lot depends on what’s happening on the pitch.

 

But let’s wait and see, assume they’ll announce something close season as it gets towards planning.

[huss9]

but lets wait for the official announcement, that photo up above has been doing the rounds for years

[timeEd32]

  On 30/04/2024 at 13:20, leffe186 said:

As long as you put us where we’re supposed to be I’ll be happy.

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If the plans include any significant changes to the Leazes End, I wonder if the PL will force away fans to be moved to the lower tier?

[Kid Icarus]

Great news

[Gallowgate Toon]

Staying felt really important to me. How feasible is it that we'll be able to get to 65k this route? 

[Guest]

  On 30/04/2024 at 13:23, timeEd32 said:

 

If the plans include any significant changes to the Leazes End, I wonder if the PL will force away fans to be moved to the lower tier?

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Create a level 8 above where they are and stick them there, give us 3,000 more season tickets where they currently are. 

[Elma]

Wondering if another tier or at least half tier of height could be added to the East Stand with a new glass roof - the additional bit could be primarily glass and used for corporate (boxes) and/or media freeing up that space elsewhere for additional seating, alongside the additional capacity we'd get from the new Gallowgate/Milburn corner and the extra tier on the Gallowgate. Might be able to get close to 65,000?

[Wallsendmag]

  On 30/04/2024 at 13:23, timeEd32 said:

 

If the plans include any significant changes to the Leazes End, I wonder if the PL will force away fans to be moved to the lower tier?

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Surprised they haven't already tbh. We proved back in 2010 that we could safely accommodate away fans in the Leazes West Corner in levels 2 and 4 when we allowed 3,300 Arsenal fans to go there for a League Cup match. I think they spilled into the Leazes central section a bit but we don't have to give away teams quite as many tickets for standard league games.

[leffe186]

  On 30/04/2024 at 13:25, Optimistic Nut said:

 

Create a level 8 above where they are and stick them there, give us 3,000 more season tickets where they currently are. 

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You already get special dispensation. Don’t be a dick

[SteV]

  On 30/04/2024 at 13:23, timeEd32 said:

 

If the plans include any significant changes to the Leazes End, I wonder if the PL will force away fans to be moved to the lower tier?

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It isn’t really the PL’s decision.

 

All depends on whether the local SAG decide whether any structural changes that get made subsequently make it ‘safe’ for away fans to located lower down.