Keefaz Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 AKA Will Damien Duff ever beat a full-back ever again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_NUFC Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Dunno, but right now: Damien's Duff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 I blame Mourinho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Aye, he's done. And it's not like he's got lots of years left to all of a sudden turn it around. He should be at his peak now. It's normally downhill after 28/29. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 As transparent as glass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 I'm losing patience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPL Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 With better man management and re-newed confidence i think he will come good I'll say think of Nicky Butt but then again theres Lee Bowyer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest elbee909 Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 I think you could tell something in the way Duff walked off, somehow. Losing patience with himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 With better man management and re-newed confidence i think he will come good I'll say think of Nicky Butt but then again theres Lee Bowyer Butt has played well this season but only compared to how shit he has been for us since signing, still nowhere near good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheKingOfNewcastle Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Who's judgement do you trust most. Jose's or Glen Roeder and Greame Souness? Babayaro, Parker and Duff = all shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubblyDubblyDubbly Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Never started for us. Have to ask why a £17m player was allowed to go for £5m....he's heads obviously gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Petay Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 I think a decent left back will do him wonders it will give him the option of playing one twos and having a player over lapping him rather than trying to beat the man everytime. He'll also get far more of the ball, a winger is far more effective with a decent creative full back behind him just look at our right side when Carr plays there instead of Nobby we lose a huge amount of creativity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 I think thats the only reason Mourinho/Chelsea sold him,they found out he's finished and sold him,for a "bargin" wich turned out to be our worst deal this season.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Duff @ Title Winning Chelsea + World Class Manager = shiite. Duff @ Mid Table Newcastle + Championship Standard Manager = shiite. Its not us, its him. But what the heck, he works hard, so lets ignore the 7mill bids and the fact that hes on 70k per week and is inferior to a 20 year old French winger we have on our books. Hes our Duffers, hes world class, and hes not a Spaniard with first name Albert !! Ive got the suspicion that Roeder and Shepherd knew hes been shiite for a long time when we signed him. I can understand why so many of our fans still thought him to be a top class player, because they wont have seen Chelsea much and wont have paid much attention to Duff's individual form when playing in a top side. But its baffled me how our management wouldnt know he was badly off the boil when signing him - imo they did, but made the signing anyway because: 1) To appease the fans who were getting pissed off at the lack of signings. Nothing easier for our club to do then to throw big wages at a Chelsea reject. No scrap-metal, cash on the table, "its good money", derogatory bargaining methods required by our chairman. At the time, we had noone lined up at all, and were just merely scouting the likes of Maritns and Kuyt. 2) To appease Shay Given. Stopped moaning about wanting to win things as soon as we made this signing, when all summer he was clearly getting pissed off at the situation. Bit strange how hes now changed his tune, saying he doesnt want anything to do with a big club and wants to stay here till he retires. Totally different tune to before Duff's signings, when he was talking about moving if he had to to win trophies. 3) Something to do with NZogbia. Maybe he wants more money, or his agent is drumming up interest via links with Arsenal etc, but it was extremely odd for us to spend so much in transfer fees and wages on a second left winger when the team needed reinforcements badly in other positions. A message of intent to Zog from the management it could well have been. No different to us offering Bernard a "fair deal" on the one hand, and signing Babayaro on the other in a "we arent going to bend to your demands so feck off" type statement. Conspiracy theories, but thats all we'll have as no doubt when Freddy sacks Roeder hell force him to sign some privacy agreement before handing over the compo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 I'm seriously starting to think there's some sort of Irish connection on the squad that's forcing Roeder to keep picking Carr and Duff when they're so obviously s****, like what the Brazilian's supposedly have in Barca. (Then again, they can actually play football.) Is it Shay using his clout to look out for his mates you think? Just a conspiracy, but I think it's possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 I think a decent left back will do him wonders it will give him the option of playing one twos and having a player over lapping him rather than trying to beat the man everytime. He'll also get far more of the ball, a winger is far more effective with a decent creative full back behind him just look at our right side when Carr plays there instead of Nobby we lose a huge amount of creativity. A very important point. Never once in the entire game did Huntington even attempt to get forward to support Duff. I'm not blaming Hunty particularly, because left back isn't his position, but you can't expect a wide player to function single handed like that. As it is, Duff did okay tonight I thought. Their defenders had to resort to fouling him quite often, and he won us a few free kicks. As far as I'm concerned, Duff has still got it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Invicta_Toon Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Finished? Did he ever start FFS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest b0f Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 I'm seriously starting to think there's some sort of Irish connection on the squad that's forcing Roeder to keep picking Carr and Duff when they're so obviously s****, like what the Brazilian's supposedly have in Barca. (Then again, they can actually play football.) Is it Shay using his clout to look out for his mates you think? Just a conspiracy, but I think it's possible. You would imagine/hope that Given wouldnt want Carr playing in front of him... useless fat idiot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 I'm seriously starting to think there's some sort of Irish connection on the squad that's forcing Roeder to keep picking Carr and Duff when they're so obviously s****, like what the Brazilian's supposedly have in Barca. (Then again, they can actually play football.) Is it Shay using his clout to look out for his mates you think? Just a conspiracy, but I think it's possible. Its not Given,its just our love for the irish Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 wtf happened to him? At Blackburn he was immense. Went to Chelski and had his moments... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 There must be a way to get Duff back to his old best though, because im sure noone can point a finger as to why hes so shiite compared to his old self. Hes not much slower compared to what he used to be as he wasnt really that fast in the first place, maybe hes not quite as quick off the mark and on the turn but thats hard to tell when hes not playing the game like he used to in the first place. I think its a mental thing - Mourinho has coached the flair out of Duff's game, and because of the immense competition, Duff has become scared to try things every time he gets the ball, which is what he used to do. Ive heard of a half-time team talk Mourinho had in a game (think it was against Brum) where Joe Cole was playing extremely well, but was performing all solo skills/dribbles, and Mourinho categorically told him in front of all the players that if he ever played like that again, hed sell him straight away. That type of "play badly once, give the ball away once, get dropped" type environment has probably killed much of Duff's game, and now hes something else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Yes,Duff can still return to his best while Luque is a mercenery who dosn't deserve to wear black and white..even though by now Luque had playes LESS then what Duff had played and scored more goals (propbly assisted more aswell).. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TêteDeMaure Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Finished? Did he ever start FFS Very good point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 He needs a decent left back behind him, simple as that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Magic Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 No, he's not finished. Of all our midfielders he's possibly the best off the ball. He leaves his wing and pops up all over the place at times. To some that's a lack of discipline, to me that's the sign of an intelligent player who's trying different things. We need to be far more flexible in attack and his ability to move around can help provide that. Look at the own goal in the first leg. After his flick he didn't saunter along and admire what he'd done like their fullback. He kept running and got in a good supporting position. Today he didn't do much on the ball, none of our midfield did much when he was on because we were too busy hoofing the ball to their team to have time to give it to the midfield. But he worked hard and did a few good things defensively. If we had a team that actually tried to pass and move then he could regain some of his past form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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