SEMTEX Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 in an instant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NSMagpie Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Given where we are, i'd take him, but he'd be some way from ideal if we weren't in the s***. I started supporting Newcastle, among all other things, because Newcastle always played attacking football wit lots of flair. The way Bolton play, defensive and unattractive, I wouldn't take him for free. But, considering the deep trouble we're in, I admit he might be a solid temporary solution for a couple of seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Given where we are, i'd take him, but he'd be some way from ideal if we weren't in the s***. I started supporting Newcastle, among all other things, because Newcastle always played attacking football wit lots of flair. The way Bolton play, defensive and unattractive, I wouldn't take him for free. But, considering the deep trouble we're in, I admit he might be a solid temporary solution for a couple of seasons. Thats what i meant by the "some way from ideal" thing - he's not a manager i'd want here, i think his tactics are insipid, he moans too much, and his insistence of a few key players who are nowhere near good enough at this level is baffling. So in many ways he is similar to Roeder, just nowhere NEAR as utterly shite. We'd probably do fairly well under Allardyce, certainly we may be in with a shout of top 6/7, and thats forward movement for us from the shitheap that wanker Roeder has put us in, so we would have to take him if we could. Mind, his head is fucking MASSIVE. he'd have to learn to stabd further away from the camera when he's on Sky. Jesus, its scary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slugsy Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 [Mind, his head is f****** MASSIVE. he'd have to learn to stabd further away from the camera when he's on Sky. Jesus, its scary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Invicta_Toon Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 he is Roeder without expectant fans and a good run in a job tbh bit of a chip on his shoulder too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 I'm with everyone else - I'd have him in a heartbeat... Personally, when it comes to off-the-field models, then Bolton is one of the benchmark clubs, and I'd be delighted if we could have a revolutionary change of structure, philosophy and dynamic at the club... If someone could dig up the uber-post posted a few weeks ago I'd be much obliged(regarding Bolton's army of support staff, their methods and even the way players input into the way other clubs do things in the search for improvement) Big Sam? Hell yes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 he is Roeder without expectant fans and a good run in a job tbh bit of a chip on his shoulder too He's far better than Roeder. Wanker Glenn would never be able to do what Fat Head has done. You're right about the chip, though. He's a bloody awful loser. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Hopefully bring Speedo back with him as well in player/coaching capacity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 he is Roeder without expectant fans and a good run in a job tbh Really? What do you see as their similarities? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 In a word yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Yep. I imagine many of us could think of people we'd rather have to some degree or other, but I've said for some time that some of his particular strengths are areas in which we're particularly weak. Cutting-edge off-field techniques, a Manager who knows his own mind and will demand the best from the Board, and the knowledge of how not to throw the ball directly to the opposition in your own half, for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Yep. I imagine many of us could think of people we'd rather have to some degree or other, but I've said for some time that some of his particular strengths are areas in which we're particularly weak. Cutting-edge off-field techniques, a Manager who knows his own mind and will demand the best from the Board, and the knowledge of how not to throw the ball directly to the opposition in your own half, for example. Get out. And take your new-fangled thinkings with you. There's no place for the likes of those ideas at SJP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Invicta_Toon Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Yep. I imagine many of us could think of people we'd rather have to some degree or other, but I've said for some time that some of his particular strengths are areas in which we're particularly weak. Cutting-edge off-field techniques, a Manager who knows his own mind and will demand the best from the Board, and the knowledge of how not to throw the ball directly to the opposition in your own half, for example. Get out. And take your new-fangled thinkings with you. There's no place for the likes of those ideas at SJP. so Roeder is a crap manager because he doesn't spend his training time with his international footballers telling them not to throw the ball to the opposition? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Yep. I imagine many of us could think of people we'd rather have to some degree or other, but I've said for some time that some of his particular strengths are areas in which we're particularly weak. Cutting-edge off-field techniques, a Manager who knows his own mind and will demand the best from the Board, and the knowledge of how not to throw the ball directly to the opposition in your own half, for example. Get out. And take your new-fangled thinkings with you. There's no place for the likes of those ideas at SJP. so Roeder is a crap manager because he doesn't spend his training time with his international footballers telling them not to throw the ball to the opposition? Yes, because they clearly need guidance on the issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest elbee909 Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 no doubt all the Luque Lovers will expect Big Sam to stick Big Albert straight back in the team? :rolleyes: Don't think there's much chance of getting Philippe back, to be honest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Yep. I imagine many of us could think of people we'd rather have to some degree or other, but I've said for some time that some of his particular strengths are areas in which we're particularly weak. Cutting-edge off-field techniques, a Manager who knows his own mind and will demand the best from the Board, and the knowledge of how not to throw the ball directly to the opposition in your own half, for example. Get out. And take your new-fangled thinkings with you. There's no place for the likes of those ideas at SJP. so Roeder is a crap manager because he doesn't spend his training time with his international footballers telling them not to throw the ball to the opposition? No, he's a crap manager for being unable to manage very well at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gemmill Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Re throw ins - why have we not been getting Gooch to do these long throw-ins a bit more? They're miles better than any Emre set-piece, judging by the one against Citeh at the weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Re throw ins - why have we not been getting Gooch to do these long throw-ins a bit more? They're miles better than any Emre set-piece, judging by the one against Citeh at the weekend. Running past the ball, as fast as we can, and slamming first face into the post would be better than Emres set pieces recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Yep. I imagine many of us could think of people we'd rather have to some degree or other, but I've said for some time that some of his particular strengths are areas in which we're particularly weak. Cutting-edge off-field techniques, a Manager who knows his own mind and will demand the best from the Board, and the knowledge of how not to throw the ball directly to the opposition in your own half, for example. Get out. And take your new-fangled thinkings with you. There's no place for the likes of those ideas at SJP. so Roeder is a crap manager because he doesn't spend his training time with his international footballers telling them not to throw the ball to the opposition? Not going to answer the question Alex put to you or will that show you up as being someone who puts in a random comment without the knowledge to actually back it up? How is he anything like Roeder? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Invicta_Toon Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Yep. I imagine many of us could think of people we'd rather have to some degree or other, but I've said for some time that some of his particular strengths are areas in which we're particularly weak. Cutting-edge off-field techniques, a Manager who knows his own mind and will demand the best from the Board, and the knowledge of how not to throw the ball directly to the opposition in your own half, for example. Get out. And take your new-fangled thinkings with you. There's no place for the likes of those ideas at SJP. so Roeder is a crap manager because he doesn't spend his training time with his international footballers telling them not to throw the ball to the opposition? Not going to answer the question Alex put to you or will that show you up as being someone who puts in a random comment without the knowledge to actually back it up? How is he anything like Roeder? down boy he's an average English type motivator and tactician who doggedly sticks by his favourite players howzzat for starters? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Definitely. Arguably one of the most European of the British bosses, if that makes any sense. He leaves very little to chance and his methods seem to be very modern. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Yep. I imagine many of us could think of people we'd rather have to some degree or other, but I've said for some time that some of his particular strengths are areas in which we're particularly weak. Cutting-edge off-field techniques, a Manager who knows his own mind and will demand the best from the Board, and the knowledge of how not to throw the ball directly to the opposition in your own half, for example. Get out. And take your new-fangled thinkings with you. There's no place for the likes of those ideas at SJP. so Roeder is a crap manager because he doesn't spend his training time with his international footballers telling them not to throw the ball to the opposition? Not going to answer the question Alex put to you or will that show you up as being someone who puts in a random comment without the knowledge to actually back it up? How is he anything like Roeder? down boy he's an average English type motivator and tactician who doggedly sticks by his favourite players howzzat for starters? You said average. Therefroe he is nothing like Roeder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Yep. I imagine many of us could think of people we'd rather have to some degree or other, but I've said for some time that some of his particular strengths are areas in which we're particularly weak. Cutting-edge off-field techniques, a Manager who knows his own mind and will demand the best from the Board, and the knowledge of how not to throw the ball directly to the opposition in your own half, for example. Get out. And take your new-fangled thinkings with you. There's no place for the likes of those ideas at SJP. so Roeder is a crap manager because he doesn't spend his training time with his international footballers telling them not to throw the ball to the opposition? Not going to answer the question Alex put to you or will that show you up as being someone who puts in a random comment without the knowledge to actually back it up? How is he anything like Roeder? down boy he's an average English type motivator and tactician who doggedly sticks by his favourite players howzzat for starters? They are both English, I will give you that one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Yep. I imagine many of us could think of people we'd rather have to some degree or other, but I've said for some time that some of his particular strengths are areas in which we're particularly weak. Cutting-edge off-field techniques, a Manager who knows his own mind and will demand the best from the Board, and the knowledge of how not to throw the ball directly to the opposition in your own half, for example. Get out. And take your new-fangled thinkings with you. There's no place for the likes of those ideas at SJP. so Roeder is a crap manager because he doesn't spend his training time with his international footballers telling them not to throw the ball to the opposition? Not going to answer the question Alex put to you or will that show you up as being someone who puts in a random comment without the knowledge to actually back it up? How is he anything like Roeder? down boy he's an average English type motivator and tactician who doggedly sticks by his favourite players howzzat for starters? I could see why someone would argue the above, excluding the bits in bold. Roeder doesn't appear to be either, nowadays... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Invicta_Toon Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Yep. I imagine many of us could think of people we'd rather have to some degree or other, but I've said for some time that some of his particular strengths are areas in which we're particularly weak. Cutting-edge off-field techniques, a Manager who knows his own mind and will demand the best from the Board, and the knowledge of how not to throw the ball directly to the opposition in your own half, for example. Get out. And take your new-fangled thinkings with you. There's no place for the likes of those ideas at SJP. so Roeder is a crap manager because he doesn't spend his training time with his international footballers telling them not to throw the ball to the opposition? Not going to answer the question Alex put to you or will that show you up as being someone who puts in a random comment without the knowledge to actually back it up? How is he anything like Roeder? down boy he's an average English type motivator and tactician who doggedly sticks by his favourite players howzzat for starters? You said average. Therefroe he is nothing like Roeder. funny how the players would rather blame the fans for their lack of confidence than the piss poor roeder though isn't it? How odd. Like to see how Bolton would perform infront of 52,000 Northern Monkeys Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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