Cajun Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Has anyone actually seen him play? Probably not but its easier to say he is shit and sleep happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 I'd hope this is a backup signing otherwise we're really skint. Just hope he's not backup for Babayaro! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes1986 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 If he's backup for Babayaro then he will be playing every other week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Backup would be fyne. But no doubt upon signing he will be 'backup' but by the time the window ends he 'was always top of my list'. I'd rather we sign a decent player who we KNOW can do a job and then sign someone like this after. Otherwise its easy to think (specially in Roeder's case) yeah we've got someone in in that positio, I'll chase other positions and end up not getting anyone else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC06 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Jesus Christ, talk about negativity. People would walk past the bloke in the street and not know who he is, but they've already decided he's s*** He played for Eintracht Frankfurt,Adanaspor,Panionios,Bursaspor so he must be world class player :uglystupid2: And you've never seen him play for any of those teams. Why not wait until you HAVE seen him? He's only on trial and he's free ffs - in other words, if he's s*** we don't have to keep him, if we do keep him, he doesn't cost a penny. How is that going to happen? The only 2 ways we are going to seen him play is either in the reserve game or if we actually sign him I cant believe that some people think he will be any good even for back up The premiership is out of his league considering his career and the clubs he played for As shit as Babayaro is i dont thing this guy will do the business even for back up The fact that he is 32 and cant play in the Greek league is enough proof for me... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gemmill Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Jesus Christ, talk about negativity. People would walk past the bloke in the street and not know who he is, but they've already decided he's s*** He played for Eintracht Frankfurt,Adanaspor,Panionios,Bursaspor so he must be world class player :uglystupid2: And you've never seen him play for any of those teams. Why not wait until you HAVE seen him? He's only on trial and he's free ffs - in other words, if he's s*** we don't have to keep him, if we do keep him, he doesn't cost a penny. How is that going to happen? The only 2 ways we are going to seen him play is either in the reserve game or if we actually sign him I cant believe that some people think he will be any good even for back up The premiership is out of his league considering his career and the clubs he played for As shit as Babayaro is i dont thing this guy will do the business even for back up The fact that he is 32 and cant play in the Greek league is enough proof for me... All of these assumptions and yet you've never once seen the bloke kick a football. You "can't believe" people think he will be good enough - nobody has said he will be, they just aren't daft enough to say that he definitely isn't having never seen him play. Do you see the difference? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Jesus Christ, talk about negativity. People would walk past the bloke in the street and not know who he is, but they've already decided he's s*** He played for Eintracht Frankfurt,Adanaspor,Panionios,Bursaspor so he must be world class player :uglystupid2: And you've never seen him play for any of those teams. Why not wait until you HAVE seen him? He's only on trial and he's free ffs - in other words, if he's s*** we don't have to keep him, if we do keep him, he doesn't cost a penny. How is that going to happen? The only 2 ways we are going to seen him play is either in the reserve game or if we actually sign him I cant believe that some people think he will be any good even for back up The premiership is out of his league considering his career and the clubs he played for As shit as Babayaro is i dont thing this guy will do the business even for back up The fact that he is 32 and cant play in the Greek league is enough proof for me... He has pretty much got to be rather underwhelming. blueyes.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Another "one for the future" to go with Sibierski eh Glenn? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Next le Sib, I'll take it :naughty: :love4: :love5: :love6: :love7: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Is he "not good enough to play in the Greek league" or has he fallen out with the manager? Was Ruud Van Nistlerooy "not good enough" to play in this league when Fergie decided to opt for Saha instead? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 I know not a lot of people are impressed with Roeder at the moment, me being one of them! However, people keep goign on about the under 25 thing...I'm sure Roeder didn't mean he would never sign anyone over this age. I think what he meant was that large amounts of money shuldn't be spent on these kinds of players. For example Campbell was on a free but he would have commanded significantly high wages especially if he knew we were interested in him. I have no doubt we will be looking at bringing in a top left back. if we are looking at the likes of this guy it will mean that Babayaro won't evem be kept around as backup. It's such a shame Roeder has made a mess of things lately because it actually looks like we were prepared to sort out the squad nice and early this summer. Oh well... No he said he'd not be signing ANYONE over 25. His words, not mine. I'd like to see the quote to back up what you have said. I know he said he'd focus on people under under 25 but I don't think he said he wouldn't sign anyone over 25. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Im pretty sure he did say he wouldn't sign anyone under 25 but I won't put a bet on it... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 A foreigner might argue that just because Shearer only played for Southampton, Blackburn & Newcastle and not one of the big 4, he's sh*t. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sniffer Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Good point Gejon. But why do I have this nagging doubt that a 32 year old being kept out of a greek side by domi won't help us too much? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 All of these assumptions and yet you've never once seen the bloke kick a football. You "can't believe" people think he will be good enough - nobody has said he will be, they just aren't daft enough to say that he definitely isn't having never seen him play. Do you see the difference? You must admit it'd be a huge coup if he's actually any good. We spot a guy who has moved to 6 different clubs in the last 6 years (including a high profile move from Banionios to Buraspor), who can't get in the Olympiakos team and comes to Newcastle at the age of 32 for a trial. If he's getting in the team I'd imagine we're in trouble. And no, I haven't seen him, but it's common sense to be a bit sceptical about this one. Let's face it the signs are not good with regards to summer spending. Baba and Carr clearly aren't up to it and we have two senior centre backs leaving for nothing, so we need a whole new back four plus one or two as backup. Even if he were backup, would it not make more sense to get a hungry young left back in from one of the lower leagues or from abroad? I only tend to like the idea of these sorts of signings if they have Premiership experience (eg Viduka or Larsson for Man Utd, Sibierski at a push). Shepherd has never given priority to the full back positions. £1m on Babayaro, £2m on Carr, Hughes free, Bernard free, £1m on Griffin. I remember under Souness we also took a 30-odd year old French left back on trial. I'll be amazed if Shepherd ever spends a significant amount on either of the full back positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Is he "not good enough to play in the Greek league" or has he fallen out with the manager? Was Ruud Van Nistlerooy "not good enough" to play in this league when Fergie decided to opt for Saha instead? To be fair, if you look at his transfer record he was either not good enough in any league or fell out with nearly every manager. But it's good to see that we aren't looking at players who are past their sell-by dates... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Don't see the problem with having a look. If we don't like him we just don't buy him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 i've seen him play and he's shite of course.. not as shite as Baba and certainly fitter than him and Bernard which actually makes him an improvement.. still pathetic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Is he "not good enough to play in the Greek league" or has he fallen out with the manager? Was Ruud Van Nistlerooy "not good enough" to play in this league when Fergie decided to opt for Saha instead? To be fair, if you looks at his transfer record he was either not good enough in any league or fell out with nearly every manager. But it's good to see that we aren't looking at players who are past their sell-by dates... On the other hand he could be soo good that everytime he has signed for a new club an offer too good to refuse has come in the next season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC06 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Is he "not good enough to play in the Greek league" or has he fallen out with the manager? Was Ruud Van Nistlerooy "not good enough" to play in this league when Fergie decided to opt for Saha instead? It doesnt matter... We all know who is RVN Have you heard this turk guy before? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 I know not a lot of people are impressed with Roeder at the moment, me being one of them! However, people keep goign on about the under 25 thing...I'm sure Roeder didn't mean he would never sign anyone over this age. I think what he meant was that large amounts of money shuldn't be spent on these kinds of players. For example Campbell was on a free but he would have commanded significantly high wages especially if he knew we were interested in him. I have no doubt we will be looking at bringing in a top left back. if we are looking at the likes of this guy it will mean that Babayaro won't evem be kept around as backup. It's such a shame Roeder has made a mess of things lately because it actually looks like we were prepared to sort out the squad nice and early this summer. Oh well... No he said he'd not be signing ANYONE over 25. His words, not mine. I'd like to see the quote to back up what you have said. I know he said he'd focus on people under under 25 but I don't think he said he wouldn't sign anyone over 25. http://www.football.co.uk/newcastle_united/roeder_eyes_young_recruits_241927.shtml "We will be looking at a lot of players between now and the start of next season and they will be young players aged 25 and under. "I do not want to bring in big names who are past their shelf-life, but players who have their best days in front of them." The thread i remember it from: http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php?topic=36428.0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sniffer Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 RVN, Japp Stamm, Beckham..doesn't matter who Fergie get's rid of if they cross him. Manure still keep rolling along winning trophies. I know who I'd rather have at the end of the day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 The point was just because a player isn't getting a game it doesn't mean he isn't good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 The point was just because a player isn't getting a game it doesn't mean he isn't good enough. True, but its more than likely, especially at a team worse than us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 As some have said, lets wait and see before we write the fella off. Although not exactly what I wanted Moore and Sibierski were a lot better than expected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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