Parky Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 even though the story is bollocks, it's fucking sad that so many people will take a huge risk like Erikson just because he would be an improvement on Roeder. Totally fucking blind, in 18 months it would be the same people saying anyone but Sven Agree with Vic we have to keep an eye on a money grabber like this.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 even though the story is bollocks, it's fucking sad that so many people will take a huge risk like Erikson just because he would be an improvement on Roeder. Totally fucking blind, in 18 months it would be the same people saying anyone but Sven Yay, lets stick with a manager who will, inevitably, make even mid table seem like a far off, promised land. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 even though the story is bollocks, it's f****** sad that so many people will take a huge risk like Erikson just because he would be an improvement on Roeder. Totally f****** blind, in 18 months it would be the same people saying anyone but Sven Yay, lets stick with a manager who will, inevitably, make even mid table seem like a far off, promised land. even though the story is bollocks, it's f****** sad that so many people will take a huge risk like Erikson just because he would be an improvement on Roeder. Totally f****** blind, in 18 months it would be the same people saying anyone but Sven Yay, lets stick with a manager who will, inevitably, make even mid table seem like a far off, promised land. And take a HUGE risk on a manager with an outstanding record at club level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 No, he couldn't get the best out of top players for England, how do people expect him to get the best out of wor lot? He's a charlatan whose record isn't that great when you pick away at it. Tactics - poor Motivation - poor Preparation - poor He's another Souness, needs a big chequebook and has built a career on a flimsy CV. But hey, he's a big name right. I'd honestly rather stick with Roeder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 No, he couldn't get the best out of top players for England, how do people expect him to get the best out of wor lot? He's a charlatan whose record isn't that great when you pick away at it. Tactics - poor Motivation - poor Preparation - poor He's another Souness, needs a big chequebook and has built a career on a flimsy CV. But hey, he's a big name right. I'd honestly rather stick with Roeder. Is it unfair to judge someone just on their international record though? Keegan was a great manager for us, but was dog poo for England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Eriksson's England record is pretty good tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 No, he couldn't get the best out of top players for England, how do people expect him to get the best out of wor lot? He's a charlatan whose record isn't that great when you pick away at it. Tactics - poor Motivation - poor Preparation - poor He's another Souness, needs a big chequebook and has built a career on a flimsy CV. But hey, he's a big name right. I'd honestly rather stick with Roeder. People don't realise he had a huge coaching staff and loads of money at Lazio...I think he ended up spending €70-80m Euro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 No, he couldn't get the best out of top players for England, how do people expect him to get the best out of wor lot? He's a charlatan whose record isn't that great when you pick away at it. Tactics - poor Motivation - poor Preparation - poor He's another Souness, needs a big chequebook and has built a career on a flimsy CV. But hey, he's a big name right. I'd honestly rather stick with Roeder. People don't realise he had a huge coaching staff and loads of money at Lazio...I think he ended up spending 70-80m Euro. Pretty sure he spent more than that. Not what we need imo fwiw. Could you imagine the (unwanted) media attention. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 After the England regime i couldn't stand him but i realise he had a very good club record which can't be ignored however he would carry a big package with him concerning the press but i'd still be for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 No, he couldn't get the best out of top players for England, how do people expect him to get the best out of wor lot? He's a charlatan whose record isn't that great when you pick away at it. Tactics - poor Motivation - poor Preparation - poor He's another Souness, needs a big chequebook and has built a career on a flimsy CV. But hey, he's a big name right. I'd honestly rather stick with Roeder. For shame. The man is going to fuck us up at least as much as Souness did. We'd be better off with a short-term manager until the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 No, he couldn't get the best out of top players for England, how do people expect him to get the best out of wor lot? He's a charlatan whose record isn't that great when you pick away at it. Tactics - poor Motivation - poor Preparation - poor He's another Souness, needs a big chequebook and has built a career on a flimsy CV. But hey, he's a big name right. I'd honestly rather stick with Roeder. Is it unfair to judge someone just on their international record though? Keegan was a great manager for us, but was dog poo for England. At Lazio he spent a lot of money, and only just won them the title. His earlier success was back in the day when Terry Venables was taking Barcelona to a European Cup Final, when George Graham, Graeme Souness and Howard Wilkinson were winning titles. Anyway, his successes mean nowt to me, if he was an excellent motivator, had good tactical skills and his teams were prepared well, that would mean more to me than a notable CV and things we should be looking at well before we look at the CV. Give me a manager with the personal skills over one with none but a half decent CV, i.e. Souness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 No, he couldn't get the best out of top players for England, how do people expect him to get the best out of wor lot? He's a charlatan whose record isn't that great when you pick away at it. Tactics - poor Motivation - poor Preparation - poor He's another Souness, needs a big chequebook and has built a career on a flimsy CV. But hey, he's a big name right. I'd honestly rather stick with Roeder. Is it unfair to judge someone just on their international record though? Keegan was a great manager for us, but was dog poo for England. At Lazio he spent a lot of money, and only just won them the title. His earlier success was back in the day when Terry Venables was taking Barcelona to a European Cup Final, when George Graham, Graeme Souness and Howard Wilkinson were winning titles. Anyway, his successes mean nowt to me, if he was an excellent motivator, had good tactical skills and his teams were prepared well, that would mean more to me than a notable CV and things we should be looking at well before we look at the CV. Give me a manager with the personal skills over one with none but a half decent CV, i.e. Souness. Someone like, say, Hitzfeld? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 No, he couldn't get the best out of top players for England, how do people expect him to get the best out of wor lot? He's a charlatan whose record isn't that great when you pick away at it. Tactics - poor Motivation - poor Preparation - poor He's another Souness, needs a big chequebook and has built a career on a flimsy CV. But hey, he's a big name right. I'd honestly rather stick with Roeder. Is it unfair to judge someone just on their international record though? Keegan was a great manager for us, but was dog poo for England. At Lazio he spent a lot of money, and only just won them the title. His earlier success was back in the day when Terry Venables was taking Barcelona to a European Cup Final, when George Graham, Graeme Souness and Howard Wilkinson were winning titles. Anyway, his successes mean nowt to me, if he was an excellent motivator, had good tactical skills and his teams were prepared well, that would mean more to me than a notable CV and things we should be looking at well before we look at the CV. Give me a manager with the personal skills over one with none but a half decent CV, i.e. Souness. Someone like, say, Hitzfeld? Who had the CV and personal skills, i.e. an complete all-rounder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 No, he couldn't get the best out of top players for England, how do people expect him to get the best out of wor lot? He's a charlatan whose record isn't that great when you pick away at it. Tactics - poor Motivation - poor Preparation - poor He's another Souness, needs a big chequebook and has built a career on a flimsy CV. But hey, he's a big name right. I'd honestly rather stick with Roeder. Flimsy CV? Won two Swedish cups, Swedish League title and UEFA Cup with IFK Goteborg. Won the Portugese League three times and Cup with Benfica(two spells) and got to the UEFA Cup final and European Cup final, Won the Italian Cup with A.S Roma. Won the Italian Cup with Sampdoria. And on top of that his time at Lazio where he won The Italian League Title Two Italian Cups 1 Cup Winners Cup. His overall record with England was very impressive in competative games, played 67 lost only 5. Yes we bottled it in the end a few times. Not the worst CV in world football if you ask me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Invicta_Toon Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 even though the story is bollocks, it's f****** sad that so many people will take a huge risk like Erikson just because he would be an improvement on Roeder. Totally f****** blind, in 18 months it would be the same people saying anyone but Sven Yay, lets stick with a manager who will, inevitably, make even mid table seem like a far off, promised land. even though the story is bollocks, it's f****** sad that so many people will take a huge risk like Erikson just because he would be an improvement on Roeder. Totally f****** blind, in 18 months it would be the same people saying anyone but Sven Yay, lets stick with a manager who will, inevitably, make even mid table seem like a far off, promised land. And take a HUGE risk on a manager with an outstanding record at club level. christ you say that like he was managing Arsenal last year take your head out your arse FFS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Invicta_Toon Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 even though the story is bollocks, it's fucking sad that so many people will take a huge risk like Erikson just because he would be an improvement on Roeder. Totally fucking blind, in 18 months it would be the same people saying anyone but Sven Yay, lets stick with a manager who will, inevitably, make even mid table seem like a far off, promised land. I bet you were one of the ones saying 'anyone but Souness' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 No, he couldn't get the best out of top players for England, how do people expect him to get the best out of wor lot? He's a charlatan whose record isn't that great when you pick away at it. Tactics - poor Motivation - poor Preparation - poor He's another Souness, needs a big chequebook and has built a career on a flimsy CV. But hey, he's a big name right. I'd honestly rather stick with Roeder. Flimsy CV? Won two Swedish cups, Swedish League title and UEFA Cup with IFK Goteborg. Won the Portugese League three times and Cup with Benfica(two spells) and got to the UEFA Cup final and European Cup final, Won the Italian Cup with A.S Roma. Won the Italian Cup with Sampdoria. And on top of that his time at Lazio where he won The Italian League Title Two Italian Cups 1 Cup Winners Cup. His overall record with England was very impressive in competative games, played 67 lost only 5. Yes we bottled it in the end a few times. Not the worst CV in world football if you ask me! OK he has a decent CV, I suggest you look beyond that though and look at Sven the manager who failed to motivate a group of highly talented players in key matches, whose tactical acumen is up there with Sounes and Roeder and whose England side played some of the most wretched uninspiring football I've ever seen. But hey, look at what he's won. Souness won titles and cups FFS, but like Sven his motivation, tactical and all-round general management skills were shite and hence we were shite under him. He's shite man, he's had his day as a manager, let some other mug take the gamble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 No, he couldn't get the best out of top players for England, how do people expect him to get the best out of wor lot? He's a charlatan whose record isn't that great when you pick away at it. Tactics - poor Motivation - poor Preparation - poor He's another Souness, needs a big chequebook and has built a career on a flimsy CV. But hey, he's a big name right. I'd honestly rather stick with Roeder. Flimsy CV? Won two Swedish cups, Swedish League title and UEFA Cup with IFK Goteborg. Won the Portugese League three times and Cup with Benfica(two spells) and got to the UEFA Cup final and European Cup final, Won the Italian Cup with A.S Roma. Won the Italian Cup with Sampdoria. And on top of that his time at Lazio where he won The Italian League Title Two Italian Cups 1 Cup Winners Cup. His overall record with England was very impressive in competative games, played 67 lost only 5. Yes we bottled it in the end a few times. Not the worst CV in world football if you ask me! OK he has a decent CV, I suggest you look beyond that though and look at Sven the manager who failed to motivate a group of highly talented players in key matches, whose tactical acumen is up there with Sounes and Roeder and whose England side played some of the most wretched uninspiring football I've ever seen. But hey, look at what he's won. Souness won titles and cups FFS, but like Sven his motivation, tactical and all-round general management skills were s**** and hence we were s**** under him. He's s**** man, he's had his day as a manager, let some other mug take the gamble. Souness won fek all compard to Eriksson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 And? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 No, he couldn't get the best out of top players for England, how do people expect him to get the best out of wor lot? He's a charlatan whose record isn't that great when you pick away at it. Tactics - poor Motivation - poor Preparation - poor He's another Souness, needs a big chequebook and has built a career on a flimsy CV. But hey, he's a big name right. I'd honestly rather stick with Roeder. Flimsy CV? Won two Swedish cups, Swedish League title and UEFA Cup with IFK Goteborg. Won the Portugese League three times and Cup with Benfica(two spells) and got to the UEFA Cup final and European Cup final, Won the Italian Cup with A.S Roma. Won the Italian Cup with Sampdoria. And on top of that his time at Lazio where he won The Italian League Title Two Italian Cups 1 Cup Winners Cup. His overall record with England was very impressive in competative games, played 67 lost only 5. Yes we bottled it in the end a few times. Not the worst CV in world football if you ask me! OK he has a decent CV, I suggest you look beyond that though and look at Sven the manager who failed to motivate a group of highly talented players in key matches, whose tactical acumen is up there with Sounes and Roeder and whose England side played some of the most wretched uninspiring football I've ever seen. But hey, look at what he's won. Souness won titles and cups FFS, but like Sven his motivation, tactical and all-round general management skills were s**** and hence we were s**** under him. He's s**** man, he's had his day as a manager, let some other mug take the gamble. Souness won fek all compard to Eriksson. The Italian Cups, the Swerdish stuff and the Cup winners are no great shakes tbh..2nd tier competitions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 If this had of come out when he left England people on these boards would have been going nuts. In fact if i remember correctly, when we were linked with him people on here were going nuts. Just goes to show how fickle some of you are. I'm sure if you looked back a year, quite a lot of people on here would have welcomed him in the summer. disagree 100% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Mag Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 [quote author=CoachHTT link=topic=38479.msg777914#msg777914 OK he has a decent CV, I suggest you look beyond that though and look at Sven the manager who failed to motivate a group of highly talented players in key matches, whose tactical acumen is up there with Sounes and Roeder and whose England side played some of the most wretched uninspiring football I've ever seen. But hey, look at what he's won. Thats hardly exclusive to Sven, England haven't looked that convincing for quite a while now tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Gerrard, Scholes, Lampard, Rooney, Owen, Terry, Ferdiand, A. Cole, J.Cole, G.Neville, Beckham - all players Sven had at his disposal yet the most notable and outstanding result of his 5 long years in charge was a 5-1 win against the worst German side in living memory. We were minutes away from not qualifying for the 2002 WC, we didn't have one shot on target when Brazil went down to 10 men in a WC QF. We were awful in the last WC, not much better in Euro 2004 and over in Japanorea, we were just as bad, one decent performance against Argentina. In friendlies were were a mess, we lost to NI away FFS, we drew with tat at home, we were often outclassed. The man is a fake whose whole career has been built on winning domestic cups and winning a title with Lazio, having spent more money than any team in the history of Serie A, a competition riddled by corruption BTW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 [quote author=CoachHTT link=topic=38479.msg777914#msg777914 OK he has a decent CV, I suggest you look beyond that though and look at Sven the manager who failed to motivate a group of highly talented players in key matches, whose tactical acumen is up there with Sounes and Roeder and whose England side played some of the most wretched uninspiring football I've ever seen. But hey, look at what he's won. Thats hardly exclusive to Sven, England haven't looked that convincing for quite a while now tbh True but given he was supposed to be this great manager, with top players, you'd think he'd take things on a level, if anything we regressed under him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest smoggeordie Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 TBF both Spain and Sweden have recently lost away at NI. It's a hard place to go nowadays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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