JH Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 If my calculations are right we can't finish any lower than 9th or 10th. Now considering we were close to relegation it's not that bad of a finish. Would prefer Europe. If that means Blackburn and Bolton losing all their games, Howay the Lads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 Aint we 6th place? If thats Correct doesnt that warrent a place in Europe?? yes but birmingham have just kicked off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Givens Glove Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 Nothing knee jerk about criticising a performance. Seems to me that the people on here defending Roieder are knee jerk reactors, because their case is based on a couple of months results. The years before tell a tale of failure where Roeder in Management is concerned. That is fact. Right , wont disagree that we were weak, but we didn't loose . Souness would have lost this one . and we would have been lower in the table as well. Stead of whinging bout Europe we'd be falling on our swords now worried about playin in the Cola . For a moment please , look down from where we come. We could be Mackems or some bottom dwellers sweating 15th . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 Typical of some Newcastle fans, Think Players are bigger than the manager. All this Luque talk is Pathetic. Agreed, its pathetic that fans are expecting a 10mill player who scored in his last outing to be put on the bench at least ahead of players we know for a fact arent good enough for Premiership football in a must win game against mediocre opposition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 Aint we 6th place? If thats Correct doesnt that warrent a place in Europe?? yes but birmingham have just kicked off Have they? Playing 2 games in a matter of hours in amazing. Well done them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Givens Glove Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 Aint we 6th place? If thats Correct doesnt that warrent a place in Europe?? yes but birmingham have just kicked off Have they? Playing 2 games in a matter of hours in amazing. Well done them Aye ! Hope they're knakered :winking: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Fox Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 Should be lookin up not down. Dont forget under Keegan we were top two, under Robson top three/four. So I dont draw any inspiration from finishing 6th or 7th. Anybody would have been an improvement after Souness, Roeder has done well, no doubt about that, but there is equally no doubt in my mind that he is not the man to get us back up to the top 3 or 4. Nobody mentioned Roeder a coupe of months ago, so all this clamour is based on a short period of time. Just an opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SLK Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 We were very poor today against Birmingham...Nothing positive to take away from the game... Chopra was CRAP Pattison was CRAP Faye was VERY CRAP Ameobi was SEMI CRAP Solano was OK N'Zogbia was OK The back four were OK especially Bramble he was GOOD... I know we have a lot of injuires in our middfield but still I can not accept such poor play... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 If my calculations are right we can't finish any lower than 9th or 10th. Now considering we were close to relegation it's not that bad of a finish. Would prefer Europe. If that means Blackburn and Bolton losing all their games, Howay the Lads We werent close to relegation though. We looked like heading into a relegation battle if the results and performances under Souness continued. We were merely at the bottom of that boat of about 7-8 teams who were stuck in mid table. The turnaround has been great and unexpected due to the tripe weve seen served under Souness, so thank you Roeder for taking us up the table, but lets not pretend that he performed miracles in taking us from "relegation" to "top 6". In previous seasons, there would have been a much bigger gap between those two poles. Like Everton finishing 4th last season, its just been that type of league this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon55544 Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 Typical of some Newcastle fans, Think Players are bigger than the manager. All this Luque talk is Pathetic. Agreed, its pathetic that fans are expecting a 10mill player who scored in his last outing to be put on the bench at least ahead of players we know for a fact arent good enough for Premiership football in a must win game against mediocre opposition. He's played more games than Chopra and has scored the same and has less assists. Price shouldnt have anything to do with it!!! If he aint proving himself in Training then he shouldnt get a game. Luque aint Proven in the Premiership yet either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 Nothing knee jerk about criticising a performance. Seems to me that the people on here defending Roieder are knee jerk reactors, because their case is based on a couple of months results. The years before tell a tale of failure where Roeder in Management is concerned. That is fact. Right , wont disagree that we were weak, but we didn't loose . Souness would have lost this one . and we would have been lower in the table as well. Stead of whinging bout Europe we'd be falling on our swords now worried about playin in the Cola . For a moment please , look down from where we come. We could be Mackems or some bottom dwellers sweating 15th . I am forever grateful to Shepherd whos firing and hiring has saved us from relegation this season. He can do no wrong now in my eyes. tongue3.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SLK Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 How on earth you play Ameobi or Chopra instead of Luque is beyond comprehension...I mean if anyone of you had seen how CRAP Ameobi and Chopra were you would think Andreas Anderson would have done better... If I need a reason not to want Roeder it is for his decision to stick with Ameobi and Chopra instead of Luque... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon55544 Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 How on earth you play Ameobi or Chopra instead of Luque is beyond comprehension...I mean if anyone of you had seen how CRAP Ameobi and Chopra were you would think Andreas Anderson would have done better... If I need a reason not to want Roeder it is for his decision to stick with Ameobi and Chopra instead of Luque... Yea and Luque has been a World Beater!!!! FFS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SLK Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 How on earth you play Ameobi or Chopra instead of Luque is beyond comprehension...I mean if anyone of you had seen how CRAP Ameobi and Chopra were you would think Andreas Anderson would have done better... If I need a reason not to want Roeder it is for his decision to stick with Ameobi and Chopra instead of Luque... Yea and Luque has been a World Beater!!!! FFS Well if he had the chance maybe he would have...Ameobi have had his chance for more than 5 years now and he is CRAP FFS...Chopra is CRAP too BTW... I mean if you can see after 5 years that Ameobi is still crap you must be braindead to still stick with him... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 MOTM: Bramble Also Shay saved our asses out there. In my eyes we didn't lose three points, we won one point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Givens Glove Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 Should be lookin up not down. Dont forget under Keegan we were top two, under Robson top three/four. So I dont draw any inspiration from finishing 6th or 7th. Anybody would have been an improvement after Souness, Roeder has done well, no doubt about that, but there is equally no doubt in my mind that he is not the man to get us back up to the top 3 or 4. Nobody mentioned Roeder a coupe of months ago, so all this clamour is based on a short period of time. Just an opinion. I'm most definitly looking up as well. Roeder knows whos coming up from the Academy, who wee ned to buy and who need to sell. To take some ammo from the "not Glenn party" , two months in the job is not enough to be replacing sombody with a man likely to sweep the broom , ensuring us yet another unstable season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tobiazvanderziaz Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 Bramble and Carr played well but as a team Birmingham were the better side. We surely didnt deserve a win so Im pretty satisfied and we can still make it with lady luck on our side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 Roeder achievements should not be measured agaimst those of Souness. All that does is flatter him. After sacking GS people on this site wanted a top flight PROVEN manager, experienced in europe etc,etc. Roeder does not fit that criteria. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Amanda Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 I thought we would have beaten birmingham, not easily but won nonetheless. They are a poor side, now relegated. Bye bye Europe, the very slim chance that we had, gone now. Given saved us again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 I thought we would have beaten birmingham, not easily but won nonetheless. They are a poor side, now relegated. Bye bye Europe, the very slim chance that we had, gone now. Given saved us again. Listen love, 3 months ago we were staring down the barrel of relegation. We couldn't score, let alone win a game. Now, because of Roeder et al we are guaranteed top half and maybe a possibility of Europe via Intertoto. You can keep your 'Bye bye Europe' comments and wake up. They're not needed or welcome. :| Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Amanda Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 fuck off and goodbye Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 Was it something I said? :roll: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Fox Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 Great Response Amanda. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicky Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 I don't think we can be TOO annoyed at todays result. We've won 5 in a row, and maybe got a bit too used to winning. We were still without Shearer, Owen (for the most part), Dyer, Parker, Emre, Bowyer and Taylor. Thats a fair few missing, and when you think just how much this meant to Birmingham, a draw isn't the end of the world... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonelaide Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 I don't think we can be TOO annoyed at todays result. We've won 5 in a row, and maybe got a bit too used to winning. We were still without Shearer, Owen (for the most part), Dyer, Parker, Emre, Bowyer and Taylor. Thats a fair few missing, and when you think just how much this meant to Birmingham, a draw isn't the end of the world... I agree with that. Not a bad result, just not what we all hoped for. That's the nature of competition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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