Leazes1986 Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Only England player i was really impressed with tonight at all was Reo Coker. He showed a bit of drive. Still nothings changed though, we should definitely go for Baines. On a different note though, on Nugent's last couple of showings i wouldn't pay anywhere near £6m for him. He hasn't got the best goalscoring record at club level really, and his finishing has been quite poor in the last couple of U21 matches. He done well for the penalty though. Jury is still out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Aye, thought Reo-Coker was good. Seems a different player for England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delima Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Can anyone miss the point on so many levels? First of all, Ramage impress me? Oh my Lord. I'm not even going to attempt to go into that. I think maybe once i said he'd rather stay here than Bramble. That's probably about it. I think England should play 4-4-2, aye. But in the first half, we had a good shape and a goal seemed fairly inevitable. They just needed to get Milner and Young on the ball a bit more. In the second half, the formation was weird and mis-shapen. Young disappeared and Routledge did naff all. It was all over the place. You better not attempt to rekindle your fond memory of Peter Ramage. You have bad memories. You do need your lord to help you. You think England should play 442. But you praise Pearce's first half 433. Ok it is not really relevant. But how is Pearce's 2nd half 442 mishapen and weird? That a winger (Routledge), or 2 if you include Young not performing well does not mean that the formation is mishapen. In your words England did well in the first half with 433. You should give credits to Pearce and say he got the tactic right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Can anyone miss the point on so many levels? First of all, Ramage impress me? Oh my Lord. I'm not even going to attempt to go into that. I think maybe once i said he'd rather stay here than Bramble. That's probably about it. I think England should play 4-4-2, aye. But in the first half, we had a good shape and a goal seemed fairly inevitable. They just needed to get Milner and Young on the ball a bit more. In the second half, the formation was weird and mis-shapen. Young disappeared and Routledge did naff all. It was all over the place. You better not attempt to rekindle your fond memory of Peter Ramage. You have bad memories. You do need your lord to help you. You think England should play 442. But you praise Pearce's first half 433. Ok it is not really relevant. But how is Pearce's 2nd half 442 mishapen and weird? That a winger (Routledge), or 2 if you include Young not performing well does not mean that the formation is mishapen. In your words England did well in the first half with 433. You should give credits to Pearce and say he got the tactic right. I did ffs. I said so during the game aswell. Second half we were all over the place though. Young ain't an out-and-out left-winger. Brummie would give a more accurate opinion but i simply don't believe it. We were all over the place come the end of the second half. We didn't use the wings (effectively anyway) and the centre of midfield was cramped. It didn't work and i don't think he should have changed a formation that was working, regardless of whether i prefer 4-4-2 in the long-run. Not got a clue what you were on about in regards to Ramage, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 I don't remember Baines making a hash of too much. Overall, I thought he looked confident, composed and supported the attack well. Got to bear in mind that it was a close match against a more than half-decent side. All our defenders, at one time, came under pressure. I thought the commentators were a bit patronising towards the Czechs, as though it was something quite praiseworthy that they held us. They're a major footballing power, and regularly produce good talent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kmdnufc Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Only England player i was really impressed with tonight at all was Reo Coker. He showed a bit of drive. Still nothings changed though, we should definitely go for Baines. On a different note though, on Nugent's last couple of showings i wouldn't pay anywhere near £6m for him. He hasn't got the best goalscoring record at club level really, and his finishing has been quite poor in the last couple of U21 matches. He done well for the penalty though. Jury is still out. Reo-Coker was outstanding (well, he wasn't brilliant, but he stood out). Baines showed he can get forward and he can get a good tackle in but his defensive frailties were prominent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Reo-Coker does play well for England U21'S though, its a case of he cares about his England place, but week in week out at a club he seems to fade away game by game as it seems to mean less and less to him. We do have some cracking young English players in the U21 squad, so who would you like to see here out of that lot?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 We do have some cracking young English players in the U21 squad, so who would you like to see here out of that lot?? Of the starters, any of them really, with three exceptions. Cahill looks okay, but wouldn't be a sufficient improvement on what we already have. Richardson looks like a big-time Charlie who thinks that now he's played for Man U and England, he's a cut above the others. If he doesn't keep trying to improve, he'll get left behind. I'm not convinced about Ashley Young. He did well in flashes, but his decision-making and composure looks a bit all over the place at the moment. He'll probably come good eventually, but I wouldn't take him on just now. And of the subs, I expected more of Routledge. He seems to have gone backwards since he left Palace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes1986 Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Ashley Young is one of the most promising players out of our U21's. Didn't have a very good game yesterday though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 We do have some cracking young English players in the U21 squad, so who would you like to see here out of that lot?? Baines. Really think he'll mature into a good player. And Milner, he looks a good prospect n'all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Ashley Young is one of the most promising players out of our U21's. Didn't have a very good game yesterday though. I didnt see the game. Where did he play? Left or right? He's far more effective when played on the right. Massively so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes1986 Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Ashley Young is one of the most promising players out of our U21's. Didn't have a very good game yesterday though. I didnt see the game. Where did he play? Left or right? He's far more effective when played on the right. Massively so. We started with Milner and Young playing off Nugent. Milner was on the right, Young on the left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Ashley Young is one of the most promising players out of our U21's. Didn't have a very good game yesterday though. I didnt see the game. Where did he play? Left or right? He's far more effective when played on the right. Massively so. We started with Milner and Young playing off Nugent. Milner was on the right, Young on the left. Then he moved to the main left-wing. Where he went invisible. So am i right in thinking he's not really effective when deployed down the left, Brummie? Suppose that shows that Pearce hasn't reviewed his squad properly. If he had of, he would know that Milner was very effective down the left whenever he played there for us last season, and Young is far better on the right. Yet he's got them the other way round. The rare quality that we've got in our squad could simply save him from his shoddy management. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes1986 Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 I really thought Pearce would turn out to be a top manager, but things aren't looking good. Think he should go down to a lower level and try and work his way back up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 So am i right in thinking he's not really effective when deployed down the left, Brummie? Suppose that shows that Pearce hasn't reviewed his squad properly. If he had of, he would know that Milner was very effective down the left whenever he played there for us last season, and Young is far better on the right. Yet he's got them the other way round. The rare quality that we've got in our squad could simply save him from his shoddy management. Yes, he looks infinitely happier on the right, he certainly did last season once he had settled down. Pearce is tactically absolutely clueless. As Dr Spectrum will attest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Spectrum Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 I'm of the opinion that Stuart Pearce is an absolute cretin. I honestly think he is thick as mince. I'm sure that by the end of this tournament everyone who has been paying attention will think the same. There are some City fans who think he's a nice bloke, that he took the City job too soon, that he'll be a good manager one day. I'm not one of them. Too many mates in the game and in the pressbox tho. Will never get the stick he deserves. I mean, 4/1 favourite to be the next England manager. There are no words. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes1986 Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 He's still one of my all time heroes, don't care how bad of a manager he's turning out to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 He's a sh*t manager and gets on my tits with all the loyal Englishman, 110% b*llocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodson Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Pearce is not much of a manager but he was a fantastic defender , maybe he should be a defensive coach instead of a manager.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 He's the absolute worst person on earth for sounding like a walking, talking directory of football cliches, too. Listen to his post match spiel, he just trots out overused football cliche after overused football cliche. I genuinely think he's just unintelligent. What is it about this country that we automatically assume former top players are going to make fantastic managers, and we give them managerial jobs way beyond their capability (I'm looking at Gareth Southgate here), then when they manage to stumble through a half decent season, we link them with the England job? They'd make much better managers if they did their time in the lower leagues and proved themselves rather than opting for a flashy job, a spell of good press, and then an opening for the England position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 At least if he's in charge of the u21s i don't have listen to him droning on about 'the football club'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Belgium vs Israel is currently on. Belgium playing well so far. Their striker Mirallas showing glimpses of promise again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Belgium down to ten men after only 19mins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roland Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Red card is a disgrace. Diving and the ref doens't see it while he is near the incident. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Most of the bookings so far have been very soft. Difficult to play naturally with such a petty ref.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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