Guest Roger Kint Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 We only offered him the contract, what, about a week ago? Give him time to mull it over, can't just expect an instant decision. You think a week is an instant decision? Its simple really, does he want to stay or not. Pretty easy really. A week is nothing. Not sure why people expect these things to go through this quickly. It's the same with some of our transfer targets, people saying 'move on' if we haven't signed someone within a couple of weeks of being linked to them. EDIT: Very naive if you believe it's 'pretty easy'. Blame Football Manager's transfer/contract module, which is pretty much based on a 1 week turn around! I'd say that's the vast majority of most people's experience. Aye thats it exactly, nothing to do with him having 6 months to think about it before the offer like, lets blame if on FM ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 We only offered him the contract, what, about a week ago? Give him time to mull it over, can't just expect an instant decision. You think a week is an instant decision? Its simple really, does he want to stay or not. Pretty easy really. A week is nothing. Not sure why people expect these things to go through this quickly. It's the same with some of our transfer targets, people saying 'move on' if we haven't signed someone within a couple of weeks of being linked to them. EDIT: Very naive if you believe it's 'pretty easy'. Its a decision over 6 months or more, even more naive to think its only dawned on him the past 7 days. How can he decide on something he was offered maybe a week ago, six months ago? He may not have been sure what he wanted to do, decided to see what was put on the table and then go from there. Like Dave said, there's also other factors like waiting to see who we sign too. Dont be stupid, he has had 6 months to decide if he wants to be here long term. The contract is apparently(yeah i know) a very good one so its either good enough to stay or it isnt. Of course there could be other factors but he will have a pretty clear idea of what he wants already before now. You've just said yourself that the contract could have been a very good one which could have changed his mind but that still doesn't mean he'll give a quick response. It's hardly rocket science. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 He's waiting to see if a better offer will turn up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novocastrian Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 We only offered him the contract, what, about a week ago? Give him time to mull it over, can't just expect an instant decision. You think a week is an instant decision? Its simple really, does he want to stay or not. Pretty easy really. A week is nothing. Not sure why people expect these things to go through this quickly. It's the same with some of our transfer targets, people saying 'move on' if we haven't signed someone within a couple of weeks of being linked to them. EDIT: Very naive if you believe it's 'pretty easy'. Its a decision over 6 months or more, even more naive to think its only dawned on him the past 7 days. How can he decide on something he was offered maybe a week ago, six months ago? He may not have been sure what he wanted to do, decided to see what was put on the table and then go from there. Like Dave said, there's also other factors like waiting to see who we sign too. I know most footballers think the world revolves around them but it's not all about him. He must realise the club need, if not an answer, at least some indication of his intentions. We do, after all, need to plan for life after him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Pards in Jose guilt trip attempt "come on Toon fans help me keep Jose" "please Jose sign the contract" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 We only offered him the contract, what, about a week ago? Give him time to mull it over, can't just expect an instant decision. You think a week is an instant decision? Its simple really, does he want to stay or not. Pretty easy really. A week is nothing. Not sure why people expect these things to go through this quickly. It's the same with some of our transfer targets, people saying 'move on' if we haven't signed someone within a couple of weeks of being linked to them. EDIT: Very naive if you believe it's 'pretty easy'. Its a decision over 6 months or more, even more naive to think its only dawned on him the past 7 days. How can he decide on something he was offered maybe a week ago, six months ago? He may not have been sure what he wanted to do, decided to see what was put on the table and then go from there. Like Dave said, there's also other factors like waiting to see who we sign too. Dont be stupid, he has had 6 months to decide if he wants to be here long term. The contract is apparently(yeah i know) a very good one so its either good enough to stay or it isnt. Of course there could be other factors but he will have a pretty clear idea of what he wants already before now. You've just said yourself that the contract could have been a very good one which could have changed his mind but that still doesn't mean he'll give a quick response. It's hardly rocket science. The point being he will know what he wants beforehand so the contract will just confirm what he is going to do. I doubt it will change his mind as we wont be offering groundbreaking money or owt. Didnt think it needed to be explained but never mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 He's waiting to see if a better offer will turn up. He's gone one way or the other. Just a question of whether it'll be this summer or next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 I'm sure we could give him some sort of clause similar to what we've supposedly offered Nolan, but whereby if he signs a long-term deal and we don't finish 7th or higher or whatever, he can leave for a fixed price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 We only offered him the contract, what, about a week ago? Give him time to mull it over, can't just expect an instant decision. You think a week is an instant decision? Its simple really, does he want to stay or not. Pretty easy really. A week is nothing. Not sure why people expect these things to go through this quickly. It's the same with some of our transfer targets, people saying 'move on' if we haven't signed someone within a couple of weeks of being linked to them. EDIT: Very naive if you believe it's 'pretty easy'. Blame Football Manager's transfer/contract module, which is pretty much based on a 1 week turn around! I'd say that's the vast majority of most people's experience. Aye thats it exactly, nothing to do with him having 6 months to think about it before the offer like, lets blame if on FM ffs I was speaking in a broader sense, like! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 He should piss off pronto. Don't want this saga dragging on all summer, just sell him and focus on getting in a replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 We only offered him the contract, what, about a week ago? Give him time to mull it over, can't just expect an instant decision. You think a week is an instant decision? Its simple really, does he want to stay or not. Pretty easy really. A week is nothing. Not sure why people expect these things to go through this quickly. It's the same with some of our transfer targets, people saying 'move on' if we haven't signed someone within a couple of weeks of being linked to them. EDIT: Very naive if you believe it's 'pretty easy'. Its a decision over 6 months or more, even more naive to think its only dawned on him the past 7 days. How can he decide on something he was offered maybe a week ago, six months ago? He may not have been sure what he wanted to do, decided to see what was put on the table and then go from there. Like Dave said, there's also other factors like waiting to see who we sign too. Dont be stupid, he has had 6 months to decide if he wants to be here long term. The contract is apparently(yeah i know) a very good one so its either good enough to stay or it isnt. Of course there could be other factors but he will have a pretty clear idea of what he wants already before now. You've just said yourself that the contract could have been a very good one which could have changed his mind but that still doesn't mean he'll give a quick response. It's hardly rocket science. The point being he will know what he wants beforehand so the contract will just confirm what he is going to do. I doubt it will change his mind as we wont be offering groundbreaking money or owt. Didnt think it needed to be explained but never mind. It might have changed his mind, though. Nobody knows that. We also don't know what he's been told alongside the contract offer which could also influence his decision which could be what the deal hinges on. You still seem to think it's as easy as giving a yes or no answer when it's a lot more complex than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 I'm sure we could give him some sort of clause similar to what we've supposedly offered Nolan, but whereby if he signs a long-term deal and we don't finish 7th or higher or whatever, he can leave for a fixed price. That's what I was thinking the other day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 We only offered him the contract, what, about a week ago? Give him time to mull it over, can't just expect an instant decision. You think a week is an instant decision? Its simple really, does he want to stay or not. Pretty easy really. A week is nothing. Not sure why people expect these things to go through this quickly. It's the same with some of our transfer targets, people saying 'move on' if we haven't signed someone within a couple of weeks of being linked to them. EDIT: Very naive if you believe it's 'pretty easy'. Its a decision over 6 months or more, even more naive to think its only dawned on him the past 7 days. How can he decide on something he was offered maybe a week ago, six months ago? He may not have been sure what he wanted to do, decided to see what was put on the table and then go from there. Like Dave said, there's also other factors like waiting to see who we sign too. Dont be stupid, he has had 6 months to decide if he wants to be here long term. The contract is apparently(yeah i know) a very good one so its either good enough to stay or it isnt. Of course there could be other factors but he will have a pretty clear idea of what he wants already before now. You've just said yourself that the contract could have been a very good one which could have changed his mind but that still doesn't mean he'll give a quick response. It's hardly rocket science. The point being he will know what he wants beforehand so the contract will just confirm what he is going to do. I doubt it will change his mind as we wont be offering groundbreaking money or owt. Didnt think it needed to be explained but never mind. It might have changed his mind, though. Nobody knows that. We also don't know what he's been told alongside the contract offer which could also influence his decision which could be what the deal hinges on. You still seem to think it's as easy as giving a yes or no answer when it's a lot more complex than that. A yes or no answer based on 6 months of thinking, a simple fact you want to ingore. You can pretend otherwise but imo he knows what he wants on way or the other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 We only offered him the contract, what, about a week ago? Give him time to mull it over, can't just expect an instant decision. You think a week is an instant decision? Its simple really, does he want to stay or not. Pretty easy really. A week is nothing. Not sure why people expect these things to go through this quickly. It's the same with some of our transfer targets, people saying 'move on' if we haven't signed someone within a couple of weeks of being linked to them. EDIT: Very naive if you believe it's 'pretty easy'. Blame Football Manager's transfer/contract module, which is pretty much based on a 1 week turn around! I'd say that's the vast majority of most people's experience. Aye thats it exactly, nothing to do with him having 6 months to think about it before the offer like, lets blame if on FM ffs I was speaking in a broader sense, like! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 We only offered him the contract, what, about a week ago? Give him time to mull it over, can't just expect an instant decision. You think a week is an instant decision? Its simple really, does he want to stay or not. Pretty easy really. A week is nothing. Not sure why people expect these things to go through this quickly. It's the same with some of our transfer targets, people saying 'move on' if we haven't signed someone within a couple of weeks of being linked to them. EDIT: Very naive if you believe it's 'pretty easy'. Its a decision over 6 months or more, even more naive to think its only dawned on him the past 7 days. How can he decide on something he was offered maybe a week ago, six months ago? He may not have been sure what he wanted to do, decided to see what was put on the table and then go from there. Like Dave said, there's also other factors like waiting to see who we sign too. Dont be stupid, he has had 6 months to decide if he wants to be here long term. The contract is apparently(yeah i know) a very good one so its either good enough to stay or it isnt. Of course there could be other factors but he will have a pretty clear idea of what he wants already before now. You've just said yourself that the contract could have been a very good one which could have changed his mind but that still doesn't mean he'll give a quick response. It's hardly rocket science. The point being he will know what he wants beforehand so the contract will just confirm what he is going to do. I doubt it will change his mind as we wont be offering groundbreaking money or owt. Didnt think it needed to be explained but never mind. It might have changed his mind, though. Nobody knows that. We also don't know what he's been told alongside the contract offer which could also influence his decision which could be what the deal hinges on. You still seem to think it's as easy as giving a yes or no answer when it's a lot more complex than that. A yes or no answer based on 6 months of thinking, a simple fact you want to ingore. You can pretend otherwise but imo he knows what he wants on way or the other. Nevermind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 We only offered him the contract, what, about a week ago? Give him time to mull it over, can't just expect an instant decision. You think a week is an instant decision? Its simple really, does he want to stay or not. Pretty easy really. A week is nothing. Not sure why people expect these things to go through this quickly. It's the same with some of our transfer targets, people saying 'move on' if we haven't signed someone within a couple of weeks of being linked to them. EDIT: Very naive if you believe it's 'pretty easy'. Its a decision over 6 months or more, even more naive to think its only dawned on him the past 7 days. How can he decide on something he was offered maybe a week ago, six months ago? He may not have been sure what he wanted to do, decided to see what was put on the table and then go from there. Like Dave said, there's also other factors like waiting to see who we sign too. Dont be stupid, he has had 6 months to decide if he wants to be here long term. The contract is apparently(yeah i know) a very good one so its either good enough to stay or it isnt. Of course there could be other factors but he will have a pretty clear idea of what he wants already before now. You've just said yourself that the contract could have been a very good one which could have changed his mind but that still doesn't mean he'll give a quick response. It's hardly rocket science. The point being he will know what he wants beforehand so the contract will just confirm what he is going to do. I doubt it will change his mind as we wont be offering groundbreaking money or owt. Didnt think it needed to be explained but never mind. It might have changed his mind, though. Nobody knows that. We also don't know what he's been told alongside the contract offer which could also influence his decision which could be what the deal hinges on. You still seem to think it's as easy as giving a yes or no answer when it's a lot more complex than that. A yes or no answer based on 6 months of thinking, a simple fact you want to ingore. You can pretend otherwise but imo he knows what he wants on way or the other. Nevermind. Yeah silly me thinking he could possibly know what he wants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Pretty sure Jose knows if he wants to stay or not, and what terms would possibly coax him into staying etc. Signing a multi million pound contract obviosly isn't as straight forward as it seems, but if it's in the back of his mind that he wants out, he'll more than likely be gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Club simply have to give him 48 hrs to suggest what his intentions are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Club simply have to give him 48 hrs to suggest what his intentions are. then what, transfer list him so his price drops even further ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Club simply have to give him 48 hrs to suggest what his intentions are. then what, transfer list him so his price drops even further ? No you play hardball. Tell him he won't be going until he hands a transfer request. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Club simply have to give him 48 hrs to suggest what his intentions are. then what, transfer list him so his price drops even further ? Not 48 hours for a decision but for contact, he cannot just fkn ignore them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Club simply have to give him 48 hrs to suggest what his intentions are. then what, transfer list him so his price drops even further ? Not 48 hours for a decision but for contact, he cannot just fkn ignore them he can and seemingly is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 The next decision will define the rest of his career, so I can understand him wanting to take his time. I actually think he'll struggle to get an offer from a bigger club, or one with better prospects. He may get an opportunity but those clubs might well have other targets who they prefer to go for at this early stage. Providing he's happy with the club and the area, he'd be as well to throw in his lot with us. I certainly don't think he'll get an offer from a risk-free mega-club eg Man U, Chelsea, Barca, Arsenal etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 The other headlines this has generated Alan Pardew pessimistic over future of Liverpool target Jose Enrique: It looks ... Goal.com - Mark Fordham - 24 minutes ago Pardew plays Enrique waiting game Soccerway - 4 minutes ago Enrique may not sign new deal ESPN Magpies hit Enrique impasse Belfast Telegraph Newcastle losing battle to keep Enrique MirrorFootball.co.uk - 21 minutes ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 From the two quotes on the previous page, where has Pardew said that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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