José Enrique

[Dave]

No ambition because we sold Carroll man? Christ are people still using that card?

 

I agree, it's totally short sighted.

 

If we manage to get 6 players out of the money, I say it shows more ambition than keeping him and only having enough money for 1-2 players.

 

That's exactly the point. Is it really such a stretch of the imagination to believe that Enrique (and Barton etc) are as unsure it will be spent as many of us fans?

[GM]

Didn't Tiote supposedly double his wages with that new deal? Just saying.

 

Greedy c***.

 

I know you're being sarcastic for comedic effect there, Wullie...but you're right actually.

 

Give over.

 

He probably came in on a low wage, and when we recognised he was on a par with our best players, we give him a payrise to reflect that.

 

Ah, na man, I'm kidding. But this whole thread is such a fricking shit fest.

[Guest]

Fair do.

[johnnypd]

Didn't Tiote supposedly double his wages with that new deal? Just saying.

 

Greedy c***.

 

I know you're being sarcastic for comedic effect there, Wullie...but you're right actually.

 

Give over.

 

He probably came in on a low wage, and when we recognised he was on a par with our best players, we give him a payrise to reflect that.

 

iirc paul merson was saying he was our lowest paid player at the start of the season. not sure how he'd know mind...

[Dinho lad]

So does anyone actually want to sign Enrique? Yes, it seems like he dosen't want to sign a new contract, but it also looks like no one is prepared to come in for him either.

[Dave]

Didn't Tiote supposedly double his wages with that new deal? Just saying.

 

Greedy c***.

 

I know you're being sarcastic for comedic effect there, Wullie...but you're right actually.

 

Give over.

 

He probably came in on a low wage, and when we recognised he was on a par with our best players, we give him a payrise to reflect that.

 

You brought it up man.

[Guest]

Didn't Tiote supposedly double his wages with that new deal? Just saying.

 

Greedy c***.

 

I know you're being sarcastic for comedic effect there, Wullie...but you're right actually.

 

Give over.

 

He probably came in on a low wage, and when we recognised he was on a par with our best players, we give him a payrise to reflect that.

 

You brought it up man.

 

Because if Tiote wasn't happy with where the club was going he could have decided not to bother signing it and he could have went to a bigger club this summer where he'd have got that payrise anyway.

[BONTEMPI]

No ambition because we sold Carroll man? Christ are people still using that card?

 

I agree, it's totally short sighted.

 

If we manage to get 6 players out of the money, I say it shows more ambition than keeping him and only having enough money for 1-2 players.

 

That's exactly the point. Is it really such a stretch of the imagination to believe that Enrique (and Barton etc) are as unsure it will be spent as many of us fans?

 

Time will tell

 

But if all they are doing is waiting for the same as the rest of us, why not come out and say they are commited to see the remainder of their contracts out.  Keeping silent just invites other clubs to come sniffing.

[Dave]

Didn't Tiote supposedly double his wages with that new deal? Just saying.

 

Greedy c***.

 

I know you're being sarcastic for comedic effect there, Wullie...but you're right actually.

 

Give over.

 

He probably came in on a low wage, and when we recognised he was on a par with our best players, we give him a payrise to reflect that.

 

You brought it up man.

 

Because if Tiote wasn't happy with where the club was going he could have decided not to bother signing it and he could have went to a bigger club this summer where he'd have got that payrise anyway.

 

He'd have signed it whatever happened, you know that as well as I do.

[Guest]

Didn't Tiote supposedly double his wages with that new deal? Just saying.

 

Greedy c***.

 

I know you're being sarcastic for comedic effect there, Wullie...but you're right actually.

 

Give over.

 

He probably came in on a low wage, and when we recognised he was on a par with our best players, we give him a payrise to reflect that.

 

You brought it up man.

 

Because if Tiote wasn't happy with where the club was going he could have decided not to bother signing it and he could have went to a bigger club this summer where he'd have got that payrise anyway.

 

He'd have signed it whatever happened, you know that as well as I do.

 

But does it not show Enrique "ambition" that we want to keep our better players by the fact we're offering him that to keep him?

[Dave]

What, them putting him on reasonable wages more reflective of his ability instead of shit wages? Not particularly, IMO.

[Guest]

What, them putting him on reasonable wages more reflective of his ability instead of s*** wages? Not particularly, IMO.

 

If we didn't want to move forward I'm sure we would have happily kept him on the same contract and accepted £12-15m this summer for him.

[Wullie]

What, them putting him on reasonable wages more reflective of his ability instead of shit wages? Not particularly, IMO.

 

He's probably not daft enough to forget the fact that Carroll signed a new deal in October either.

[Hanshithispantz]

What, them putting him on reasonable wages more reflective of his ability instead of s*** wages? Not particularly, IMO.

 

If we didn't want to move forward I'm sure we would have happily kept him on the same contract and accepted £12-15m this summer for him.

This.

 

Surely Mickey and Dezza, been the evil little bastards that they are, would not have offered Tiote a contract at all, in the hope that he would become upset and try to force a £15m move to Chelsea... Que Pardew's controversial comments to the media about Tiote been a greedy cunt.

[Dave]

Nice straw man there.

[Guest]

What, them putting him on reasonable wages more reflective of his ability instead of s*** wages? Not particularly, IMO.

 

He's probably not daft enough to forget the fact that Carroll signed a new deal in October either.

 

And then wanted another one 3 months later didn't he? Which is why he was told if he wanted to leave he had to put it in writing. He was also told we'd sit down with him at the end of the season. I bet the October contract put him on a par with the highest paid of our "new" contracts.

[Wullie]

What, them putting him on reasonable wages more reflective of his ability instead of s*** wages? Not particularly, IMO.

 

He's probably not daft enough to forget the fact that Carroll signed a new deal in October either.

 

And then wanted another one 3 months later didn't he? Which is why he was told if he wanted to leave he had to put it in writing. He was also told we'd sit down with him at the end of the season. I bet the October contract put him on a par with the highest paid of our "new" contracts.

 

Irrelevant to the issue. The point is that the club will sell players if a bid comes in regardless of whether they have a new deal or not, so Tiote's new deal would have no effect on Jose whatsoever, because he knows this. Ambition comes in the form of saying no to offers.

[Guest]

What, them putting him on reasonable wages more reflective of his ability instead of s*** wages? Not particularly, IMO.

 

He's probably not daft enough to forget the fact that Carroll signed a new deal in October either.

 

And then wanted another one 3 months later didn't he? Which is why he was told if he wanted to leave he had to put it in writing. He was also told we'd sit down with him at the end of the season. I bet the October contract put him on a par with the highest paid of our "new" contracts.

 

Irrelevant to the issue. The point is that the club will sell players if a bid comes in regardless of whether they have a new deal or not, so Tiote's new deal would have no effect on Jose whatsoever, because he knows this. Ambition comes in the form of saying no to offers.

 

We turned down £30m for Andy Carroll. It also comes a point where no matter how much you want to keep a player, money talks. £35m was mental money.

[Dave]

What, them putting him on reasonable wages more reflective of his ability instead of s*** wages? Not particularly, IMO.

 

He's probably not daft enough to forget the fact that Carroll signed a new deal in October either.

 

And then wanted another one 3 months later didn't he? Which is why he was told if he wanted to leave he had to put it in writing. He was also told we'd sit down with him at the end of the season. I bet the October contract put him on a par with the highest paid of our "new" contracts.

 

Irrelevant to the issue. The point is that the club will sell players if a bid comes in regardless of whether they have a new deal or not, so Tiote's new deal would have no effect on Jose whatsoever, because he knows this. Ambition comes in the form of saying no to offers.

 

We turned down £30m for Andy Carroll. It also comes a point where no matter how much you want to keep a player, money talks. £35m was mental money.

 

Mental money if it's suitably reinvested into the first team. Until that happens it's meaningless to me like, sorry.

[Guest]

Mental money if it's suitably reinvested into the first team. Until that happens it's meaningless to me like, sorry.

 

And since then we've given Tiote a new contract, signed Cabaye, and are in the market for players.

[Disco]

Remember even thought it'll be made out that Jose is the devil incarnate not to boo him other Dekka will come out and mace the lot of you. Especially you old L7 cunts, he'll mace you then egg you.

[Dave]

Mental money if it's suitably reinvested into the first team. Until that happens it's meaningless to me like, sorry.

 

And since then we've given Tiote a new contract, signed Cabaye, and are in the market for players.

 

We've been over the Tiote contract, it was obvious that was going to happen in hindsight. He was far better than they expected and so they should revise his terms.

 

So we've signed one player, by paying the bare minimum we could. I know nothing of the player and hopefully he's great for us, but I doubt we'd have even been in for him had it not been for this clause.

 

There's ages to go in this transfer window and we'll see. The jury is still out for me, and I'd expect most people including Jose Enrique. Being linked to players means nothing if they don't come.

[Guest]

Mental money if it's suitably reinvested into the first team. Until that happens it's meaningless to me like, sorry.

 

And since then we've given Tiote a new contract, signed Cabaye, and are in the market for players.

 

We've been over the Tiote contract, it was obvious that was going to happen in hindsight. He was far better than they expected and so they should revise his terms.

 

So we've signed one player, by paying the bare minimum we could. I know nothing of the player and hopefully he's great for us, but I doubt we'd have even been in for him had it not been for this clause.

 

There's ages to go in this transfer window and we'll see. The jury is still out for me, and I'd expect most people including Jose Enrique.

 

So why's he not telling the club this when we're trying to contact him about his contract to say, "I want to see what players arrive first", or whatever, rather than the silent treatment?

[Hanshithispantz]

Nice straw man there.

Thanks

 

Seriously though, the facts are that Tiote was offered a new contract and signed it, Enrique was offered a new contract declined it, claiming he will wait to see where we are. I don't think it's a matter of him feeling the contract offered is under valued, or him becoming disillusioned at our lack of ambition, it's just that he knows bigger clubs than us are keeping tabs on him (if he doesn't get his dream move this summer he certainly will next year on a free). There isn't much we can do tbf.

 

Pardew's comments in the media may be in the interest of maintaining the clubs image, they may be in the interest of forcing Jose's hand, it doesn't realy matter, Jose not signing a new contract is the last thing the club will want imo.

[Dave]

Mental money if it's suitably reinvested into the first team. Until that happens it's meaningless to me like, sorry.

 

And since then we've given Tiote a new contract, signed Cabaye, and are in the market for players.

 

We've been over the Tiote contract, it was obvious that was going to happen in hindsight. He was far better than they expected and so they should revise his terms.

 

So we've signed one player, by paying the bare minimum we could. I know nothing of the player and hopefully he's great for us, but I doubt we'd have even been in for him had it not been for this clause.

 

There's ages to go in this transfer window and we'll see. The jury is still out for me, and I'd expect most people including Jose Enrique.

 

So why's he not telling the club this when we're trying to contact him about his contract to say, "I want to see what players arrive first", or whatever, rather than the silent treatment?

 

How do you know he hasn't? Do you honestly believe he's just turned his phone off, acting like a child?