ToonTastic

That wasn't the whole reason why he wanted a transfer though.

Nice thoughts but far to much to ever happen. I can't see NUST raising anywhere near enough money to get a share in a club and it should be forced upon a new owner. If they want a share they have to pay simple as. if NUST believe the pledges really are worth £20m can someone please tell me why they havn't got in touch with Moat who apparently already has £60m available now and said here's £20m we want 25% and you can now afford the club ? Simply because pledges are worth nothing.

Again though, nobody other than fans have said that the debt to Ashley goes with the club. The wages for Butt and Geremi are only a problem for this season as they'll be out of contract after this season. Our running costs should be no higher than the proportionate running costs of other clubs in the same division, as long as we're not stupid and throwing money around as if we can print our own. We would have extra income from an increased gate and we would have sponsorship which is additional to what we have now. We only had debt because we were living beyond our means. The ground extension was £44 million, I think some of the debt was also because of the training facilities but that doesn't account for anything like £120 million. I don't think it would cost anything like £300 million, I think in total it would be half that if the loans to Ashley were not part of the sale. Butt and Geremi we're just examples, theres plenty more on top dollar at the club which is a huge problem if we don't go up. You say if you don't include the loans which I am including as I'm almost certain they are included. So that's £80m for the club, 120m loan so theres £200m straight away. Wage of new players in January window and any transfer costs. New backroom staff, new board members, new scouts, new manager, writing off contracts of any players you need to get rid of, you've got to be looking at near £50m. And then £50m on transfers once we are in the Premiership just to keep us in the Premiership. There you go £300m.

This is probably one of the major reasons

Did Moat or somebody close to him not say that he was close to the £80 million asking price just after the club was taken off the market? Nobody other than fans guessing have ever mentioned anything about the debt being included in the sale. No it was the papers they just assumed at the start, it then appears this wasn't true.

They have, they offered what they thought was a fair price £60m upfront and £20m at the end of the season. Seems fair enough to me.

The problem with that is that the majority of these gate receipts have already been recieved by Ashley for this year in the form of season tickets, and some for next year too. If these supporters boycotted the games the only people they are hurting are themselves by not getting the matches they have already paid for. To be honest it's probably just over half which have been paid for 20k season ticket holders, 5k away fans.

£120m debt owed to the chairman after he removed it from the banks (despite the fact it was only costing us £4m a year and was the loan to increase capacity in the stadium). Wages of alot more than the money we had/have coming in. £50m to keep us in the premiership next year and we would still need to shift top earners at the club like Geremi and Butt. Money needed to strengthen the club this season. No real coaching set up, scouting set up, boardroom staff and no manger. This club will probably cost the new owner about £300m to sort all that out and that's just keeping us in the Premiership if we get there.

I don't remember Given or N'Zogbia or even Milner for that matter saying it was donw to the fans protests that they left. They left because of a chairman who wasn't willing to back the team, Milner in the fact he wanted the cash from selling the player and Given and N'zogbia because they didn't feel the club was going anywhere.

i'm supposed to be decorating the front room. i may well go on strike. lol

That doesn't make sense though, he isn't making any money from NUFC, or 'draining anything out'... he's losing millions. And protests and boycotts do little more than make us even more unattractive to serious bidders (if that's possible) thereby prolonging Ashley's ownership. i.e. the protesters end up achieving the opposite of what they want. You couldn't make it up. Where does this idea come from ??

Yep Daves right that would be better.

Nice bloke mind

Yes, because that would have helped us enormously. Would have saved us wasting our wages on the injured, overpaid prick. 'our' wages? yes ?? What's the problem ?

You say it like Joey Barton was a 29 year old striker down the pecking who had suffered two major knee injuries recently. Barton also wasn't sentenced to 18 months. While I do agree that they've done a damn good thing in sacking him. We all know if Barton had been sacked someone would have picked him up for free when he came out. He is for all his crimes a salable asset. Nothing to stop us keeping his registration so a club still had to buy him from us.

Yes, because that would have helped us enormously. Would have saved us wasting our wages on the injured, overpaid prick. Just about the only time the manager at the time seemed to get any say in a player staying/going. Yep Keegan made a huge mistake then. Maybe he thought if he wasn't going to get a say in player purchases that he needed him but it was still the wrong choice.

The annoying thing is I gather it was very much Ashley's decision, and lots of people were advising him against it. As I said, he brought to the job this attitude of wanting to be one of the fans, and while I don't think any of them were putting forward Keegan's name as he sat there in the stands, Ashley had this head-in-the-clouds mindset and it seems he couldn't resist organising the Messiah's return. Ashley has a history in business of achieving success through bold and unorthodox decisions. Despite all the indications that Keegan would be a round peg in a square hole, he still backed his judgement against people who were in a position to know better. It's been a big dose of humble pie ever since. He didn't back his own judgement all the way though else he would have only employed KK and there would be no middle man. He would then have took notice of KK a man who has been there and done it unlike him and his cronies. As for his bold and unorthodox business decisions, I mentioned when he became manager what I thought of him and his business ideas and why I straight away said I didn't want him as our owner and it would be a mistake.

Yes, because that would have helped us enormously. Would have saved us wasting our wages on the injured, overpaid prick. 'our' wages? yes ??

No he wouldn't. He doesn't own the whole of Sports Direct and that business has it's own advertising budget which is not his money it's the business of Sports Directs money.

Yes, because that would have helped us enormously. Would have saved us wasting our wages on the injured, overpaid prick.

I've not been buying them since the whole FS/DH thing in the brothel so that would just keep on going.

Big thick piece of shit and the helm though remember He probably thinks if he can still get 44k turn up for football matches they will still buy the shirt and many will.

Depends I guess if he can manage to get Sports Direct to be the shirt sponsor and Lonsdale as the shirt makers with cash coming from both.