jimmymag

If he's as fragile as you suggest he wasn't/isn't worth the money we paid for him.

He's been here 2 months now. How long do you suggest we give him to "acclimatise"? For fucks sake the winter's just setting in, perhaps we'll see him in April. I'd like to see him start as much as anyone else, but there's no point rushing him if he's not ready. Maybe he genuinely ISN'T ready. Maybe he's just not up to the league at the minute. Bernard had to be kicked about at Darlo for months before he got to grips with the physical nature of the league. He'll start to get more pitch time, I'm sure. £6 million price tag, nicknamed The Bull, 21 year old professional athlete. For fucks sake why are we wrapping him in cotton wool?! I can only come up with two possible reasons, either he's not fit or he's mentally not strong enough. I'm worried.

Yes still no sign of the chuckle brothers yet. They are too busy setting the forum straight on whether we need defenders or not in another thread. I'm amazed they haven't noticed this one. I'm not, but I'm taking their silence as an admission that they can't defend the fat one any longer.

He's been here 2 months now. How long do you suggest we give him to "acclimatise"? For fucks sake the winter's just setting in, perhaps we'll see him in April.

Enrique's got 10 years on Cacapa, he cost more than £6 million, we desperately need a left back. I don't see any valid reason why Enrique is not our starting left back like now.

...and could kick a football, and could grow about 6 more inches.....well....

A quote from Sam in the Chronicle this week: "What has made N’Zogbia’s start to the season so much better is that he has been playing out of position at left-back, while new boy Jose Enrique has been building up fitness after signing from Villarreal." Gives me the distinct impression that Enrique's still not fit. That's why I asked the question.

How long should it take a 21 year old professional athlete, who cost over £6 million, to get match fit so that he can play Premiership football on a regular basis?

Jesus Wept! I can't believe that Newcastle "supporters" are actually advocating sacking Sam Allardyce. Why don't you post '92 band wagon merchants just fuck off and support one of the "big four" you glory hunting cunts!

Welcome to Knee Jerk City! We are moving in the right direction after years of going backwards and, according to Mort, were on the brink of going bust. We should be dancing in the streets celebrating our good fortune, instead some knackers want to compare us to a Sunday pub team. UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE!!!!

So you're unhappy with our best start to a season in six years then you knacker!? Sam's done a great job in a short space of time and I'm sure the style of play will evolve over time. Patience is a virtue that some Newcastle "supporters" don't seem to possess.

The silence on this topic from NE5 and HTL is deafening.

FUCK IT!!!

TIT!

Is that the best you can do this time, trying to defend the indefensible! FFS is, was and always will be a twat, totally out of his depth running a business as big as NUFC.

I think it's very important that we have at least one Geordie on the playing staff who can link the history of the club and the passion of the fans back to the dressing room. I think that Taylor has the potential to be our John Terry or our Tony Adams, the heart beat of our club. We should pay him the going rate for promising young talent at our club, on a par with N'Zogbia or Milner, and I'd be disappointed if he was dissatisfied with that.

Taylor's PR in this matter has been utter crap. Well what can you expect when he doesn't come across as one of the brightest and he's being advised by his Dad. He needs to take a step back, sit down and talk it out with Sam and Mort and not conduct his business through the papers. He's going to do his relationship with the fans a lot of harm if he carries on like this, and as I'm of the opinion that he could become a great asset to the club given time, I don't want see any more of this shit in the papers.

It's called persecution and it's a word that hasn't been used throughout this whole debate. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution

No. Fowler and Baggio two peas in a pod.

No we don't "need a Heskey". Owen will do just fine playing alongside the strikers we've got. If we create chances Owen will score, just as he's always done throughout his career. I'm pretty confident, with the tactical variations Sam's got at his disposal within the squad, that we will create plenty of chances and I've taken 20/1 about him being top Premiership goal scorer this season.

I couldn't care a toss about Leeds, Bates or Shepherd but I find it hilarious that Freddie's love children still feel the need to carry on defending him. He's Henry VIII, history. I prefer to look forward to NUFC's future without him.

Well I'd defy anyone to read Sir Bob's autobiography, and come away with the conclusion that he wasn't undermined by Shepherd. Sir Bob only started appearing at Freddie's side when the team was starting to flounder under Roeder, and the fans were starting to publicly turn on Freddie. At the same time, Freddie was starting to try and sell the idea that the Halls were undermining his work, and, by implication, that they were responsible for the position the club was in. Sir Bob is a forgiving soul, but in this case I think he was being used. When Shepherd announced to the world that SBR's contract would not be renewed at the end of the 2004/2005 season he made SBR a lame duck manager that the likes of Dire and Bellamy where only too happy to take advantage of. To conclude that Shepherd did not undermine SBR is mind boggling really! I was waiting for someone to come back with the "comments made by Fred" bit because it's just so obvious, and of course this would have undermined the manager given that some of the players were crap professionals. The thing is, the lack of respect from the players didn't happen overnight, it would have grown over time and become obvious to the Board and the Halls and is what led to those in charge beginning to doubt Robson. As I said after we finished 3rd, Robson should have gone then when we were on a high, that was another mistake by the Board and the Halls. Apart from irrational hatred I'm not at all sure why you're lumping Bellamy in with Dyer. Perhaps you can explain? It can only be irrational love and respect for Shepherd that you can conclude that he never undermined SBR! If some players didn't have respect for SBR then that's more damning of them than Sir Bobby. Anyway, that's all in the past, the cancer has been cut out of the club, and I'm more than happy to move on and look forward to the future with renewed optimism..... .....but I'm still astounded that you feel that Shepherd never undermined Sir Bobby.

Well I'd defy anyone to read Sir Bob's autobiography, and come away with the conclusion that he wasn't undermined by Shepherd. Sir Bob only started appearing at Freddie's side when the team was starting to flounder under Roeder, and the fans were starting to publicly turn on Freddie. At the same time, Freddie was starting to try and sell the idea that the Halls were undermining his work, and, by implication, that they were responsible for the position the club was in. Sir Bob is a forgiving soul, but in this case I think he was being used. When Shepherd announced to the world that SBR's contract would not be renewed at the end of the 2004/2005 season he made SBR a lame duck manager that the likes of Dire and Bellamy where only too happy to take advantage of. To conclude that Shepherd did not undermine SBR is mind boggling really!

I think you should include "AND MOST PESSIMISTIC" to your sig.

Is our best start to a season for 5 years getting you down!?