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Right then, what does that mean for us ?

No no, don't ignore it. Have no intention of using it but keep floating stories that were interested in whoever.

So we could have voted in favour of the ban ?

Grant Hanley ?

And why would Saudi owned Sheffield United vote with us ?

Wish the numbers had been a little more allowing us to vote in favour of the ban...... but it still getting defeated.

Interestingly one of the lesser Mackems at work today was weaving some story about their owner soon having access to the fortune not just the interest off it and that they'll be able to compete. So it's bad bad bad only when it's us.

Reading that headline it appears its only us. Kind of hoping we don't now but others do

I'll judge them from my many encounters with fans from Liverpool, both Red and Blue.

I didn't think it was but those types are normally given. Yes there's contact but I don't think it was the contact that brought him down. He felt contact and threw himself down.

So is he the main reason or is it the money ? Also look at what he took over ? The main reason Man City are where they are is that they could bully the market before FFP and that put them in a bloody good position when it came in. No denying he's very good, possibly currently the best...... but don't try and make it outbits all down to him and not what was there before and what they've spent since.

Ukraine Italy is a good watch, both going for it, a bit franticand a few gaps. Still 0-0 at half time but the longer it stays like that the better the specatcle.

The price of incompetence before FFP (when the City foundations and morst of their growth occurred) wasn't great, they could sign players who turned out to be crap and get rid with impunity....and they did. Question yourself, would Palace as they are financially dominate with Pep in charge are would City as they financially are, have more chance if dominating with a Tuchel or Pochetino ? The money trumps all, it improves the chances massively while not absolutely guaranteeing it.

Wage spend ? How did they get into the position to have such a healthy net spend ? Look at the cost of the squad? Oh the naivety of the young. Pep is a very good manager but the financial dominance he's had practically everywhere will always leave questions.

Aye righto.

Over the past few years we've seen the way the wealth of the rich can be hidden easily, routed through various shell companies, double rinsed and laundered out the other side.

I'd also imagine easy to get round as well.

Kevin Philips probably their best in my lifetime. He'd be behind Shearer, Cole, Ferdinand, Beardsley at least.

Not good coming on the back of getting grief at Bournemouth. Needs to get some extra love at some point soon. Wor flags.. ..over to you.

Very true

In the league. Its a 53 all tie in all comps (which includes The Texaco Cup and or Anglo Scottish according to wiki.......never knew we'd played them in either).

Dunno like. Even before our takeover many were saying the whole system, not just FFP, was set up to, not just preserve, but to help build the gap between the 'big 6' over here, about 4 European clubs and their respective competitors. I also think what we are facing would have happened to Villa, West Ham etc had PIF took them over. The question remaining is how much energy and possibly money do they expend on trying you stop us or do they accept the inevitable ?

I'm sure I mentioned something similar to this in the PIF thread.

It's not FFP but that and some other measures would be like an FFP.

Because of the way FFP is constructed