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Harewood had 5 minutes during which all of the play was in our half man. I don't rate Harewood in the slightest, but even I think the comment was harsh aye. 5 mins left, a goal up away from home bring a forward on to play in midfield when you have 2 midfielders on the bench (both of whom play regularly on the right)....and scarily harewood comes on making a "3" sign.....shit man, are we going to play 3 up front to hold on.....what was going on ?

I thought that Kadar has a canny game and I can't remember feeling worried at all when he was defending. I don't know what the stat's were but we seemed to play a lot in our own half, and we coped even though Harper had to pull off one exceptional save at the end. I thought right back was our weakest link in defence so I would worry more about that position being filled than centre half. right back also happened to be their strongest attacking point. kadars clearances were too often attempts to hit it hard which ever way he was facing and one particular jump for a ball that was obvious to everyone was going to bounce over his head (think it was him at least).

The reason he doesn't go that far forward is because he understands the role of a defensive midfielder. Butt has played in that position all his life and still doesn't understand that you don't press the ball ridiculously high up the pitch as you can have the ball passed around you easy. I can't believe anyone still champions the cause of Nicky Butt. you can see him look round and think that no one is pressing and we are just inviting the pressure back on. you can also watch him look round and see his midfield partners aren't going to move forwrads to support whoever has the ball up front. he knows he hasn't the legs to do it but has to try cos of the crapness of those around him. are you seriously saying alan smith was better than butt tonight and that if anyone was playing a more defensive role who should it have been ?

true about taylor being the best right back at the club. he's also the best centre half andf organiser. kadar showed little tonight to give confidence for his future. not writing him off as it's only been a couple of games but he doesn't inspire confidence either.

i thought he was pretty poor tonight.

jonas is a good a player as robert......but he just can't be arsed.

you'd think with a central midfield of butt and smith the plan woule be for smith to be the one to push on.......wrong. at least 3 times enrique broke down the left. got to 30yds out and held the ball up and alan smith (come on...between him and butt who should push on...he's an ex international forwrad and butt has been anall time defensive midfielder) wouldn't go beyond the centre circle even when he could see the gap,the space and the player needing support. slag off nicky butt all you want. he's better in that position than alan smith.

geremi may be better at that than ryan.

been done before...shearer,pearce etc.

most probably still on wages,running costs and paying off past transfers and thats assuming the incoming fees aren't spread over years.

I like to put the boot into .COM for the way they've got up themselves as much as the next lad but you're chatting s**** here. Local Hero and St. James' simply aren't comparable. One was a song (which I like, for the record) by a faux-Geordie that was introduced a few years ago. The other is the name of our ground and has been since the 1880's. I don't agree with the banner adds, i'm sick of the sight of seeing Jennings Ford advertising some wonderful deal on Fiesta's, but again they're not comparable and it doesn't make them hypocrites. If the crux of .COMs opposition was bourn out of some anti-capitalist sentiment then fair enough but it's not. It's about history and heritage, something a two-bit website simply doesn't have. And please don't try to paint Mike Ashley and his pals as some unfortunates who can't do anything right. Maybe .COm would've kicked off had they poo pooed persuing other revenue streams but that's because said revenue streams don't begin and end at renaming the f***ing stadium. Good post. It seems the only way people can try to justify this is by making absurd comparisons to totally unrelated situations. I can't fathom why any Newcastle fan would want this to go ahead, and I certainly don't believe we or any fans would accept this without putting up a fight. You can't compare this farce to Arsenal or Bayern getting new stadiums or to Local Hero being changed by the DJ before kick-off! And in today's world, you can't compare it to adverts on strips because almost everyone has those and almost noone changes their stadium's name. Let's stop trying to compare it to something it's not and just call a spade a spade. dot com don't seem to be on any high horse of their own here, they're sticking up for something the vast majority of Newcastle fans believe in. With the club in the state its in, battered bruised and humiliated, pride in the club's tradition is all the fans have left. You can't take that away from us. Or can you? If we let this happen, where does it end? i don't think anyone does want it. i also don't want advertising on the top,advertising hoardings round the ground,a page in the programme telling you who sponsors alan smiths undercrackers or a bloke standing by the pitch to tell the ref he can start as the advert for tampax has finished. unfortunatly i also realise that it is all about money and if doing that brings in a hefty chunk of moolah then it's likely it'll be done. and i still think that having the fans walking round as adverts for some company is as bad if not worse than selling the stadium name. Totally different kettle of fish tbh. how. my guess is that in this country people will still call it St James' and that abroad the strip is more recognisable than the stadium name. (thats using myself as a guide..i recognise a lot more clubs strips than know their stadium names). given the choice i'd say no to it but i don't have it as a knicker wetting issue that some have. I'm shocked you dont seem to care that much, while i'm not wetting my knickers over it it does sadden me quite a lot. Whats next on his agenda if he cant flog us next season, IF his gamble pays off and we get promoted. i became immune when greenalls appeared on the stripes. i'd be more pissed off if he wanted to change the strip to all green or something. You wouldnt be arsed if the kit was made by one of his companies and he slapped Sports direct on it. Paid the sponsor money from Sports Direct to NUFC where he pockets it. Pays the money say from, Lonsdale as the kit deal to NUFC then he pockets it. The club seeing none of this dosh. how does he "pocket it" ? He owns the club, he could pay himself what the f*** he likes. he could.....the accounts show the he hasn't as yet.

I like to put the boot into .COM for the way they've got up themselves as much as the next lad but you're chatting s**** here. Local Hero and St. James' simply aren't comparable. One was a song (which I like, for the record) by a faux-Geordie that was introduced a few years ago. The other is the name of our ground and has been since the 1880's. I don't agree with the banner adds, i'm sick of the sight of seeing Jennings Ford advertising some wonderful deal on Fiesta's, but again they're not comparable and it doesn't make them hypocrites. If the crux of .COMs opposition was bourn out of some anti-capitalist sentiment then fair enough but it's not. It's about history and heritage, something a two-bit website simply doesn't have. And please don't try to paint Mike Ashley and his pals as some unfortunates who can't do anything right. Maybe .COm would've kicked off had they poo pooed persuing other revenue streams but that's because said revenue streams don't begin and end at renaming the f***ing stadium. Good post. It seems the only way people can try to justify this is by making absurd comparisons to totally unrelated situations. I can't fathom why any Newcastle fan would want this to go ahead, and I certainly don't believe we or any fans would accept this without putting up a fight. You can't compare this farce to Arsenal or Bayern getting new stadiums or to Local Hero being changed by the DJ before kick-off! And in today's world, you can't compare it to adverts on strips because almost everyone has those and almost noone changes their stadium's name. Let's stop trying to compare it to something it's not and just call a spade a spade. dot com don't seem to be on any high horse of their own here, they're sticking up for something the vast majority of Newcastle fans believe in. With the club in the state its in, battered bruised and humiliated, pride in the club's tradition is all the fans have left. You can't take that away from us. Or can you? If we let this happen, where does it end? i don't think anyone does want it. i also don't want advertising on the top,advertising hoardings round the ground,a page in the programme telling you who sponsors alan smiths undercrackers or a bloke standing by the pitch to tell the ref he can start as the advert for tampax has finished. unfortunatly i also realise that it is all about money and if doing that brings in a hefty chunk of moolah then it's likely it'll be done. and i still think that having the fans walking round as adverts for some company is as bad if not worse than selling the stadium name. Totally different kettle of fish tbh. how. my guess is that in this country people will still call it St James' and that abroad the strip is more recognisable than the stadium name. (thats using myself as a guide..i recognise a lot more clubs strips than know their stadium names). given the choice i'd say no to it but i don't have it as a knicker wetting issue that some have. I'm shocked you dont seem to care that much, while i'm not wetting my knickers over it it does sadden me quite a lot. Whats next on his agenda if he cant flog us next season, IF his gamble pays off and we get promoted. i became immune when greenalls appeared on the stripes. i'd be more pissed off if he wanted to change the strip to all green or something. You wouldnt be arsed if the kit was made by one of his companies and he slapped Sports direct on it. Paid the sponsor money from Sports Direct to NUFC where he pockets it. Pays the money say from, Lonsdale as the kit deal to NUFC then he pockets it. The club seeing none of this dosh. how does he "pocket it" ? wouldn't that mean he's just passing money from one hand to the other as opposed to getting cash from someone thats not him.

I like to put the boot into .COM for the way they've got up themselves as much as the next lad but you're chatting s**** here. Local Hero and St. James' simply aren't comparable. One was a song (which I like, for the record) by a faux-Geordie that was introduced a few years ago. The other is the name of our ground and has been since the 1880's. I don't agree with the banner adds, i'm sick of the sight of seeing Jennings Ford advertising some wonderful deal on Fiesta's, but again they're not comparable and it doesn't make them hypocrites. If the crux of .COMs opposition was bourn out of some anti-capitalist sentiment then fair enough but it's not. It's about history and heritage, something a two-bit website simply doesn't have. And please don't try to paint Mike Ashley and his pals as some unfortunates who can't do anything right. Maybe .COm would've kicked off had they poo pooed persuing other revenue streams but that's because said revenue streams don't begin and end at renaming the f***ing stadium. Good post. It seems the only way people can try to justify this is by making absurd comparisons to totally unrelated situations. I can't fathom why any Newcastle fan would want this to go ahead, and I certainly don't believe we or any fans would accept this without putting up a fight. You can't compare this farce to Arsenal or Bayern getting new stadiums or to Local Hero being changed by the DJ before kick-off! And in today's world, you can't compare it to adverts on strips because almost everyone has those and almost noone changes their stadium's name. Let's stop trying to compare it to something it's not and just call a spade a spade. dot com don't seem to be on any high horse of their own here, they're sticking up for something the vast majority of Newcastle fans believe in. With the club in the state its in, battered bruised and humiliated, pride in the club's tradition is all the fans have left. You can't take that away from us. Or can you? If we let this happen, where does it end? i don't think anyone does want it. i also don't want advertising on the top,advertising hoardings round the ground,a page in the programme telling you who sponsors alan smiths undercrackers or a bloke standing by the pitch to tell the ref he can start as the advert for tampax has finished. unfortunatly i also realise that it is all about money and if doing that brings in a hefty chunk of moolah then it's likely it'll be done. and i still think that having the fans walking round as adverts for some company is as bad if not worse than selling the stadium name. Totally different kettle of fish tbh. how. my guess is that in this country people will still call it St James' and that abroad the strip is more recognisable than the stadium name. (thats using myself as a guide..i recognise a lot more clubs strips than know their stadium names). given the choice i'd say no to it but i don't have it as a knicker wetting issue that some have. I'm shocked you dont seem to care that much, while i'm not wetting my knickers over it it does sadden me quite a lot. Whats next on his agenda if he cant flog us next season, IF his gamble pays off and we get promoted. i became immune when greenalls appeared on the stripes. i'd be more pissed off if he wanted to change the strip to all green or something.

the minister tude is going to watch on line apparently...maybe thats your best bet.

I like to put the boot into .COM for the way they've got up themselves as much as the next lad but you're chatting s**** here. Local Hero and St. James' simply aren't comparable. One was a song (which I like, for the record) by a faux-Geordie that was introduced a few years ago. The other is the name of our ground and has been since the 1880's. I don't agree with the banner adds, i'm sick of the sight of seeing Jennings Ford advertising some wonderful deal on Fiesta's, but again they're not comparable and it doesn't make them hypocrites. If the crux of .COMs opposition was bourn out of some anti-capitalist sentiment then fair enough but it's not. It's about history and heritage, something a two-bit website simply doesn't have. And please don't try to paint Mike Ashley and his pals as some unfortunates who can't do anything right. Maybe .COm would've kicked off had they poo pooed persuing other revenue streams but that's because said revenue streams don't begin and end at renaming the f***ing stadium. Good post. It seems the only way people can try to justify this is by making absurd comparisons to totally unrelated situations. I can't fathom why any Newcastle fan would want this to go ahead, and I certainly don't believe we or any fans would accept this without putting up a fight. You can't compare this farce to Arsenal or Bayern getting new stadiums or to Local Hero being changed by the DJ before kick-off! And in today's world, you can't compare it to adverts on strips because almost everyone has those and almost noone changes their stadium's name. Let's stop trying to compare it to something it's not and just call a spade a spade. dot com don't seem to be on any high horse of their own here, they're sticking up for something the vast majority of Newcastle fans believe in. With the club in the state its in, battered bruised and humiliated, pride in the club's tradition is all the fans have left. You can't take that away from us. Or can you? If we let this happen, where does it end? i don't think anyone does want it. i also don't want advertising on the top,advertising hoardings round the ground,a page in the programme telling you who sponsors alan smiths undercrackers or a bloke standing by the pitch to tell the ref he can start as the advert for tampax has finished. unfortunatly i also realise that it is all about money and if doing that brings in a hefty chunk of moolah then it's likely it'll be done. and i still think that having the fans walking round as adverts for some company is as bad if not worse than selling the stadium name. Totally different kettle of fish tbh. how. my guess is that in this country people will still call it St James' and that abroad the strip is more recognisable than the stadium name. (thats using myself as a guide..i recognise a lot more clubs strips than know their stadium names). given the choice i'd say no to it but i don't have it as a knicker wetting issue that some have.

#228 oh ayyyye. cheers

any word on wether steven taylor or colo are fit for the game ?

I like to put the boot into .COM for the way they've got up themselves as much as the next lad but you're chatting s**** here. Local Hero and St. James' simply aren't comparable. One was a song (which I like, for the record) by a faux-Geordie that was introduced a few years ago. The other is the name of our ground and has been since the 1880's. I don't agree with the banner adds, i'm sick of the sight of seeing Jennings Ford advertising some wonderful deal on Fiesta's, but again they're not comparable and it doesn't make them hypocrites. If the crux of .COMs opposition was bourn out of some anti-capitalist sentiment then fair enough but it's not. It's about history and heritage, something a two-bit website simply doesn't have. And please don't try to paint Mike Ashley and his pals as some unfortunates who can't do anything right. Maybe .COm would've kicked off had they poo pooed persuing other revenue streams but that's because said revenue streams don't begin and end at renaming the f***ing stadium. Good post. It seems the only way people can try to justify this is by making absurd comparisons to totally unrelated situations. I can't fathom why any Newcastle fan would want this to go ahead, and I certainly don't believe we or any fans would accept this without putting up a fight. You can't compare this farce to Arsenal or Bayern getting new stadiums or to Local Hero being changed by the DJ before kick-off! And in today's world, you can't compare it to adverts on strips because almost everyone has those and almost noone changes their stadium's name. Let's stop trying to compare it to something it's not and just call a spade a spade. dot com don't seem to be on any high horse of their own here, they're sticking up for something the vast majority of Newcastle fans believe in. With the club in the state its in, battered bruised and humiliated, pride in the club's tradition is all the fans have left. You can't take that away from us. Or can you? If we let this happen, where does it end? i don't think anyone does want it. i also don't want advertising on the top,advertising hoardings round the ground,a page in the programme telling you who sponsors alan smiths undercrackers or a bloke standing by the pitch to tell the ref he can start as the advert for tampax has finished. unfortunatly i also realise that it is all about money and if doing that brings in a hefty chunk of moolah then it's likely it'll be done. and i still think that having the fans walking round as adverts for some company is as bad if not worse than selling the stadium name.

How would you feel if he flogged the name Newcastle United Football Club ? (I am assuming that he could, if he so wished) that would be totally different as the name is mentioned whenever the club is discussed in any way. the strip and ground name are seperate to that. But that's exactly like it will be which is the point Robster and I are making - think how many times SSN refer to The Emirates or The Reebok when discussing anything to do with those clubs - even when they aren't playing at the time. Compare that with an average report on Liverpool or Spurs - are there Sponsors mentioned? just wait till/if liverpool get their new ground. just think of everytime you see any nufc strip with a corpoarte logo on it. i don't see the difference.

i'm the other way. the only way the players will understand the rules is by punishing then that way. it worked with the tackle from behind and the hand ball to stop a goal.. we need players to recognise tht refereeing is getting tronger within the 90mins not more wishy washy.

there are several reasons for that. principal of which is that he just hasn't been much good.

Good one, their songs are brilliant as well, best in the business Aye, used this one a few times as well to catch out people I know who claim to like football but don't really know anything about it. Always go for the standard "gloryseekers" line without knowing that their away fans can be f***ing awesome. liverpool fans were known for that.......now that they seem to be dropping a tad it doesnt seem they're so great. would man utd be the same way ? I don't honestly know. It just annoys me when people slag off their fans for cliched (is that a word? if so one of them slanty accent things may be needed?) reasons. it's easy to put out a good following and good showing when you are doing well and expect to win.

Good one, their songs are brilliant as well, best in the business Aye, used this one a few times as well to catch out people I know who claim to like football but don't really know anything about it. Always go for the standard "gloryseekers" line without knowing that their away fans can be f***ing awesome. liverpool fans were known for that.......now that they seem to be dropping a tad it doesnt seem they're so great. would man utd be the same way ?

just something else that was a tad bizarre....... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8335331.stm Football 'wanted men' were actors Actors featured in the 2009 feature film The Firm Actors in the feature film The Firm that was premiered in London in September Scotland Yard has apologised after actors from a hit film were mistakenly identified as football hooligans being sought after riots at a West Ham game. Police issued 66 pictures of people supposedly caught on camera during violent clashes in August. The images wrongly included stills of six actors from recent film The Firm. A TV report was used to capture the images but because there was no sound officers did not realise it included clips from the hooligan-themed film. Fan stabbed Scotland Yard, who released the images on Tuesday, said: "Six images of individuals who were not involved in the violence were mistakenly included. "These images appear to have been taken from a motion picture. "We wish to apologise unreservedly to those affected. We are going to be actively trying to contact those people to offer our apologies." A Millwall supporter was stabbed as fans clashed outside West Ham's Upton Park ground in east London after the home side won 3-1. Police have arrested more than 40 people so far in connection with the trouble on 25 August. The Firm, which was released last month, is set in football hooligans' 1980s heyday and is about a young man who joins a "firm" of thugs. i've posted it recently elsewhere in here but seemed more apt in here.

like last thursday