madras

out of that 20mill he still has to pay gas,electric and the milkman and such. i suspect hes earned a lot more than 20 million,. hes probably still got a hefty property portfolio. i m thinking its his capital that ran away with the circus.....or Mick Chanons horses? tbf i doubt anyone on here would have any clear idea of his finances. people with that earning power shouldn't ever be in financial trouble but it does happen with alarming regularity.

out of that 20mill he still has to pay gas,electric and the milkman and such.

we did have a david robinson mind.(scored in the replay win over reading in the cup adfter drawing 3-3 down there) iirc.

Except it was miles away from Liverpool. Like most of these burglaries. Close to Manchester mind you... but the media won't tell you that. scousers must've nicked a car to get there then.

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man utd arsenal liverpool chelsea villa charlton oxford real madrid barce west brom tottenham £5 returns £226.65

it may be settled. don't hold your breath waiting for us to find out what actually happened.

because if keegan had been the DoF and wise the manager people would still be backing keegan. lets have some evidence on what the mistreatment was. That's not really my point though. If Ashley has to payout because he f***ed up, then it's his fault imo. The fact it's KK is an interesting one, some people will defend him regardless but the interesting aspect is that there are now seemingly a number of people who strongly dislike him. Almost unthinkable before he came back. i agree. however there are too many who see keegan as a bottler who has walked out on every managerial post he has had pitted against ashley who is the devil incarnate. i trust neither enough to go on rumour and hearsay. I personally think labelling Keegan a 'bottler' because he's walked out on jobs is an unfair reflection on him given the true circumstances. He didn't 'bottle' the Fulham job, he got given a better one and it eventually became obvious he couldn't do both. The England job I guess you could class as bottling; he admitted he wasn't good enough and walked before he was pushed. I wish McLaren had had the integrity for that and saved the FA £2.5m paid for failure. As for the City job, I'm pretty sure he was told he wasn't getting his contract renewed and left by mutual consent, rather than "running away". It's the first time he's taken a stance like this, so I'm certainly not going to write it off as 'Keegan running away again' as so many seem to be desperate to. i've even backed keegan on this numerous times but it's how many see it. in much the same way people believe that keegan could do no wrong. he does seem to have played power games at every club he has been at though, threatening to leave if he doesn't et the budget he wants etc and worse at fulham. I wouldn't ever argue he's perfect, far from it. Just seems an unfair and lazy stick to beat him with. The situation has been oversimplified from both sides imo, although I tend to side with KK given the track records of those involved. Like you I want to know what actually happened. but surely it must also be unfair and lazy to make out he hasn't played power games both here and elsewhere to get his way in the past. the middle ground looking at both their histories is that yes the club bought players without his say but he had agreed to this set up and thought he could change it once in. (i'm not saying that IS what happened btw) First part; probably, yeah. Don't think anyone's doing that though? All I'm trying to say is that he isn't the 'serial bottler' he's painted as being. I would say the most likely scenario is that the circumstances somehow changed during his tenure to the extent that he felt unable to work. How much these circumstances actually changed and whether it justified his viewpoint is the key question that needs answering. either way. i hope we get to find out.

because if keegan had been the DoF and wise the manager people would still be backing keegan. lets have some evidence on what the mistreatment was. That's not really my point though. If Ashley has to payout because he f***ed up, then it's his fault imo. The fact it's KK is an interesting one, some people will defend him regardless but the interesting aspect is that there are now seemingly a number of people who strongly dislike him. Almost unthinkable before he came back. i agree. however there are too many who see keegan as a bottler who has walked out on every managerial post he has had pitted against ashley who is the devil incarnate. i trust neither enough to go on rumour and hearsay. I personally think labelling Keegan a 'bottler' because he's walked out on jobs is an unfair reflection on him given the true circumstances. He didn't 'bottle' the Fulham job, he got given a better one and it eventually became obvious he couldn't do both. The England job I guess you could class as bottling; he admitted he wasn't good enough and walked before he was pushed. I wish McLaren had had the integrity for that and saved the FA £2.5m paid for failure. As for the City job, I'm pretty sure he was told he wasn't getting his contract renewed and left by mutual consent, rather than "running away". It's the first time he's taken a stance like this, so I'm certainly not going to write it off as 'Keegan running away again' as so many seem to be desperate to. i've even backed keegan on this numerous times but it's how many see it. in much the same way people believe that keegan could do no wrong. he does seem to have played power games at every club he has been at though, threatening to leave if he doesn't et the budget he wants etc and worse at fulham. I wouldn't ever argue he's perfect, far from it. Just seems an unfair and lazy stick to beat him with. The situation has been oversimplified from both sides imo, although I tend to side with KK given the track records of those involved. Like you I want to know what actually happened. but surely it must also be unfair and lazy to make out he hasn't played power games both here and elsewhere to get his way in the past. the middle ground looking at both their histories is that yes the club bought players without his say but he had agreed to this set up and thought he could change it once in. (i'm not saying that IS what happened btw)

i always thought they were either fixed into the ground or on a fixed frame.

steven taylor was our best right back last season and yes that includes beye.

According to the Sun article the extra money is for future loss of earnings if you take the article seriously, which I don't. Sleazy tactics by Ashley's team if they are pushing the adminsitration angle but everything is speculation at the moment. alternativly a sleazy trick by the keegan team to use it as a threat to get a higher settlement. cuts both ways and unless we know where it came from (if not fabricated by a journalist) it just shows the myopic views of many.

because if keegan had been the DoF and wise the manager people would still be backing keegan. lets have some evidence on what the mistreatment was. That's not really my point though. If Ashley has to payout because he f***ed up, then it's his fault imo. The fact it's KK is an interesting one, some people will defend him regardless but the interesting aspect is that there are now seemingly a number of people who strongly dislike him. Almost unthinkable before he came back. i agree. however there are too many who see keegan as a bottler who has walked out on every managerial post he has had pitted against ashley who is the devil incarnate. i trust neither enough to go on rumour and hearsay. I personally think labelling Keegan a 'bottler' because he's walked out on jobs is an unfair reflection on him given the true circumstances. He didn't 'bottle' the Fulham job, he got given a better one and it eventually became obvious he couldn't do both. The England job I guess you could class as bottling; he admitted he wasn't good enough and walked before he was pushed. I wish McLaren had had the integrity for that and saved the FA £2.5m paid for failure. As for the City job, I'm pretty sure he was told he wasn't getting his contract renewed and left by mutual consent, rather than "running away". It's the first time he's taken a stance like this, so I'm certainly not going to write it off as 'Keegan running away again' as so many seem to be desperate to. i've even backed keegan on this numerous times but it's how many see it. in much the same way people believe that keegan could do no wrong. he does seem to have played power games at every club he has been at though, threatening to leave if he doesn't et the budget he wants etc and worse at fulham.

and bramble getting bergkamp subbed at half time.

because if keegan had been the DoF and wise the manager people would still be backing keegan. lets have some evidence on what the mistreatment was. That's not really my point though. If Ashley has to payout because he f***ed up, then it's his fault imo. The fact it's KK is an interesting one, some people will defend him regardless but the interesting aspect is that there are now seemingly a number of people who strongly dislike him. Almost unthinkable before he came back. i agree. however there are too many who see keegan as a bottler who has walked out on every managerial post he has had pitted against ashley who is the devil incarnate. i trust neither enough to go on rumour and hearsay.

because if keegan had been the DoF and wise the manager people would still be backing keegan. lets have some evidence on what the mistreatment was.

the league cup game ? i was there. sounds bizzarre but it could have been worse as there was a load of welding gear and a paint store in the end we were in.

they didn't even wait for everton to be away. They were playing Hull away at the time. all right then...didn't even wait for him to leave the house.

6 or maybe half a dozen.

"peanuts"

they didn't even wait for everton to be away.

that comedy moment lasted 90mins (tbf he probabaly shouldn't have played,looked very un match fit) but was the best defender i've seen for us.

to late to save my accumulator V apoel.

Some people on here, fully accepting that Keegan is capable of coming the game with the hierachy of NUFC but generally accepting that in doing so, he is doing it in the genuine and honest hope that it will be of the benefit of the club in the long term - fair point I feel. some would say he does it to benefit KK in the long run.

so whats my position on this then ?