madras

It may be Mickey Mouse, but its our only realistic chance of silverware this season(and maybe next!), but I would rather we lost than picked up any more injuries, esp to Owen ; I just don't know where the goals will come from if he is out for long(we don't have Martins or Viduka either), and I would start to fear relegation if that happens ; there is just NO goal scoring in the side apart from these 3 and unless we have something already sorted, we would be held to ransom over the next few days in trying to get a striker in.. Ideally, a sneaky last-minute win, and NO INJURIES !! "only realistic chance" ?...think pompey last season.

personally think the"difficulty" with transfers is blown out of proportion by clubs to suit them, increasingly seems like the windows are becoming a game of brinksmanship (witness spurs/berbatov) I'd say thats exactly what they are and have been since the stakes have been high in the leagues. Thats what makes them so hard. In any market there are 4 basic variables, the 2 valuations of the resource being traded and the 2 'willingness to accept/pay' for the resource. The market has a huge flaw in it, as it has a close date at the end of august which distorts the 4 basic variables. If your target resource has to have an alternative (i.e a club needs a striker no matter if they get their intended target) then the selling club is incentivised to delay any deal as the willingness to pay and the valuation will rise. However, the player in question knows he is being traded and if the deal doesnt come off, he is less valuable to the selling club when the window is shut. There is therefore an incentive for the buying club to also delay the deal as the value the selling club's is willing to accept rapidly diminishes as the end of the window approaches (the more desperate they are to off-load). In fact you still see a lot of very low value deals at the end of the window as clubs off load unhappy players to cut their losses. The winner in this situation probably depends on which club has the best valuation of the player, or is more sure of it. Its because of this i feel you should only be going for something extra for the team at the end of the window and building your squad with well thought through value for money deals early in the window. but the players don't mind holding on in case a better deal/bigger club comes along,as do the selling clubs. the buying clubs may have an advantage in waiting in that any price may drop if no-oe else comes in for the player who wants to move and the players club wants rid. i like the window as it forces clubs to use their squad. they can't just go out and get someone to cover injuries or if they struggle (i'd actually quite like the windowshut through the entire season)

and guardiola

a "wonder-kid" with "no future at the club" ?

£2 on danny guthrie to score V coventry (14/1)

viz's "drink beer" or "smoke tabs"

Wouldn't surprise me. Depends who we can get in though. *awaits slew of 'anyone would be better' posts* if £9mill is true then take it.

which was actually a better ball than geremis that we scored from. some folk rate a pass by what results from it, ie a shinner we score from is better than a great ball we don't score from. in the interests of equality n'zogbias first 2 crosses were great,2nd especially after that he went to shit

bit basic like but "you're gonna get your fucking head webbed in"

surely not to the point where broasheets print identical copy You've lost me. Guardian report (negative): http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/aug/25/newcastleunited.boltonwanderers Observer report (positive): http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/aug/24/premierleague.newcastleunited dave,dave,dave....you are one of the last folk on here i thought i'd need to hoy a smiley in for them to understand. (i'm shattered at this)

probably,yeah and no

surely not to the point where broasheets print identical copy

sneeky...the observer report or guardian one ? the guardian one was ,if anything a little too gushing. Yer what? well, you say compare it to the observer report then post a guarniad link which wasn't all that bad.

sneeky...the observer report or guardian one ? the guardian one was ,if anything a little too gushing.

pompey bullied us...when ?. pissed on us in the home game but it was a pace and nouse thing. Just Cacapa really. Nah man I sat and watched whole 90 minutes and Diop dominated. he didn't dominate. at 3-0 down after 15mins or so we'd gave in. he had nothing to dominate

Makes you wonder why we bought Bellamy then? And why we went on to play Champs League Football after that? SBR must just have got lucky. you're on dodgy ground there as it would make dabizas,bramble,o'brien,hughes and griffin a good defence edit--sorry olivier

I'm not talking about linking up as in getting on the end of things, I'm talking about linking up and doing things that your teams mates can get on the end of. I'll always favour the people that try to make something happen even if it doesn't come off every time rather than someone who just plays it safe i'd always favour the forward who keeps the ball and makes a move over one that tries a 1 in 10 pass and executes it poorly. Would Shearer prefer to play with another Shearer rather than Bellamy then? what ? Do you want me to spell it out? yes Ok...Shearer admitted he liked to play with Bellamy because he (BELLAMY) provide the legs. i.e. LEGS = MOVEMENT (off and on the ball). Alternatively (for example) Shearer had the option with playing with another finisher like Stephane Guivarche who LACKED MOVEMENT. (Possibly providing fewer options to the team ACROSS THE PITCH IN VITAL AREAS. Did that help? vaguely...i just don't see what it had to do with the original discussion., i'm quoted on here as saying i think owen and martins could play as a front 2. if i had to pick one or the other on purely football stuff (without age,wages or how long on the conract) i'd pick owen. he plays possession football and has excellent mpovement and good finishing (that sums up the best teams)

not technically but on saturday he was picking the ball up there (30-35yds from their goal....wingerish type position) and wasting a lot of it.

both get into good positions and regularly waste the distribution. i'm not saying they are twins seperated at birth but they have a very similar profile.

I'm not talking about linking up as in getting on the end of things, I'm talking about linking up and doing things that your teams mates can get on the end of. I'll always favour the people that try to make something happen even if it doesn't come off every time rather than someone who just plays it safe i'd always favour the forward who keeps the ball and makes a move over one that tries a 1 in 10 pass and executes it poorly. Would Shearer prefer to play with another Shearer rather than Bellamy then? what ? Do you want me to spell it out? yes

thats exactly how i see n'zogbia If you can't see any differences between the two then what's there to discuss? the only difference for me is that n'zogbia has greater potential (which i'm not sure will come through) Well I would say, Zog is quicker, can shoot with more venom and accuracy and can get past players at pace allowing him to deliver far more dangerous crosses. Against that, milner is more disciplined, plays safer, and works hard for the team and is generally a good lad. I don't see too many similarities to be fair. can...but doesn't. both players that had bags of potential. one is a crowd fave the other aint. look at how many times yesterday n'zogbia had the ball in fantastic positions and wasted the distribution(his first two crosses were excellent,but there must've been a dozen woeful crosses from better positions and more space and time than milner had) Doesn't really change what I said though. Just depends whether you prefer option A or B. I repeat they are not similar in any way at all. both young,both wide players, both playing well below their potential......you don't see the similarities ?

I'm not talking about linking up as in getting on the end of things, I'm talking about linking up and doing things that your teams mates can get on the end of. I'll always favour the people that try to make something happen even if it doesn't come off every time rather than someone who just plays it safe i'd always favour the forward who keeps the ball and makes a move over one that tries a 1 in 10 pass and executes it poorly. Would Shearer prefer to play with another Shearer rather than Bellamy then? what ?

thats exactly how i see n'zogbia If you can't see any differences between the two then what's there to discuss? the only difference for me is that n'zogbia has greater potential (which i'm not sure will come through) Well I would say, Zog is quicker, can shoot with more venom and accuracy and can get past players at pace allowing him to deliver far more dangerous crosses. Against that, milner is more disciplined, plays safer, and works hard for the team and is generally a good lad. I don't see too many similarities to be fair. can...but doesn't. both players that had bags of potential. one is a crowd fave the other aint. look at how many times yesterday n'zogbia had the ball in fantastic positions and wasted the distribution(his first two crosses were excellent,but there must've been a dozen woeful crosses from better positions and more space and time than milner had)

I'm not talking about linking up as in getting on the end of things, I'm talking about linking up and doing things that your teams mates can get on the end of. I'll always favour the people that try to make something happen even if it doesn't come off every time rather than someone who just plays it safe i'd always favour the forward who keeps the ball and makes a move over one that tries a 1 in 10 pass and executes it poorly.

pompey bullied us...when ?. pissed on us in the home game but it was a pace and nouse thing.