madras

His biggest mistake was not immediately replacing Keegan with a proper full time manager. i could understand getting someone in for the few weeks till the club was sold.

he did give a penalty aswell

i can't see how it's been ran as a normal business when someone is reaching into their pockets to keep it going. his biggest mistake was keeping kinnear after it became obvious no-one wanted to buy the club.

why ? Maybe because hes clearly better on his left and the last pen he took with his right iirc, he skied it. i dont think he is clearly better with his left. yes he can thump it with his left but most of his touches and passes (when he has time and with a choice) are with his right.

No they were booing Shola coming on, the initial booing started when he stepped out the dugout before the board even went up to say who was coming off. Disgraceful act from so called supporters, i don't care if he's the worst player ever to step foot on St James Park, which he isn't by a long way, YOU DON'T BOO your own players, especially before ther've even stepped onto the bloody pitch, if your not supporting the players then your not supporting the team and if your not supporting the team then what the f*** you doing in the ground????? I'm not a great Shola but that incident sickened me much more than the defeat. I agree 100% and just for the record he did just as much as Michael Owen yesterday. Why the f*** boo him when next year if we go down he will be here fighting for our cause not Owen, Martins, Viduka, or Lovenkrandz? Now is definately NOT the time to be booing any of our players or team, or at least not before they've even stepped onto the pitch. yes,he will be here. fighting for the cause.....well if he's not going to fight for the cause in the prem i doubt he will in the championship

why ?

i'd take your f***ing hand off for an 06/07 now, and your hands and feet for an 04/05 the point is they were both leading here

when did matt derbyshire go to olympiakos ? scored and booked today

Absolute bollocks. They weren't though, the game totally changed when these 2 went off. Bar a few close shaves, we weren't getting battered to half the degree after the 2nd and 3rd. We could easily have been 3-0 down at half time. We played well for an hour but let's not dress it up as something it's not. we could as easily have been 2 up Yep. Just pointing out that Nixon's opinion that they were causing us no problems whatsoever before Bassong/Taylor went off is patently wrong. Absolute bollocks. They weren't though, the game totally changed when these 2 went off. Bar a few close shaves, we weren't getting battered to half the degree after the 2nd and 3rd. We could easily have been 3-0 down at half time. We played well for an hour but let's not dress it up as something it's not. we could as easily have been 2 up Yep. Just pointing out that Nixon's opinion that they were causing us no problems whatsoever before Bassong/Taylor went off is patently wrong. very true

Absolute bollocks. They weren't though, the game totally changed when these 2 went off. Bar a few close shaves, we weren't getting battered to half the degree after the 2nd and 3rd. We could easily have been 3-0 down at half time. We played well for an hour but let's not dress it up as something it's not. we could as easily have been 2 up

yes a proper manager would and it wasn't really a mistake. he's not going to sub someone as soon as they go down injured. taylor should have known he couldn't carry on and said straight away. Suggest you read the post again, as i clearly said he was off the field for a good couple of minutes, they spent all that time strapping him up to get subbed again straight away, they must have known they were going to change him with Geremi getting up then Owen getting up so why waste that time? Whatever way you look at it their dallying was the straw the broke the camel's back. so the player told them he could play on,unless the swelling is immediate or a bone is sticking through it's hard for a physio to tell, the player has the say and he obviously said he could play on. owen got up because lovenkrantz was hobbling about aswell. Don't think he did he was nearly in tears, and if you spend that amount of time strapping someone up then surely it's not wise to put them on. Plus he went on for 1 minute then came straigh off again, surely not the intentions of a lad that wanted so desperately to be on. i remember nick the greek and stuart pearce doing exactly the same thing. yes it hurt but i bet he thought he cpould run it off.

yes a proper manager would and it wasn't really a mistake. he's not going to sub someone as soon as they go down injured. taylor should have known he couldn't carry on and said straight away. Suggest you read the post again, as i clearly said he was off the field for a good couple of minutes, they spent all that time strapping him up to get subbed again straight away, they must have known they were going to change him with Geremi getting up then Owen getting up so why waste that time? Whatever way you look at it their dallying was the straw the broke the camel's back. so the player told them he could play on,unless the swelling is immediate or a bone is sticking through it's hard for a physio to tell, the player has the say and he obviously said he could play on. owen got up because lovenkrantz was hobbling about aswell.

yes a proper manager would and it wasn't really a mistake. he's not going to sub someone as soon as they go down injured. taylor should have known he couldn't carry on and said straight away.

It is bad management, but is butt so retarded that he cant work things out for himself. Do they really need someone telling them that when you are a defender short someone needs to cover for them? shouldn't need the bench to tell them who is going to cover when a player goes off injured for a few minutes.

so the fact that a player was getting treatment when they scored means we are a bunch of amateurs ? agree with midds, the player should have known better but even then it;s unlikely we'd have got someone warmed up and found a break in play to get him on before they scored. theres enough to have a go at before jumping on picky points like this.

thought he was off geting treatment when the 2nd went in ? mebbe i'm wrong

blackburn,southend,villareal,swindon,. 11/1

debts can be restructured in many ways, but as west ham and pompey found out if the debts you are carrying are big enough and your bills are too big compared to your turnover........no one will touch you to restructure them.

do you mean breakthrough and hold a regular place in the team or get a shock call up for staurday then be dropped as soon as the regular player in that position is back ?

What evidence has he shown that he will ? He's already offered Kinnear a 3 year contract, his MD has already stipulated many times that JK is their man. If JK saves us from relegation, why would Ashley suddenly change his stance. Next year will bring more of the same, with a few less "stars", the future is not that bright whether we avoid disaster or not this season. Not to mention Llambias said Ashley would only invest something like £10million "only" ? .......................of his own cash remember. Did he not mean the transfer kitty was £10million before sales? aye, and as the club are losing money, already with excessive debts.where apart from sales is any new money going to come from ? he is putting his hand into his pocket in the hope of recouping it later.

What evidence has he shown that he will ? He's already offered Kinnear a 3 year contract, his MD has already stipulated many times that JK is their man. If JK saves us from relegation, why would Ashley suddenly change his stance. Next year will bring more of the same, with a few less "stars", the future is not that bright whether we avoid disaster or not this season. Not to mention Llambias said Ashley would only invest something like £10million "only" ? .......................of his own cash remember.

similar except zenit to beat udinese instead of gala.

and who are you on the other message boards jimmymag, lets not get all hypocritical now. Maybe you can explain how all the leading successful clubs all over europe and the rest of the world aren't bankrupt ? For your information, we were going bankrupt with one foot in the 3rd division - just like Leeds in fact - in 1991 when the Halls and Shepherd stepped in and converted a club that couldn't sell for 1.25m quid for one worth anywhere between 100m and 200m quid, and one of the biggest turnovers in world football. That's not an opinion by the way, its a fact. maybe cos there debts are managable....see valencia. and that huge turnover was in fact an operating loss quite often building up more debt which you can't keep adding to indefinitly.

call me radical but i'm not going to comment on if we should try and sign gonzalez on the cheap until i've seen a bit more of him. maybe some at the club have seen enough in training etc to decide if its worth the risk but i doubt many fans have.

of course, but his re-writing of history is quite amusing, dcmk may or may not be aware of his history. I can't believe he is slating Souness - and the board/chairman who backed him - when he himself also agreed with everything he did, and the board for backing him. I don't intend to continue Dave, but an admittance from ozzie that all this is in fact correct, would be in order don't you think ? oh the irony. not at all unlike your re-writing of history about the position we were in,in the spring of 2007. Dave has asked me to not continue with this. You and mandiarse both know this so I won't. I've re-written nothing, what I say is true, so if you wish to make a debate of it, do it properly and address the specific points and say what you mean otherwise I will leave it for dcmk as he is smack on the button. BTW I've been in your part of the world for the weekend ........ thats not continuing it ? in my part of the world ?........aye,I saw that little black cloud hanging about, thought it could be you.