madras

strangely though roeder has a very good standing in the game in this country.fair enough he may not be able to persuade a youngster from argentina,but other facets of the club may do,yes we'll be behind the top4 but the clubs profile is still"just" behind those 4.

Asking for trouble. I went to an Inter Milan match last year and sat in the Ultras, the police were all down the other end of the stadium, as far away from them as possible. The let them knock themselves out mentality is already there and it works most of the time, when the police wade in it amplifies the violence in most cases. These Sicilian derbies are notoriously violent, this season is the first time in few decades that 3 of them have all been in the same division. A riot like this was almost inevitble, they could have had 10x as many police there and it would of still been total carnage Siere A are just lucky Pisa and Fiorentina are divisions apart, thats another war waiting to happen. why?? are the fiorentines pushing the tower ?

celtic,lyon,real madrid,juve(now off),sevilla,chelsea,...don't normalyl go on so many but these sat up ,£10 on.

Asking for trouble. it may be the italian police reaping the rewards for years of doing fuck all to stop it(or if you ask boro fans,encouraging and abetting it)

people were leaving 10 from the end on new years day(man utd)2-2 game in the balance,no buses to catch.

the reason is that when something happened over here,it was front page,in holland,france,italy and spain it they kept it quieter.all worse or as bad as england.right now if the world cup was held in europe tomorrow i'd be more worried about italians,poles and germans than us. I dont think thats true. England was number 1 in the hooligan chart at WC 2006. Followed by Germany and Poland. which hooligan chart is that ?

the reason is that when something happened over here,it was front page,in holland,france,italy and spain it they kept it quieter.all worse or as bad as england.right now if the world cup was held in europe tomorrow i'd be more worried about italians,poles and germans than us.

Talking about politics, what more do you have next to Labour and Torys? Those 2 are the only parties I hear about in Holland. green party who get about 2 votes, lib dems which gets about 3, bnp I guess you are a Labour man? In Holland the socialistic party was a big winner at the latest elections together with an party of the (imo almost extrme)right. Labour is for the working class, so yes, prove it

it did used to be when AC Milan won the European Cup in 1990 At that time the stadiums were sold out. The best players in the world played in Italy. Dutch kids all were wearing Milan, Juventus and Napoli shirts. And then suddenly it was over and there was the rise of the Premiership! at about that time with van basten,rijkaard andthat other bloke, milan were probably the best team in the world for a couple of years

had juve in the weekends footy bet aswell

parky's mams american

65? There will be. i said not many,5 would be my guess

i'll bet theres not many prem managers won more points in that year.

fat jobless girl age 34

not so long ago we had the clash,ramones and joy division...probably the trendiest half time show in christendom.....musically we are now on an escalator to hell.

The only profit they would be likely to make would be by reselling the club a few years down the line for a lot more than they paid for it. The only way someone would pay more is if the club was doing significantly better than it is now, to do this would necessitate a turn around both in the boardroom and on the pitch, and that would require investment in the team. Even if money is their only goal, they would care a great deal about where we finished, because the higher up the league we get the more money we make, both in terms of prize-money and sponsorship, etc. The Champions' League is where the real money's at, so I'd expect anyone seriously wanting to make any money from a football club would be aiming for that and guess what, to get in there you have to have a pretty good team!! Also, we finished quite a bit higher than 15th last season and in doing so made a huge loss, so I doubt 15th would be considered satisfactory by them, whatever their motivations. In fact as this group's stated aims are to make money, I would be amazed if they touched us with a bargepole. This club is significantly overvalued by its shareholders - well at least one of them anyway - has a huge debt and a poor squad, it's about as far away from an opportunity to make an easy buck as you can get. not necessarily,if DIC follow the same plan they had for liverpool (ie sell within 7 years) by then it's quite possible clubs will be negotiating their own TV rights,outside the top 4 NUFC is probably the biggest available.at a a price less than half the LFC deal i could understand them sniffing. as for the bold bit,do you know something we don't.wouldn't it make more sense if those asking for too much were those in control of the majority shareholding rather than a minority shareholding...if the majority shareholding sells out the position of the minority shareholding is very weak. How much is the Liverpool deal worth like? Also, I only know what has been made public: that the Halls actively want to sell their stake and Shepherd actively doesn't want to sell his stake - to the extent that he has considered buying the whole club, or at least he says he has. Now, it doesn't take a great deal of logic to work out that the price demanded by someone who doesn't want to sell something would probably be higher than that demanded by someone who doesn't, does it? i think the whole deal for lfc was £450mill that may have included stadium and player investment.....and the shares thing,he would be a minority shareholder,thats why after magnier sold to glazier to give him the majority the rest folded.fat fred could ask for 12times how much they were worth,if he hasn't got control or influence over the majority he's fucked.

has this run it's course cos we aint going to agree ?

.....if NUFC won the league but only after spending £200million on players ? ....if NUFC won a trophy with no Englishmen in the squad ? ....would you be happy winning the title with a cynical,boring style of football ? i'm not having a go at other teams,just wondering how far we,on this board would go for success.

for all that if you take out the 2 games V man u we done better against all the rest of the league than they did. it's very easy to look at our defence then and say good player,average player...doesnt matter,it worked,we were nowhere near as bad defensivly as some like to make out,a team who ethos was to attack,go into the last game of the season with a chance of winning the title,can't do it with an average defence,a defence who as seen conceded a similar ammount to the best. i've told this before and it needs telling again,that summer on hols in crete i got talking to some man citeh fans,they reckoned the media done us in,at home when they went a goal down the crowd got on their backs and they folded,but with us,they thought "match of the day says they've got a dodgy defence,come on"...anecdotal i know but it still rattles round my head

The only profit they would be likely to make would be by reselling the club a few years down the line for a lot more than they paid for it. The only way someone would pay more is if the club was doing significantly better than it is now, to do this would necessitate a turn around both in the boardroom and on the pitch, and that would require investment in the team. Even if money is their only goal, they would care a great deal about where we finished, because the higher up the league we get the more money we make, both in terms of prize-money and sponsorship, etc. The Champions' League is where the real money's at, so I'd expect anyone seriously wanting to make any money from a football club would be aiming for that and guess what, to get in there you have to have a pretty good team!! Also, we finished quite a bit higher than 15th last season and in doing so made a huge loss, so I doubt 15th would be considered satisfactory by them, whatever their motivations. In fact as this group's stated aims are to make money, I would be amazed if they touched us with a bargepole. This club is significantly overvalued by its shareholders - well at least one of them anyway - has a huge debt and a poor squad, it's about as far away from an opportunity to make an easy buck as you can get. not necessarily,if DIC follow the same plan they had for liverpool (ie sell within 7 years) by then it's quite possible clubs will be negotiating their own TV rights,outside the top 4 NUFC is probably the biggest available.at a a price less than half the LFC deal i could understand them sniffing. as for the bold bit,do you know something we don't.wouldn't it make more sense if those asking for too much were those in control of the majority shareholding rather than a minority shareholding...if the majority shareholding sells out the position of the minority shareholding is very weak.

but can you think of 1,man u thought "what we need is an alan shearer"

none of the wolves one when when some kid got a firework to the head.

looks like carlton palmer.

defensivly the midfield were non-existent,the defenders didn't actually miss much but if the midfield don't close down their men and stop the space 25yds out any defence will be put under too much pressure.

at the time we had the 5th best defence in the league(37coceded),comparing favourably with the best arsenal (32),liverpool(34) and villa and champions man u(34each).are some falling into the nufc shit defence myth.all our defenders were in their prime.on the scoring front we were 3rd (66) behind man u(73) and liverpool (70).it's where our goals came from that make shearer the necessity,25 from the 29yr old ferdinand and 8 each from lee and beardsley.......to sign the best froward in britain ,possibly the world at that time was a good move on and off the pitch. thinking how much shearer cost in real terms he was a steal and a necessity we could afford,for once nufc done what was right both in the long and short term.