madras

Experience should be your guide. Our first goal you knew was OK. The second (I was sat with the fatha-in-law) I said would be reviewed but on the first replay said it would stand because of the two deliberate touches by the defenders.

So we are both right, you can like it because it works where you often see it, we can dislike because it often doesn't work ? Re the amount of fouls dropping across two tournaments and diving dropping, I'm not going to read them now bit is there a proven causal link to them as opposed to they happen less because the game has changed.

That goes for players as well amazingly.

It's not that we hate VAR, we hate that they get stuff obviously wrong and VAR was supposed to put an end to that.

Does that include non-decisions, which are still decisions in themselves ?

See.... Tiote was interfering with play outside the keepers line of sight so offside. Two weeks later......Negredo is not interfering with play when offside despite stepping over the ball.

And do those correct decisions include non-decisions when the ref takes no action and they aren't viewed as serious enough for VAR ?

But wouldn't that have to mean that both defenders made no direct attempt at playing the ball but merely reacted ? Na! That's not what I saw.

And it's taken you so long To find out you were wrong When you thought it held everything. Gerry Rafferty's "Potter Street"

Looked like no contact to me like. Pen all day though

Toneys ban eventually started.

6 in a row before today you say.....and never got a mention. Edit... they beat Norwich just the other week.

I wouldn't be sure given the refereeing performance yesterday.

He was also nowhere near Felipes original touch from which he seems to be being ruled offside.

1. I'd have thought it would have been from the attacker playing the ball (Isak) and the defender playing it (Felipe). If so, as Neville pointed out, he had plenty of time, it wasn't driven at him and he had time to try and play it not just block it. If it's Niakhate then the ball has already been deliberately played by Felipe. 2. Again I don't think it was and neither did the pundits or most neutral fans. 3. N/A 4. Again no one seems to see Felipes or Niakhates movement as being instinctive but pretty obvious deliberate playing of the ball except you, the ref,the VAR ref and some but not all Forest fans.

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That kind of drawback draws so many fouls as well

I ended up in hospital that day. (Nowt to do with that game, had a suspected blood clot on the lung. Tutned out Id burst a blood vessel in my throat shouting for a pen the previous week)

I've spoke to many travelling fans going to Sunderland. Newcastle is part of the attraction. Go to Sunderland as late as possible and get out as soon as.

Yeah but not letting Navas have a go at him was the protection bit.

With the pen ? That's not shithousery at all. Navas tries a psych out so Trips takes it on to protect Isak from it. Just very clever.

And we'll have Gordon and Anderson and the Joe/Joe dovetail and possibly more coming in in the summer.

It's the most Mackem thing in the world. One of my best friends at work, SAFC season 'card' holder, on each and every defeat blames the ref. Caveats it sometimes with "we shouldn't have got anything anyway but........" then blames the ref for everything.

Aye I edited my post. Too eager man, still hyped off last night.

Nowt mad about it.