Wullie

Boro are in trouble too imo.

Love how it's always the Liverpool fans coming on telling how good he is. Have him back.

We need to stick together more than ever at the moment. The wankers on Fleet Street are absolute loving it.

So it's Allardyce's negative style of play that made him miss all those easy chances earlier in the season? Must have affected us even more than we thought.

That's where I disagree, I'd say that was a bad run of form, which every striker goes through, combined with him still (I know this sounds like an excuse) still getting back his sharpness and the added pressure that comes with being the only bugger who gets chances and where we are in the table. How long is it going to take it to get his "sharpness" back, given that he's started the last 11 games? This bad run of form has lasted all season btw. He missed two genuine open goals for England in one game this season too, I didn't even mention them.

Sorry, how can you justify a Premiership striker who can't score with his feet? If he had 15 goals, fair enough - he's got fucking four! Martins has got more than that and he hasn't played for two fucking month - he's shit though, cos he can't finish. It reminds me of the people who used to say in Shearer's final seasons that it was ok that he was only scoring four goals a season from open play because he stuck a few penalties away. What it amounts to is that no matter how well we play and how many chances we create for Michael Owen, he will miss them. But it's ok, because he might head in a set piece every once in a while. It's not just yesterday either, he's been doing it all season. Most of his "shots" the keeper throws his hat on. The chances he had against Wigan, Arsenal, City, Blackburn, your average Premiership striker - Defoe, Bent, Johnson, Kitson, Kuyt - will score without a second thought. Once or twice is acceptable, nobody's perfect but we're in March and he's missed every single one.

Like yesterday? No one is guaranteed to score in every match. He won't get three better chances than he had yesterday. He's finished. Quicker everyone accepts it, the quicker we can get shot and move on. He's finished because he didn't put the ball an extra inch or two beyond Friedel's foot and dragged a shot from a tight angle wide with Friedel bearing down on him with his weaker foot. Righteo. Fuck's sake. He's started 14 league games and scored no goals with his feet man. He's missed God only knows how many sitters this season. The excuses he is getting are laughable. If Shola had missed those three chances yesterday, he'd have been absolutely pilloried. He should have more goals than he has, no doubt. I just don't think he is finished just because he's 'missed' (right word?) a fair few chances. He is a confidence player and I think once one goes in that will hopefully give him a bit. I think that if that first one had gone in the second would have followed with that other chance, that's Owen. The reason I defend Owen is he's proved all his career that he's a great goalscorer, he's had a quarter of a season to get back into it after basically a year and a half out. The signs are there that he's getting sharper as well, it's not like he's stagnated completely. I find it encouraging that he's still making those intelligent runs and getting in those positions. One will come sooner or later I think that will give him a huge boost and more will follow. Spot on. And, "He's started 14 league games and scored no goals with his feet man." ...does it matter how they go in, like? Couldn't give toss if he's using his nob as a putter and tapping them over the line so long as he scores. Fuck me! He's not scoring! 2 in the last 4. Great. So he can only score from set pieces? We are relying on a 5'6" striker to score enough goals from set pieces to keep us up? I'll get my Visitors Guide to Hull out.

Like yesterday? No one is guaranteed to score in every match. He won't get three better chances than he had yesterday. He's finished. Quicker everyone accepts it, the quicker we can get shot and move on. He's finished because he didn't put the ball an extra inch or two beyond Friedel's foot and dragged a shot from a tight angle wide with Friedel bearing down on him with his weaker foot. Righteo. Fuck's sake. He's started 14 league games and scored no goals with his feet man. He's missed God only knows how many sitters this season. The excuses he is getting are laughable. If Shola had missed those three chances yesterday, he'd have been absolutely pilloried. He should have more goals than he has, no doubt. I just don't think he is finished just because he's 'missed' (right word?) a fair few chances. He is a confidence player and I think once one goes in that will hopefully give him a bit. I think that if that first one had gone in the second would have followed with that other chance, that's Owen. The reason I defend Owen is he's proved all his career that he's a great goalscorer, he's had a quarter of a season to get back into it after basically a year and a half out. The signs are there that he's getting sharper as well, it's not like he's stagnated completely. I find it encouraging that he's still making those intelligent runs and getting in those positions. One will come sooner or later I think that will give him a huge boost and more will follow. Spot on. And, "He's started 14 league games and scored no goals with his feet man." ...does it matter how they go in, like? Couldn't give toss if he's using his nob as a putter and tapping them over the line so long as he scores. Fuck me! He's not scoring!

Like yesterday? No one is guaranteed to score in every match. He won't get three better chances than he had yesterday. He's finished. Quicker everyone accepts it, the quicker we can get shot and move on. He's finished because he didn't put the ball an extra inch or two beyond Friedel's foot and dragged a shot from a tight angle wide with Friedel bearing down on him with his weaker foot. Righteo. Fuck's sake. He's started 14 league games and scored no goals with his feet man. He's missed God only knows how many sitters this season. The excuses he is getting are laughable. If Shola had missed those three chances yesterday, he'd have been absolutely pilloried. He should have more goals than he has, no doubt. I just don't think he is finished just because he's 'missed' (right word?) a fair few chances. He is a confidence player and I think once one goes in that will hopefully give him a bit. I think that if that first one had gone in the second would have followed with that other chance, that's Owen. The reason I defend Owen is he's proved all his career that he's a great goalscorer, he's had a quarter of a season to get back into it after basically a year and a half out. The signs are there that he's getting sharper as well, it's not like he's stagnated completely. I find it encouraging that he's still making those intelligent runs and getting in those positions. One will come sooner or later I think that will give him a huge boost and more will follow. I think he's getting far too many excuses. Andy Cole was a great finisher, now he's in the Championship. Dwight Yorke's playing in midfield for the mackems. Even Shearer was missing easy chances towards the back end of his career. Just because Owen's end has come earlier because of injury doesn't mean it hasn't come. The only goals he can score are from crosses before the keeper can react. Said in the pub after the game that at least we wouldn't hear these pitiful excuses that we've heard all season anymore and I'm honestly stunned that people are still coming out with them. How many simple chances will it take him to miss before folk realise he's a liability in front of goal?

Like yesterday? No one is guaranteed to score in every match. He won't get three better chances than he had yesterday. He's finished. Quicker everyone accepts it, the quicker we can get shot and move on. He's finished because he didn't put the ball an extra inch or two beyond Friedel's foot and dragged a shot from a tight angle wide with Friedel bearing down on him with his weaker foot. Righteo. Fuck's sake. He's started 14 league games and scored no goals with his feet man. He's missed God only knows how many sitters this season. The excuses he is getting are laughable. If Shola had missed those three chances yesterday, he'd have been absolutely pilloried.

Like yesterday? No one is guaranteed to score in every match. He won't get three better chances than he had yesterday. He's finished. Quicker everyone accepts it, the quicker we can get shot and move on.

Like yesterday?

Aye, don't you just hate those c**ts. Bernie Slaven harping on every night, on the "legends" phone-in about us going down. He want's to have another look at the table because if we're in the relegation battle, they certainly are. 3 of their next 4 games are v Villa, Arsenal and Chelsea away. Hope to god they go down. I think we're going to take Boro apart, I really do. Someone is due a thrashing, and have been for a while, and I think it could be them. You thrashed us man, you tit.

Aye, don't you just hate those c**ts. Bernie Slaven harping on every night, on the "legends" phone-in about us going down. He want's to have another look at the table because if we're in the relegation battle, they certainly are. 3 of their next 4 games are v Villa, Arsenal and Chelsea away. Hope to god they go down. They've got Spurs at the Lane and I think Man Utd after that too, and they've still got cup games to play. They're in just as much trouble as we are.

Why? Given is clearly a far superior keeper. It's not even up for debate imo. A few dodgy games when not even fully fit isn't gonna make me jump on a "omggg he's past it" bandwagon. So you'd pick on name not form? That's one of our biggest problems atm.

Miles better than Blackburn then?

Love how the media are building up Hughes and making out like we appointed the wrong man because they beat us. Blackburn were absolutely fucking shit.

Aye, one with more pace too I reckon. Wayne Bridge perhaps? Hope not. Overrated.

He's lying. He's unhappy. Does he not read the Mirror ffs?

He should of defend the middle ground instead he got sucked into going wide, which made it a easy pass. I thought that was obvious. So he should stand off Bentley and go to Derbyshire, leaving Bentley a free run on goal? Right. As was said, without someone tracking Derbyshire, he is damned either way. If we were 2 on 1 like that and didn't score, it would be embarrassing. The advantage is totally with the attacking team against anyone.

How dare Enrique not deny Davd Bentley playing a simple pass into 60 yards of space?

Mark Viduka is also someone who needs shot of. Overweight, lazy, slow player. Random.

When he sliced it straight to Santa Cruz.

That's it, I'm going out.

If you're happy with a bloke who's picked up 1 point at home against average opposition, and a man who STILL picks Smith, then fine. Seriously become disillusioned with the sentimental b*llocks on this forum. From three games? Have a word man. Bolton he'd been in the job two days, Boro we put three past and conceded none but the ref wasn't having any of it and as for yesterday, what can he do? He can only get them playing good football and creating chances which we did in abundance - when players like Michael Owen are missing sitters, that's not KK's fault. Admittedly a few of his selections are making me bang my head off the wall but he didn't bring these players in.