Wullie

For an interim job, who would you bring in? Or would you stick with Hughton? The problem isn't Hughton, it's that the players look totally demoralised (and a number are absolutely shite) and I really don't see how some fucking crooked cockney wideboy is going to change that.

Terry Venables? Ashley is laughing his tits off at us here.

That chance he missed because he pearolled it and gave the defender about three month to get back and clear it nearly had me burst a fucking blood vessel. That and about two minutes before their goal where he picked the ball up in the centre in tons of space on the counter attack with Martins, Owen and N'Zogbia breaking ahead of him and he just dawdled forward aimlessly until a blue shirt walked up from behind and took him out. Fucking oxygen thief.

I can take losing but not to them cunts. I'm absolutely fucking sick. A few of our mob actually played quite well but some of them, Jesus Christ. Geremi was totally inept, Taylor is a total joke of a defender and Butt was finished three year ago. As for the pick of the bunch, tonight was the angriest I've ever been with Damien Duff. I can't believe we had the whole summer and we didn't flog him, give him away, tear his contract up or simply kick the fucker down a flight of stairs. A disgusting shambolic weed of a player who should never ever pull that shirt on again.

Rather have had Xisco for Duff and gone 4-3-3 but at least Oba's playing.

Well a photo with, close enough.

Carefull now. I'm joking of course. There's actually only one or two of them I'd kill in cold blood. BooBoo got a hug off Juande Ramos though.

All the Spurs squad went for a walk along the Quayside at lunchtime. Never have I wanted a gun more.

I don't remember that much controversy over the decision to replay the Arsenal - Sheff Utd cup tie a few years back. If both sides are for it, I say go ahead.

I'd have taken KK back that night before the Hull game but not now. Too much water under the bridge. I'd take Shearer though and I wouldn't have said that a year ago. Tin hat on.

Although the goalposts have obviously been moved with Chelsea and now Citeh, the club should be more than able to punch its weight in the top ten of the Premier League purely from the money it generates.

Admit it, you were persuaded by my post to that effect last night weren't you? Seriously though, not sending anyone to the charity thing is shocking. It's little things like that that show you how much the club is in disarray. They have shown themselves to be so far out of touch with the supporters that the damage is irreparable now.

I'm disappointed with him walking out but I can totally understand why he did it. I also can't see how he's in the wrong in any way despite the desperation of some to paint him as the bad guy. I reckon the state of the squad speaks for itself tbh. Keegan was being asked to work miracles with his head, not Dennis Wise's, on the block.

Would it not make a difference if Ashley had bought the club to enjoy it while the others had bought into a club as a business decision? He's hardly going to get any enjoyment out of supporting us now after the protests. If he'd bought it to enjoy it, he wouldn't be scrimping and saving on Michael Owen's wages while putting hundreds of millions on spread betting. I don't know what his motive was and I couldn't really give a fuck anymore. I just don't want to go down and that's where these world class players he's bought are taking us (through very little fault of their own I might add).

You are conveniently forgetting that if he showed some spine and did stick it out (which if he sticks to that price, he still might) everyone is still going to be up in arms till he's gone. True Faith and Friends have made it quite clear that they intend their campaign to continue. So what is it you want? If he sells quick he's a coward, if he doesn't he's a cunt Half the Premiership would get rid of their board tomorrow and many have protested to that end. Man Utd hate the Glazers, Liverpool hate H&G, Everton hate Kenwright. Those clubs aren't in the state we are. I want Ashley out as much as anyone but not at the expense of Premiership football. Shepherd was a cunt as well but he never let things get to this stage, letting the club and the team be torn apart while he pisses around in bars trying to find a billionaire who might happen to have nipped in for a swift half. It's total dereliction of duty.

Ashley's been far more cowardly than Keegan. Keegan could do absolutely nothing about his situation (stick it out or walk, fucked either way) but Ashley could about his. It's in the nature of football supporters that we're fickle cunts - we wanted Shepherd out but he kept going and if he'd have turned it round, we'd have said "fair enough NE5 you were right, Fred's great". The Glazers didn't bottle it when thousands of Man Utd fans congregated on Old Trafford, now they're English and European champions. Liverpool staged a protest on the same day as we did, Gillett and Hicks haven't hoyed the toys. For a hard nosed businessman, he's got no spine whatsoever. Showed that when he ordered Mr Toad to sort the KK mess out rather than interrupting his jolly up.

Taylor always does that, it's one of his many incredibly irritating characteristics, like doing star jumps in the penalty area.

O'Neill shouldnt be trusted with funds cos he spent £12m on Milner. better to force out a good manager than let them waste money. He bought Marlon Harewood, he bought Zat Knight, there was even tabloid talk of a bid for our very own Alan Smith. Half this forum would have had the useless fucker sacked off for that. He has that ability, like Keegan, to get performances out of players that most other managers cant Exactly and for me, it's the key aspect of this whole charade. Ashley does not understand football and seems to think that 'good players = good football and success' with someone to actually manage the players coming way down the list of priorities. For me it shows a total misunderstanding of the situation and it's why he backed Wise ahead of KK, because he thinks that transfer policy is paramount when it is not even close. Everyone on here can give you a long list of duds bought by some of the greatest managers in the game but it is what they get out of the players that matters. This is even moreso when you're buying the types of players we are - foreigners who need to feel loved and settle in and young players who need someone to bring them on and take them to the next level. You can get away with average management if you're buying some of the best players in the world but it takes a Keegan to get the best from players like Guthrie (watch Jonas go down the shitter when he gets back anarl). My belief is that Ashley thought "we've bought good players therefore it won't matter from a footballing point of view if Keegan walks so I'll let him go" and that is what has left us where we today. Meanwhile Martin O'Neill bought James Milner for £12m. What a mug, bet the Villa fans can't believe they've got such a clown in charge. God I'm sick.

Spot on that Dev, nice one.

O'Neill shouldnt be trusted with funds cos he spent £12m on Milner. better to force out a good manager than let them waste money. He bought Marlon Harewood, he bought Zat Knight, there was even tabloid talk of a bid for our very own Alan Smith. Half this forum would have had the useless fucker sacked off for that.

I have nothing but admiration for Aston Villa and the way they've gone about things. It's the model for how we should be run, not scrimping and saving and pretending to be like Arsenal.

Football's rife with managers making bizarre decisions. At times in the last few years, the fanbase has been as one for a decision while the manager does something else which inevitably doesn't work. Odd.

Hear hear. Selling him was sheer stupidity. Not only is he miles better than Taylor but he's also a much more able holding midfielder than Butt.

Jonas wasn't playing?

"I know Dave, I agree with you which is why I said we lacked players in 1 or 2 positions. I believe Bassong is our LB cover and Taylor could play RB if needed. But for Wullie to say that only 4 of the players are worthy of the Premiership is silly and to insinuate that it is somehow Ashley's fault that we have only those 4 Premiership players makes it just plain ridiculous" Ashley? No. The mates of his he brought in to decide transfer policy of a Premiership club? Yes. Given, Colo, N'Zogbia, Owen, there's your four. Xisco's exempt (and I really feel for the lad). The rest are all, to varying degrees, not good enough. I was at Upton Park in April watching Butt and Geremi plod around in midfield and pass the ball to claret shirts - if you'd told me they'd be starting in September, I'd have laughed at you. I trusted this mob and they've taken the piss.