BottledDog

Where? What? You have to be kidding me.

That's the spirit.

It's not news, it's AlanOliver.com

Anal's my dad you bastard. /well, when I say my dad, I of course mean as in collectively, a father figure for us all.

Toon fears on Gooch moveJan 30 2007 By Alan Oliver, The Evening Chronicle A nervy and anxious Glenn Roeder was left sweating on his planned loan moves as the transfer window closure loomed ominously closer today. The Newcastle United boss was still waiting to hear from Standard Liege that all the paper work has been done which would allow American international defender Oguchi "Gooch" Onyewu to come on loan to St James' Park. And so too was "Gooch" after he travelled to Tyneside over the weekend to talk to United and undergo a medical as he yearns for the chance to pull on the black-and-white shirt. Roeder can only hope that the Belgian outfit do not pull the plug at the last minute because they are wary that United will not sign Onyewu in a permanent deal on at the end of the season. This is exactly the same scenario with St Etienne and their 28-year-old Martinque-born striker Frederic Piquionne who they want to sell for e7m. As a result, I am told that while Piquionne's loan move to United is not impossible, it is highly unlikely. And United's chances of landing the French striker receded further today with the news that Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger, having lost Robin van Persie for the rest of the season, was toying over a late move for the St Etienne man. Meanwhile, the news coming out of Holland is that United are ready to pay £5m to bring Ajax's promising young striker Ryan Babel to Tyneside. Babel is a player greatly admired by Roeder, but there has been no bid by United and there is absolutely no chance of the 20-year-old striker being signed before window closes tomorrow night. There is talk about a United approach for Babel in the summer, but Roeder knows the competition will be tough. I hear the he is one of Barcelona's targets which would leave United as also-rans. Someone who has been an also-ran ever since he arrived at St James' Park in August 2005 is Albert Luque and it looks as though the Spanish international will still be here at the start of next season. However, United have told Luque he can go to PSV Eindhoven if he can do a deal with the Dutch club in the next 24 hours. But PSV would only be able to pay Luque less than half of his £40,000-a-week wages he banks from United and it would be a major surprise if he decides to accept this. Source: icnetwork.co.uk

That's the spirit.

Speak for yourself, thick fuck. Don't have the temperament for what? A cafe? A casino? What ARE you talking about? God knows what he is on about. We love that shit in Gosforth.

That's the spirit.

Yup I guess we could still push forward with a 'fair to middling' casino but we will have lost the old MGM deposit. Disappointing, but at least Terry Mac and the lads will not have the added distractions I guess.

Where are the RVI or the VISA issuing office ITKs?

So, it has gone to Manchester. Although we would have planned for that eventuality, that's 5 million out of our coffers straight away.

We hardly have any money and can only use 2 loans. I don't think we are capable of bringing anyone else in even if we wanted to. If he is 'confident his search for defensive talent was nearing an end' without picking up at least one solid left back, then surely that has to worry you. I'm sure Roeder can see that, and hopefully this is just a case of the Journal spouting bollocks.

That you fail to see that somebody insulting you personally cannot be defended by saying that some other bloke at some other point in time (I still have no clue who he is whittering on about) made an 'offensive comment' is just hilarious. I will have to assume you are just standing up for your buddy without actually reading the posts as I would hate to think you are that stupid. Oh, dear. I even gave an example of supporting some of the boards decisions. You seriously need to get that chip off your shoulder. Again, I think you are getting confused. You judge a persons job on his results, his record. You can take into account factors that might have forced certain decisions, but when even at the time you disagreed with those decisions, that, my friend, has nothing to do with hindsight.

Definitely a triple unvailing planned. Please let the third be a decent left back. triple!?!? where is that info from? good news if true, even if only to make up the numbers Sorry, just wishful thinking... but you never know. I have to say though that this bit (refering only to Onyewu) in the Journal pisses me off a bit. "While there is still much work to do in his bid to add striking reinforcements, Roeder was last night confident his search for defensive talent was nearing an end." I hope Roeder himself doesn't feel that way. One more central defender should only be the start of it.

Definitely a triple unvailing planned. Please let the third be a decent left back.

of course, getting another board who lack ambition like the old one, is impossible and simply will not happen to us No board with ambition would employ Souness and Roeder. You'll now come out with Liverpool employing Souness so I'll just remind you that Liverpool employed Souness after he'd been a success at Rangers, we employed him after he'd been a failure at Liverpool and beyond. Quite, and if we are talking players (Francis Lee/Darren Bent etc), you could pull such examples for any board including the current one strangely enough. For instance when Robson wanted Miguel, the board held back and then chose to provide Carr instead. Was that an example of ambition? If you really think this board haven't shown they have had ambition, then you must have been living on Mars. Quite simply, if they say they didn't have the money to buy Miguel then that will be fact, unless of course you are one of those who slate them for spending money then also slate them for not spending money. What did you think of spending 6m on Marcelino, 4m on Goma, 4m on Domi and 4.5m on Pistone ? They had more than enough money to buy him when Robson asked for him. The board stalled and when his price rocketed, bought Carr. Marcelino, Goma, Domi and Pistone? Poor to middling buys, but as you argue yourself, you have to back the manager you appoint, right? so whats your stance on this ? Should the club spend big money on defenders or not ? Tell us what you think, then don't go back on your response when you feel like slating the club whatever they do. I had a feeling you would be thick enough not to grasp the point. I have no stance on it. It is another example of the idiotic debates that you start to help you prance around the main points, usually around the time you get frustrated and feel the need to ramp up the insults. I couldn't give a toss how much or little we spend on defenders if the end result benefits the club. I only hope for the club to use the money wisely, just as I'm sure you were suggesting when you got all excited over the possibility of Francis Lee, and it is something that Shepherd and his managers have for the most part failed to do. refer yourself to the first post in this thread which was insulting. Or is it different when its done by someone you agree with rather than disagree with ? Your point about Francis Lee is, to be honest, daft at best and untrue at worst. This board, since 1992, have backed every manager they have appointed to the utmost, far more than their predecessors did for over 3 decades. The very fact that someone new [sniffer] has came along who has also witnessed these eras and you STILL think you know best, shows nothing other than you will never know anything or understand anything, being unprepared to listen to others who try to tell you factual information that they have seen and you have not. A pathetic attitude. Shame you can't make your mind up whether you want to slate the board for spending money on players, or not spending money on players. Its the answer I expected from you too I am not interested in another persons post or whether or not they insulted you. You bring insults into a conversation where there were none, and the fact you cannot acknowledge that is disappointing, but not unexpected. As for whether or not the club splash the cash, as I have tried to get through to you, I don't vehemently support either position. I can only judge on how things turn out, and for the most part Shepherd has overseen a period of relative waste and failure considering the vast riches the club generates these days (something I am happy to applaud the board for btw). If the club has no money and we are honest about it then I would support the board being frugal, but don't expect me to forget why we might have suddenly found ourselves in that trouble. If you spent less time shoving people into stereotypical little boxes and accept that most of these arguments are far less black and white than you try to make out, then we might get somewhere. But you prefer to have us all on opposite sides, and are yourself unprepared to listen. Shame.

Who? Not a single person has said they wouldn't take him on loan. All I see are people pointing out his goal record, which is not the be all and end all, but not a bad thing to highlight considering he is a striker and facts are thin on the ground. As for Lyon. Not that who they fancy means anything anyway, but as noted in response to the same point on the first page, they have instead invested in Baros.

He's 28 years old, he has only scored 40 goals in his entire career and has achieved absolutely nothing; i doubt he's a 'vast improvement' on Ameobi, nevermind the relatively impressive Sibierski. Because Le Sib has always been a goal machine? Not all striker score huge amounts of goals, when Bellamy was with us he was never really prolific but he offered a lot more to the team than goals. Not saying this lad is going to be the same but to write him off as a good player because he hasnt scored a shed load of goals is a bit blinkered! I bet Kevin Davies hasnt scored that many goals in his career but he is a key player for Bolton. Nobody is writing him off ffs, they are simply highlighting/dissapointed by the fact that he does not have a great goal scoring record. A trait we are desparate for in the striking department. And what loan striker did we believe would ever have a "great" goalscoring record? You what? I haven't the faintest fannying clue 'what loan striker did we believe would ever have a "great" goalscoring record', but that doesn't prevent people hoping we might add a goal scorer to our ranks. You did grasp the point that nobody can argue with this as a loan deal, nobody is writing him off, nobody is having a go at his love of Jazz, and that people pointing out facts (that he averages 1 goal in 5 in the French league) if anything lessens the chance that idiots jump on him if he doesn't set the world on fire.

He's 28 years old, he has only scored 40 goals in his entire career and has achieved absolutely nothing; i doubt he's a 'vast improvement' on Ameobi, nevermind the relatively impressive Sibierski. Because Le Sib has always been a goal machine? Not all striker score huge amounts of goals, when Bellamy was with us he was never really prolific but he offered a lot more to the team than goals. Not saying this lad is going to be the same but to write him off as a good player because he hasnt scored a shed load of goals is a bit blinkered! I bet Kevin Davies hasnt scored that many goals in his career but he is a key player for Bolton. Nobody is writing him off ffs, they are simply highlighting/dissapointed by the fact that he does not have a great goal scoring record. A trait we are desparate for in the striking department.

Ouch, that's cutting.

If it is a loan deal with no strings attached, then absolutely. Goes without saying. Agreed! If we have Martins, Dyer, Le Sib, Piquionne/Babel plus Owen and Shola back in 2-3 months time plus. Duff, and Milner can play up top too if desperate, that'll do for me for now! Right now lets get a top bloody LB in more importantly! Hear, hear!

Hibernian Insurance.... pretty gooood.

Like a new signing. I'm serious.

If it is a loan deal with no strings attached, then absolutely. Goes without saying.

Not what you would call prolific is he? 1 in 5 for a striker is a little underwhelming, yes.